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What Is That? ITS A SHITPOST MY DUDES!

What Is That? ITS A SHITPOST MY DUDES!
What Is That? ITS A SHITPOST MY DUDES!

What is that? ITS A SHITPOST MY DUDES!

I found funny illustration with BIG WOMAN SHE IS GOOOORGEOUS, and this picture has vibe like.... Gentle surgery? Yeah, its gentle surgery.

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i got nothing but happy tf2 day (its 11pm as i post this)

oh my god i think your banner has my old shitty spymed sfm render in it šŸ˜­šŸ˜­

I MIGHT HAVE THE ORIGINAL SOMEWHERE

WAIT REALLY??? šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­

what if i died on the spot

This post is specifically for me, to show all of you how clearly in love Spy is with Medic in Hoovytubeā€™s Magnificent Nine Series

Please no one show Hoovytube this I fear they will stop making Spy clearly gay like I beg of you itā€™s the only reason I wake up in the morning pLEASE

This Post Is Specifically For Me, To Show All Of You How Clearly In Love Spy Is With Medic In Hoovytubes
This Post Is Specifically For Me, To Show All Of You How Clearly In Love Spy Is With Medic In Hoovytubes

These new scenes dropped, and yes theyā€™re clearly quite gay looking

However, consider how often Spy fucking stares at Medic in ā€œCall E For Medicā€

This Post Is Specifically For Me, To Show All Of You How Clearly In Love Spy Is With Medic In Hoovytubes
This Post Is Specifically For Me, To Show All Of You How Clearly In Love Spy Is With Medic In Hoovytubes
This Post Is Specifically For Me, To Show All Of You How Clearly In Love Spy Is With Medic In Hoovytubes

LIKE SPY WHY ARE YOU STARING SO HARD AT HIM WHAT ARE LOOKING FOR HM???

And the fact he checked on Medic after the dispenser was brought out Iā€™m

This Post Is Specifically For Me, To Show All Of You How Clearly In Love Spy Is With Medic In Hoovytubes

LOOK AT THIS SHOT TOO IM OBSESSED

This Post Is Specifically For Me, To Show All Of You How Clearly In Love Spy Is With Medic In Hoovytubes

SPYS HAT WITH MEDICS PIPE???? DUUDDEE I CANTTT

Theyā€™re always together, side by side

In the first part, Medicā€™s Eight, Spy saw how upset Medic was and agreed to help him!! When medic was at his lowest point, trying to steal from Spy like

This Post Is Specifically For Me, To Show All Of You How Clearly In Love Spy Is With Medic In Hoovytubes

Not to mention, Spy said ā€œwe vanishā€ HE DIDNā€™T SAY JUST MEDIC HE SAID WE VANISH AS IN WE LEAVE TOGETHER

Also, Medic just wanted to disappear to show his team heā€™s important. However, Spy literally faked both of their deaths. He didnā€™t have to, but he did. Spy also didnā€™t need to DIE WITH MEDIC BUT HE DID!!

Spy listens to Medicā€™s complaints, and is sticking his neck out for Medic for someā€¦ unexplained reason.. man I wonder what it isā€” Because, Spy has no way to benefit from this!! Heā€™s doing this all for Medic!!

This Post Is Specifically For Me, To Show All Of You How Clearly In Love Spy Is With Medic In Hoovytubes

THE THUMBNAIL LITERALLY HAS BISEXUAL LIGHTING ON THEM IM

Still donā€™t believe me? The creator hearted my comment themselves. Checkmate.

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sorry if this is random but!!! iā€™m interested about your repost on the gentle surgery post, about everything basically

i agree that magnificent nineā€™s plot is a bit all over the place (especially after the green team episode), which is why iā€™m really only sticking around for the medicspy dynamic. though i am looking forward to seeing how ht will close off the series

and iā€™d love to see the rant, not only because i just really want to see someone talk about it, but iā€™d like to see what you think!

Ok so! The reason I asked is because I've been trying to find a way to express my thoughts on the Mag Nine without sounding rude or a hater. I want to be able to genuinely critic the series without coming across as a "attacking the creator" or something dumb like that.

The Magnificent Nine is why I started shipping Gentle Surgery in the first place! I never thought about Medic and Spys dynamic before this!

And as someone who is relevantly new to the tf2 fandom (about a year) and has not played the game I'm more familiar with the comics and fan content on tumblr.

So it's kinda alien for me to see fan content that's not inherently lgbtq or at-least , not made by a queer creator.

So (from what I know) of Hoovytube is that he is writing a tf2 story from a non queer perspective. Which while there is nothing wrong with that- I can enjoy a story without obvious lgbtq themes or characters (I've been doing this for years) it's just a completely different side of the fandom that I never really seen that was here since the beginning.

I actually was heavily invested in the series and was intrigued by the premise. When I first found the series, the last episode was Call E for Medic! And the next one (Meet the tenth class) was premiering within the same month.

I believe my initial understanding of the premise was that Medic was feeling undervalued by his team so he decides to see how they preform without him. And Spy decided to help as well. Then from there things escalated from there.

Then we get the next episodes and now we are introduced to the Hustler who is a really fun concept for an antagonist! He's a balance between all of the classes, steals their weapons to overpower them and take their resources! He's the one merc who actually acts very serious (kinda like an Izzy Hands/ only human in a muppet movie way). He feels like he could be like that one villain who thinks he's the only sane person in the room and is very manipulative. Like he's always playing devils advocate.

Then we get the plot point of Medic and Spy deciding to "screw it" and run away. To me the run away plot is an inherently queer/ gay coded plot line so I interpreted as such. I thought that would be a fun way to continue the story and I was hyped.

I was also thinking:

-How would the Red Team react? Will they resent Spy and Medic for leaving/ faking their deaths?

-Where are Spy and Medic gonna go now if they do run away? What will they do now? How far are they are going to go before they regret their decision?

-I had this whole narrative building in my head of where the series was going:

-Spy and Medic run away and through their time alone together they learn (after a while) how they both still care about the members of Red Team. They then regret what happens and decide that they can't just leave their team to face the Hustler alone.

-We'd also get more of the Blu and Reds pov as they were both scammed by the Hustler seeing how they cope with that loss and maybe even consider working together to take down the Hustler only for their egos to get in the way. (You know because the Blu teams Engi being another villain in this series and how he parallels Medic and his need of feeling appreciated but is going about it way worse by purposely sabotaging his team)

-then Medic and Spy return but find that the Red Team hasn't fully forgiven them for leaving. I felt like we'd get this big confrontational moment between them before the climax. Especially with Sniper being the only support class left, I can see him being the most mad/ feeling betrayed.

-Then with the climax the Hustler is here to fight again but with now both Spy and Medic are they able to stop him. I was picturing something like: The Hustler thinks he's won and is about to relish his victory only to get stabbed by- guess what?- An Uberized Spy! That's Right An Uber Spy! And if that fails Bonesaw!

-Then the team comes together once more and after celebrating Medic has the courage to talk about why this all happened and they reconcile.

Then the actual episodes released:

-I was heavily disappointed and not because of my own expectations but because of the way that the writing has declined

I don't mind when a story goes in a different direction, normally that can actually improve the story by having new information revealed making you think about it in a different way. Kinda like how in Ace Attorney you are lead to think that murder happened this way only to find another clue making you think that your client might actually be the murder.

However, the direction that Hoovy takes is very strange and doesn't make sense.

Going in I thought this was solely a Medic Character Study (based on how the player feels when playing him) and him dealing with the consequences of leaving the team.

However there is another plot that's been (apparently) building up towards the beginning:

That plot is the other teams beyond Red and Blu that are also fighting. Yes in HTs version of TF2 there is also a Brown, Yellow and Green Team. Early on, episodes would cut to small backstory scene with these other teams. I never really cared about the other teams nor understood their relevance to the plot beyond connecting to the Hustlers backstory. They were comedic relief at best.

So you could see my confusion when they suddenly became relevant with Green Team kid napping/ keeping Medic and Spy at gun point .That's right the moment we are about to follow up on the run away plot they get caught instead. And do to the way the episode is paced it makes it seem like Medic and Spy instantly regret their actions and want to turn around to help Red team. That happened way to fast. It made feel like something was missing. What happened in Medic or Spys mind that made them want to go back? It felt as though only 2 minutes ago they were talking about how much they hated Red team and now they are just going back? All this build up in between episodes and they just turn around?

Then what was the point of that! Why have Green Team or those other characters if they were immediately going back for Red?!

The episode seemed to be so much faster and shorter too. I feel that some of the older episodes allow for more character moments and time to breathe. While in the more recent episodes seem like they are being rushed and skipping over key character moments for the sake of getting to the next plot point.

In the last couple of episodes it's been feeling more focused on the politics and war of the other teams and Less on Medic if it weren't for 2 moments in them (which are brief). Like when Medic finally reunited with Heavy and the rest of the team it feels like they forgive him too easily. I get that they are desperate for any help/ good news but I think it'd be more realistic for some of the other Mercs to be mad at Medic and Spy but no it's completely skipped over and they act like they never left. They also only acknowledge that Medic was gone no one mentioned missing Spy or glad that he's back too.

It makes it feel like we are skipping over his character arc to make room for the climax. I thought that since Medic and Spy being back would make it so the rest of the team had the courage to try fighting the Hustler but no... they are being told by the boss to summon Merasmus. Huh...

I don't hate the wizard it just doesn't feel thematic for him to be the one force they need to stop the Hustler. Unless it's a red herring and Medic will be the one to get the finale blow, then this is just anticlimactic.

With the those episodes, I become aware of how flawed this series has been so far. Even early on their was some weird jokes and choices that never really vibed with me. One choice that threw me off was the lack of lore characters like Administrator and Miss Pauling . It doesn't impact the story it's just you'd think a story involving the Mercs wanting to quit and run away it would get at least Admins attention.

One that is currently bothering me is that their is too many plot points and characters especially with the addition of the teams beyond Red and Blu. And what's worse is that because the other teams early on seem so irrelevant to the story that when they do around episode 7 it comes across unexpected or out of nowhere.

To Me Hoovy has all these ideas that are too ambitious for a tf2 fan series. He clearly wants to tell this grand epic narrative that evolves implementing Polish culture, History and 60s politics of that time period. He brings in all these other teams and characters to represent different political factions/ extremes of the time but it just doesn't work. He wants to make his version of TF2 where it is more historically accurate.

He tries to do this while adding a compelling character narrative. But it just doesn't work. None of those elements blend well together. It just makes for confusing plot points and weird tone shifts.

Hoovy seems like a dedicated and passionate person who made this series to get this story out there. He's been working on it since he was 14 (he's currently 20) and I respect for the fact that he's able to animate and get his ideas out there.

However, with the episodes not doing well on YouTube he felt the need to produce them faster. And with him getting closer to finishing the series, he's been taking less and less time to polish his writing leading to the poorer pacing. That to me is sad because he's putting views and numbers over the quality of episodes for the last few installments.

If Hoovy had focused only on Medic, Spy, Red Vs Blu Team and defeating Hustler, It would be way more of a coherent story.

I actually have more thoughts but I've felt like I've gone ontoo long. Can you tell I wanted to talk about this series for a while?


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