THIS. This

THIS. this

Holds casual Dr who fans by the shoulders. Hey did you know that the doctor isn’t a usually a good person with other people’s interests at heart? Did you know that? Did you know they do terrible things for that they believe to be the greater good all the time? That they aren’t a good person?????

Consider, the Temple-Noble family 14 included in quarantine. Donna and 14 are losing their minds but then wait! The TARDIS is inside. They can travel without breaking restrictions. Donna mostly wants to go shopping so they figure hey mostly just time works and 14 picks London, 2004 at random only for it to immediately go horribly wrong cause the girl working the counter of the shop Donna picked is none other than Rose Tyler. Awkwardness ensues.

YES EXACTLY.

the tragedy of deca group is one of the most uncovered topic in dw imo, and yet it remains as one of the most depressive ones

I think one the things about liking the deca and the academy era as a whole is the tragedy of knowing it doesn’t last, you find out it doesn’t last before you know it exists

so let's look actually realistically at thoschei ship

and in realistically I mean looking with all the EU stuff that happend between them, because yeah that's basically the main conflict stuff

be careful there's a lot of words that I wrote without thinking twice lmao

why thoschei isn't canon yet?

so from the doctor's point of view I think the main reason is that he just cannot morally accept master as the way he is, not only due to his cunning nature which just cannot flow in the same stream with him, but also due to doctors morality codex which is fully conflicting with masters

and what hurts me even more is that it's fully doctors fault. which doctor also feels guilty of, but he never acknowledges it nor wants to because welp, doctor is a coward and that's it. he's afraid that it will eventually turn him into something else than doctor - doctor is supposed to save others, not running around with local universal criminal with weird principles

when we look from the master's point of view it's very different. master is just STUCK with doctor. he doesn't have anyone to kneel on, just no one who would be actually interested in him and no one who would give him admiration and understanding. it's so fucking horrible to be honest.

only doctor was able to do so, they had similar paths, and master was fully trusting him, and then doctor did a lot of things which resulted in betrayal. and master just didn't turn evil. hot take: master NEVER was evil and NEVER will be evil. It depends on from which eyes we're looking for.

if we're looking from the doctor point of view yeah, master is evil thats it. he's immoral and evil.

evil and good is a question of perspective.

so master did not turn evil for EVERYONE alright, he was just evil towards the doctor because of betrayal, and if you think about it - everything what was master doing eventually led to doctor

was it intentional? yeah, at the beginning of it

but with time that line just got blurred and he's doing everything instinctively.

and when there's no doctor around for thousand or so years, master isn't so «evil» anymore. he's just... koschei.

so with this I can say that the identity of master was created by doctor himself. there's SO MUCH more to it that I could write a fucking essay thirty pages long just describing all the shit they caused to eachother lifes (please god just let them reduce to atoms I swear-)

so for the thoschei to be canon(i mean healthy and almost fully established) we need a doctor who's not considering himself a doctor anymore.

luckily we have one! it's 14th :DDD

and we need a master who's not in need anymore to get admiration and awe from doctor using rage and a lot of killing in process involved

which could be anyone if doctor is able to redeem himself in eyes of master, redeem all this betrayal, give up his title

and then master will not have to run and kill everyone on sight because well... doctor-not-doctor-but-a-friend-from-distant-past is here. he's available and free™

and then they'll be able to start again from almost scratch

but through giving up themselves and building up again together.

so the main point of all this shit: saxteen is canon XDDDD

but actually I'm going to explore this deep further later in my fic for sure.

I wonder if there's any long angsty academy fics with thoschei-centred? like the whole thing from their first meet to the final fight between them so after you read it all you just get a deep depressed feeling like a void was placed inside of you because you just know what happend to them after all of these academy years????? slowburn friends to lovers to enemies with some silly adventures and then /snaps fingers/ it's angst and depression

please im begging slap me with some links of this

cause you know what happens to a fanfiction writer when they can't find the thing they want to read.

oh shit i might actually write it.

YESSS THIS HELPED A LOT THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! :DDDDD

helloooo

is there any sort of guide to the all lore of the deca group?

I am REALLY loving it but I dunno where do I gather l o r e info for writing and stuff

is there some basic fanons I should know?? what audios I should listen to??

all I did was reading wiki pages but I suppose they don't have enough details

so please I need someone to guide me before I start writing long angsty fic based on my guesses aidhaodnakdnkqapdiiqjsnfn