Hunter Is A Grimwalker Theory

Hunter is a Grimwalker theory

During the episode eclipse lake, we got a glimps from a page of a book that is used for making clones. I know, a lot of people already have mentioned about Hunter possibly being a Grimwalker and thus a clone. But I wanna go deeper into it and share my thoughts with all the evidence I could find that supports Hunter being a Grimwalker.

The similarities between Hunter and the drawings in the book:

Same eye color:

Same nose:

The ingredients from the book:

Galdorstone (heart & power): for the heart and possibly other organs

Palistrom wood (keratin): keratin is a type of protein that makes up your hair, skin, and nails etc…

Stonesleeper lungs: for the lungs

Selkidomus scales: this ingredient from the book probably causes the clone to assume a human form. Selkies are mythical seal like creatures that assumes a human form when on land. You can’t have a clone without a body!

Bones of ortet: For the bones in the body. Also the definition of ortet is: the original plant of which the members of the clone have descended.

The conversation between Belos and Hunter:

“Everyone has a use, Hunter. Kikimora has her intricate little plans, the scouts carry out orders and you… Well the Titan has big plans for you and it would be such a hassle to find a replacement.”

“Replacement”? This could be a nod to Hunter being a clone. This also makes me wonder, did Belos create Hunter? Belos is the one who has the book, so it’s very likely that he created Hunter.

If that’s the case, why did Belos create him though? The “Titan has big plans for you” line makes me think that Belos created a clone like Hunter to use it for the day of Unity.

Hunter seems to play an important part in it. Belos worrying about Hunter getting hurt or dying is not out of love, but because he needs him alive and well when the day of Unity arrives.

If Hunter dies or gets hurt, Belos won’t be able to replace Hunter by creating a new clone that he could use for the day of unity. It would indeed be a such a hassle, especially if the day of unity is coming near. You still have to gather the ingredients to create a clone in the first place and raise said clone into adulthood. It would take too much time..

I’m genuine worried what Belos’s plans with Hunter are for the day of unity.

Hunter’s origin:

If Hunters being a clone does turn out to be true, clones actually don’t have families or parents. Clones probably don’t have magic either, that’s why Hunter isn’t able to do magic.

Remember in “Hunting Palismen” when Hunter told Luz that he came from a bloodline of powerless witches, and that Belos found him and took him in? Or Belos telling Hunter about their family being gone because of wild magic and Hunter calling Belos his uncle? This must all have been lies. Lies that Belos told Hunter.

These lies probably are actually a way to keep Hunter in line and from finding out about him being a clone. Like how Mother Gothel did with Rapunzel in the Disney movie “Tangled”.

Phew, these were all the hints about Hunter being a Grimwalker I could think of or find. I hope I didn’t miss anything? If so, I would love to know. I also would love to read your thoughts on this theory. 🙂

Eda’s new Harpy look reminded me of THIS

This drawing is so good that I’ve immediately remembered it

The “knock, knock, knockin’ on Hooty's door” is coming soon and Hooty will try to help everyone. As we've already seen in Eda's requiem, when he was desperately trying to be emotional support for King. 

Maybe because Lilith started to like him after he helped her get the firebee hunny.

Also I'm worried that it's not gonna go well. What if Hooty... makes things worse???

No one looks happy here except Hooty. Eda’s curse is showing, something that might happen when she’s stressed and Luz drops the egho mouse. That’s gives of a bad vibe to me. Unwanted help can be pretty bad sometimes.

Other than that I'm excited! The first Hooty-centric ep! Although I'm not sure how much Hooty-centric this ep is because it's more about him helping everyone else, but at least it's about Hooty doing something! Taking the initiative! This will be very interesting

Papyton is very important and good because it prevents MTT from buying a stupid fucking mansion after he becomes famous and rich on the surface. No way is Papyrus gonna live in a place like that, no sir! Though actually, MTT would have a ridiculous mansion before they decide to live together, at least he'll sell it after. Imagine MTT in an old Jeffrey Star mansion with tufted, hot pink walls lol

I already like her

First time drawing G-lo. For this more detailed drawing I made her eyes and teeth yellow so that I could draw white reflections in them, but it looks to me that in her actual design she also has yellow eyes and teeth, though not as dark.   

Why is this the first time I heard about Hooty’s hidden dialog?! OMG

PART 1 of 6 of the Owl Deity Hooty Theory

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[OWL DEITY HOOTY THEORY MASTERPOST] (in development)

(TLDR at bottom of post)

Over several long months of research and analysis, I have been following an utterly fascinating thread of potential misdirection and subtle details throughout The Owl House, and today, I would like to start weaving together of what I believe could become one of the biggest and most cleverly disguised twists in the entire show.

To begin, let’s take a look at the B plot of Understanding Willow:

On first glance, it’s an ultimately inconsequential sidestory with the sole purpose of justifying an excuse to keep Luz and Amity in Willow’s mind, as well as providing some well-needed room to breathe and release tension after the veryemotionally charged confrontation with Inner Willow. After half an episode of Eda and King outdoing the other in ridiculous ways to win Gus’ vote and Gus running off in frustration at the end of the episode from Hooty’s inane rambling, it’s easy to laugh off Gus’ pick and assume that nothing/of value was said when he closed the door for the interview.

However, if one pays close attention to that very scene, Hooty actually canstill be heard (if faintly) underneath Eda and King’s grumbling, interestingly talking about how “It all started with a hunt. Blood red skies. That’s right, I was created-.”

Now, while it may seem silly to focus on dialogue from Hooty of all characters, this A) tells us that there was an event in the past involving blood red skies and a hunt of some kind, B) that Hooty had been created close to said event, and C) implies that what he knows but can’t tell as a story worth a damn is EXTREMELY important to be included and be hidden in such a manner.

For comparison, the only other instance of dialogue being tucked away in the background in the entire show is in Wing It Like Witches:

During the lecture at the beginning of the episode, the history teacher openswith lore on Belos appointing a head witch to each coven over 50 years ago, immediately cluing in the audience to try and decipher the rest of the lecture as it moves to the background. Adding to this is how the musical sting when Luz shows off her movie obscures what he says even further, making it even more of a intriguing puzzle that the creators clearly intended for viewers to pick up on and attempt to solve.

In contrast, the hidden dialogue of Hooty’s interview is much shorter and not as hard to decipher as the teacher’s history lesson, but at the same time, there are few to no indicators whatsoever in that scene to clue in the audience to even check for something like that. It comes at the end of an episode where most viewers would have been paradoxically tired out and driven abuzz by the revelations of Amity and Willow’s relationship, doesn’t attempt to draw much attention to itself, and frames itself as a comedic subversion of audience expectations with neither the “greatest witch who ever lived” or the self-proclaimed king of demons being picked by Gus.

Instead, he picks someone that the show portrays constantly as an oblivious and gullible idiot after being described as a “state of the art defense system” at the very beginning of the series. Someone who, despite it being played for laughs, is scarily capable of casually subduing Lilith offscreen one episode and then beating her and an entire squad of Emperor’s Coven members without even the slightest change in personality or temperament.

Someone who, due to being the Owl House itself, could be considered the titular character of the entire show, yet is taken for granted by those who inhabit him and barely gets any respect from even the cutely patronized King - including when Hooty could be interpreted as having potentially been full on DEAD for a time given the use of extremely cartoony X eyes and a lack of vital signs in The Intruder.

And someone who Eda at best tolerates and at worst abandons in personal interactions and only occasionally acknowledges him when he’s actually doing his job. Yet at the same time is so implicitly trusted beyondprotecting her home to the point where - when up against the closest person Eda has to an equal outside of likely Belos - the only actually recognizable spells Eda used in combat were 1) stereotypical energy blasts, 2) a single shield spell in Covention, and 3) a noticeably large reliance on imitations of Hooty above any other spells she could have decided to use instead.

In short, the show repeatedly tells us he is just an idiotic gag character through and through, but at the same time demonstrates he has immense power through both onscreen and offscreen demonstrations, implicitly tells us his importance ahead of time through Eda’s imitations in actually serious situations, and treats his interview and origin story as - if not even more- important to keep secret than a long lore dump about how Belos’ reign works.

After all, there being only two instances of hidden background dialogue in the entire season is already intriguing on its own, but for one to get plenty of clues to draw in people’s attention and for the other to be treated as just another gag about a “mere comic relief character” - aka a good way to draw away attention and lower one’s guard - heavily suggests a far deeper significance buried under layers of misdirection, comedy, and conditioned audience expectations.

I mean, when Eda bragged about being “a bad girl living in a secret fortress,” Hooty followed with a remark about how “I’m the secret.” While that line may sound like Hooty simply being confused as part of a one-off on the surface, it’s an odd dialogue choice for the writers to pick when you think about all the other reminders of his nature as the house itself throughout the season. With the precedent these moments set, it would have been much more appropriate for him to latch onto the “fortress” side of “secret fortress” AND it would have been just as equally funny of a joke about his awareness skills, but instead, Hooty broke away from the established trend to say something that would make people suspicious were it to come from anyone else.

In a way, this reminds me much of the many subtle bits of foreshadowing strewn across the show, like Luz unknowingly describing Amity in Witches Before Wizards and Eda burning a hole through Luz’s coven type quiz that coincidentally selected the same track she had taken at Hexside as “a punky potionist.” At the time of airing, these initially seemed like one-off jokes, but eventually came back in full force several episodes later with Amity’s hidden sensitive feelings and love for the Azura books becoming clear in Lost in Language, and the reveal of Eda’s school track in Something Ventured, Someone Framed with her school misdemeanor pictures.

That said, compared to these individual bits of minor foreshadowing, the jokes about Hooty in Understanding Willow appear to simply be the most obvious pieces in a giant puzzle, implicitly and outright telling attentive viewers that there’s a major mystery to be uncovered here.

In fact, I feel bold enough to say that we could be looking at a twist on a similar scale to that of the Pink Diamond/Rose Quartz and Stanford Pines twists in Steven Universe and Gravity Falls respectively, what with this particular puzzle piece coming from how Gus wanted to make THE greatest interview of all time, and how he was looking for someone who was “interesting, accomplished, AND noteworthy:”

Note the emphasis on the ‘and’ here, as Gus had made a big deal that “people aren’t meantto be all those things” at the beginning of the episode, so as a result, stripping away all the comedic framing of his subplot leaves the intriguing implication that whoever - and, perhaps, what- Hooty is, they really are the most interesting, accomplished, AND noteworthy person out of everyone.

I could go further and talk about why I suspect the mystery surrounding King’s origins, whether true or not, is partially meant to misdirect us from paying attention to Hooty, or how the TOH crew’s could be disguising legitimate clues to his nature among made up and highly meme-able joke answers in order to proliferate said concepts throughout the fandom - thus letting us do all the dirty work of getting ourselves used to the ideas and used to dismissing them at the same time - but to bring things to a close for now, I’d like to leave you all with a question that I’ll start answering next time:

What does it mean when both the most powerful and notorious witch on the Boiling Isles and the possible actual king of demons/the Titan itself/something don’t match up to a house? And what do you think it is that makes him so special to warrant such misdirection?

TLDR: Between Eda’s golem spells, the show stressing his nature as the titular house, his implicit strength, and the odd dialogue and structure of Understanding Willow‘s subplot in relation to him, I believe I have good reason to suspect the show has been giving us many hints towards Hooty being much, much more important than it would like us to currently believe or even joke about. Particularly, through clever uses of comedy to establish and enforce a strong audience bias against looking closely at him or unironically taking him seriously, and to potentially plant the seeds for something I will start exploring in Part 2.