I Really Appreciate All The Effort You Put In Here! I Think You Definitely Hit More On What I Was Hoping

I really appreciate all the effort you put in here! I think you definitely hit more on what I was hoping on for clarity. Again, not invalidating those who identify as physical magical girls by saying this: I still believe that that kind transformation (whether instantaneous or over a longer period out of regular time) can be achieved through other means that what has been presented. This absolutely does not lessen the experiences these folks have had—I am just stating that there are many ways to get to a similar, if not the same place. (Not to mention that there are probably more methods out there that were not familiar with yet!) And of course if anyone else wants to speak to their experience, especially those who identify as physical magical girls, I would be interested to hear more!

Unfortunately I do not know much about Wattpad (I definitely missed that boat!) but I’ll see what I can do with looking around there too.

Again, I truly appreciate you reaching out and even apologizing—it was not necessary by any means but it is very sweet and, I think, indicative of the kind of people magical heroes are. I can totally understand how folks could feel defensive about this and while I can’t speak to the same exact experiences, I definitely know how it feels to be invalidated, especially by people you thought were trustworthy and understanding.

I genuinely hope that other folks, especially those who may have felt wronged in some way, can see this and take some comfort in it.

u said in ur post u didn't get a sincere answer, did u mean answer to what physical magical girls are? i can try explaining if you felt their explanation didn't help, if you're okay with that /genuine

Thank you for the message! ☆

Yes, I was referring to what it means when folks say that physical magical girls have been able to manifest transforming physically and what that actually entails besides the process of getting there (i.e. working with the Laws of Assumption and Attraction). If you feel like you have something to share along those lines, I think people would love to hear it. I know I’d certainly be interested!

While I did get some more background on the community from the subsequent posts, it didn’t really elucidate what I was originally asking about. I’m not sure how a genuine question got interpreted as a dig on anyone or their practice but if people saw it that way, I sincerely apologize. My only intention here is to document my processes and learn more about what others are doing.

Chaos magick and witchcraft can be distinct practices.

Traditional witchcraft has an established canon (or canons, if you factor in different folk traditions) and some practitioners of witchcraft are followers of Wicca, a religion.

While some chaotes fall victim to the trappings of dogma, whether that is through the exploration of certain paradigms or through literature penned by other chaotes, chaos magick is fundamentally non-dogmatic in that it emphasizes the importance of paradigm shifting.

Chaos magick is concerned purely in the essence of magia through technique. Chaotes can, and often do, implement tools and methodology of witchcraft or other paradigms to further our understanding of magia. While practitioners should be sympathetic to closed traditions and wary of insensitive appropriation, there is no ultimate truth and thus we are free to explore and experiment.

Eclectic witchcraft and chaos magick both embrace a variety of methods, but chaos magick can be dynamically dogmatic: chaotes can use belief as a tool and the dogma shifts with the paradigm. A while an eclectic practice may be syncretic, an amalgam of a bunch of practices without a common theory, chaos magick, and particularly paradigm shifting gives us a way use a variety of practices while keeping each distinct.

Furthermore, I would say that a practitioner of pop culture witchcraft is different from a chaote using pop culture magics. Someone who has a pop culture witchcraft practice probably uses a syncretic system to operate while a chaote could not.

Edited for clarity. Thank you to @niaskotl for the notes!

I can see that’s where a lot of the conversations have started in recent years, but I think asserting that this where folks need to remain does a disservice to those who have been working along these lines for many years and are seeking community as well as for those who are trying to improve upon their practice.

To say any approach is less than or less authentic than the other, I feel, is unnecessary gatekeeping. I’m a real magical kid, one that did not manifest that identity but was rather called to it from forces I cannot fully explain or comprehend and have worked to maintain that calling. Do I draw from media for inspiration? Sure! But I think everyone who feels compelled to work in this vein does. Whether that inspiration shows itself in a concept or scripting, in a pop culture-inspired magic practice, or something else entirely, I think there is space for all of us to work and share ideas. ☆

Can someone explain to me the actual difference between ‘physical’ and ‘astral’ magical heroes? Most of the folks that I have come across that label themselves ‘physical’ heroes don’t really seem to have a practice rooted in or working in this reality? They seem to still rely heavily on astral work and reality shifting.

For example, I suppose you can argue that my approach is ‘physical’ since I have an established magical practice utilizing tools and techniques that are tangible in the here and now (not that they couldn’t also be used out of the current timeline or on the astral) and I work to better our current and shared reality. I don’t really assert that the ‘physical’ or ‘astral’ distinction has to be made but if people feel that they need to use those labels, I think the community has to do a better job explaining the difference in approaches.

Can someone explain to me the actual difference between ‘physical’ and ‘astral’ magical heroes? Most of the folks that I have come across that label themselves ‘physical’ heroes don’t really seem to have a practice rooted in or working in this reality? They seem to still rely heavily on astral work and reality shifting.

For example, I suppose you can argue that my approach is ‘physical’ since I have an established magical practice utilizing tools and techniques that are tangible in the here and now (not that they couldn’t also be used out of the current timeline or on the astral) and I work to better our current and shared reality. I don’t really assert that the ‘physical’ or ‘astral’ distinction has to be made but if people feel that they need to use those labels, I think the community has to do a better job explaining the difference in approaches.