Odysseus Will SayI Spoke With Crafty Words Then Just Straight Up Lie

Odysseus will say “I spoke with crafty words” then just straight up lie

If we actually look what the myth/city-founder versions where Astyanax survives says, it certainly isn't "and he and Askanios, or he and his brother (sometimes he has a brother... or two!) then turned on Greece and murdered them all."

Like.

Look at me. Look me in the Tumblr.

Odysseus' argument in several versions of myth or tragedy, whether he does the killing himself or not, that allowing Astyanax in specific to survive will turn into him turning on the sacking soldiers and their families when he grows up is. not. true.

It doesn't happen!

All that happens, at the very most, is Astyanax/Skamandrios and Oxynios (as the other son is called) displacing Aeneas and/or Askanios, who in these versions haven't left the Troad yet. (Because these are city-founder myths, but nonetheless.)

The Achaeans are so fucking afraid of something that doesn't even happen in the versions where Astyanax has been hidden elsewhere/survives the sack (and no thanks to Odysseus for any such survival, guys).

from J.S. Clay, Homer's Trojan Theater

"The Aeneid was a fanfiction" daughter or terrible greek myth retelling son (you are not allowed to kill yourself)

#cute <3 Odysseus

tiny powerful creature

#If peris has no haters I AM DEAD

just remembered there are actually people who blame menelaus for the war. uhhuh its like "menelaus shouldnt have let himself get cucked" let me challenge you. maybe agamemnon should have just not sacrificed his daughter!!! maybe achilles should have let patroclus' death go!!! maybe odysseus should have drowned himself before 700 men died otw home! are you fucking insane!