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8th house short notes

This is not my work. I'm pasting notes that I made from other websites: vedicastrologycenter.net, theartofvedicastrology.com, barbarapijan

Turnarounds in life

Deep emotions and turmoil

Detachment from success or materialism

Unearned wealth, legacy, inheritance

Mental anguish, hopelessness, despair

Transformation through difficulties

Hidden side of life

Cavity or flaw

Genitals create life. Genital are also vulnerability

Freedom from influence of other people

Maturity, wisdom, insight

Deceit, lying, treachery, murder, dark parts

Illusions of 7th house are shattered

Remaining childish will be costly

Illusions of partnership wear off

From avoidance, denial and efforts to control our fears to the emotional chaos, mistakes and obsessions we have over them to a measured and realistic exploration that leads to penetratimg wisdom and insight

8th house consequences are painful

Make peace with the way things are

Do not remain immature and childish

The painful realities of life must be made peace with

Realism and maturity

The intense mutual needs of the seventh house interactions awaken our deepest fears, vulnerabilities and stresses of the eighth house. Faced with such fear and vulnerability, makes us question and hesitate before getting involved with others (seventh house). This hesitation forces us to be more careful in battle and more willing to serve rather than win (seventh house)

Those who are inexperienced with the ways of human nature may have shocks when the hidden information of 8th house is discovered

Not as in work or maintaining formal relationships like have social media or group of friends like i read how humans are social creature and cant survive on their own ?

Socializing:

If you don't like being social, then there would be reasons to explore. Do you feel like you're not yourself when you're with others? Or maybe you feel like you want to know who you are before you socialize? Or maybe socializing makes you feel a lot of emotions and confusions? Or maybe socializing is too stimulating and fast paced for you?

Maybe you can take a man out of society but cannot take out society out of him. Society is very much absorbed by us, like we are sponges and absorb the social norms, language, culture, habits, practices. It makes life predictable.

Maybe without socializing you cannot self introspect because others are like a mirror to you and your reflection in them  helps you understand yourself.

Maybe sometimes you'll like socializing and other times hate it. Dr. Carl G Jung once said that "there is no such thing as a pure introvert or extrovert. Such a person would be in the lunatic asylum." Prof Yuval N Harari said that we live in a shared imagination. Humans are the only ones who live a double life, an objective and a subjective life. A shared imagination. And this imagination is shared by many people. That's how we understand language and ideas. If I say "marriage", you can understand what it means because you and I share the social meaning, idea and imagination of marriage.

I cannot answer your question because I don't know the answer. Whatever someone says won't make sense unless the answer comes from inside.

I have similar questions as yours: Why do I want to talk to someone else? Who is it that I'm talking to? Why do I have the urge to tell someone my thoughts? What will I feel after I speak? What kind of reactions do I want from someone? What if that someone reacts differently opposite to my expectations? Etc.

Survival:

I think we cannot survive on our own. It started the moment we were born, someone else was taking care of us. Physical needs are dependent on others.

Think, think, think...

What does it mean to transform?

'Total destruction is the only possible condition for total rebirth' - Barbara Pijan's website

Transformation does not only mean to change the negative parts/habits/traits/qualities of your past. It does not mean to changing the negative things but keeping the positive things like the social connections you used to have, the interests and activities you used to have or the ideologies you lived about. You cannot keep some parts of your past while changing the other parts.

Transformation means to change everything, negative or positive. The positive things do not exist in a vacuum, they are tied to the negative things of your life. So it does not make sense to change the negative things but keep the positive as it is because ultimately you will regress to the negative parts again. In the following diagram, the old you had certain positive and negative qualities, that was your personality. Since it is the old you, you were probably unaware and unconscious of these qualities.

There is the new you (I) which has changed the negative qualities but keeps the positive qualities of the old life. While new you (II) changes both the negative and positive qualities of the old life. The difference in new you (I) and (II) is that the new you (II) is total transformation of your old self, there is little possibility that you will regress to the old negative patterns, behaviours or beliefs.

Changing the positive qualities of the past can be much more difficult than changing the negative ones. The positive qualities are shaped by society, culture, language and of course destiny. So changing the positive qualities which did not pose any harm in the past will be quite difficult, it's like rebuilding yourself from scratch, usually going against the socially dominant behaviours, especially since your families, friends, external identities are pretty much the same as they were before.

What does it mean to change?

I will clarify that by 'change' I do not mean something substantial. I mean to become aware, conscious and intentional about the intentions, motives, thought processes and emotions that drive your behaviour and speech. For example, if you were behaving like a pathological narcissist in your past, the changed version of you will be someone who is aware of their tendencies and patterns, has learned to live by ethics, and learns to use the combination of words that are least violative or behaves in a way that you are aware of your motivations and still try to do it in a decent way.

How to transform completely then?

I don't know. I am figuring out my own personality, but I will give a hint: "To get distant from the things that you used to be close to in the past".

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