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I'll never get how people call themselves fans while still believing everything they do is scripted like 🤔 We get it y'all hate shippers but throwing the members under the bus is just crazyyy. The best thing I've ever done for myself as an Army and Non shipper, is to fully accept that jikook has an unusual bond. Bad?? No. Romantic?? Idk. Platonic?? Idk. They have something not a lot of male friendships have, and that's okay. They make people uncomfortable, not because they're “real” or “not real”, but because they defy( if that's the right word) what the society sees as friendships between men. I never knew accepting jikook's strange relationship as it is is an abomination in this fandom. I've seen people shunning me for having a jikook pfp and calling me a shipper, I've been shunned for saying Taekook just to save myself the trouble of writing long ahh “Taehyung and Jungkook”... Although that's not the point... Thing is, I'm not delusional enough to be fantasizing about the positions these men be effing one another in, nor taking valuable time out of my day to make crazy ahh fanarts. But neither am I so blinded by the hate for shippers that I completely go out of my way to call their relationship a script as if they were robots. That's just disrespectful... And trying to make shippers cry at the expense of jikook's relationship is just another level of stupidity... I love Jikook, I love BTS. I want their friendship, I want to be as close to another person as jikook is. So close that people would even question the status of our relationship... If they're just friends, I want that friendship... And if they're lovers, I want that for myself... If it's both, I want that. Yes, I would never make them puppets to fulfill all my failed relationship through them, but I want what they have. And it is what it is. I hate it when shippers go to the point of forgetting that jikook are real people, and they have lives out of their relationship with one another, but I also hate it when people call every jikook interaction fan service... !!!

many thanks to the chokehold that polaroids had on park jimin :)

When we talk about photography and who is the photographer of the group, our minds immediately hone in on jk because ofc, we have to put some respect on the founder of gcf's name.

Before gcf though, there was #슈가의_시선 (Suga's sight). This is a link to some of the photos that Yoongi used to post on twitter under the hashtag.

However, there's one person who simply doesn't get enough credit for his prowess with a camera.

^^ all those polaroids being from his personal collection

From 2017-18, jimin was a polaroid pictures connoisseur. Tears are being shed as I type this out but, when jm used to be really active on social media (😭) he'd bless us with the occasional photo dump here and there.

Speaking of, let's zoom in on that photo sitting right off-centre in that last little photo dump!

I wish I was joking when I say that this photo changed the trajectory of my life forever.

No, cause whose parents are these?? Who are these 90s high school sweethearts?

(they're actually my parents uwu)

Anyways. I've duped you all and this whole post thus far has just been a way for me to segway into something else I'd like to discuss:

Run BTS ep. 52 - BTS ESCAPE (aka. chaos ensues when you stick the tannies into an escape room)

Yes, the revolutionary polaroid was taken during the filming of this episode. This episode also shed some light onto the scam artist that is Jeon Jungkook.

So, the episode starts with seokjin and jimin being named team leaders (because they had prior experience doing escape rooms).

Both would randomly pick an escape room theme for their respective teams:

Jm picks 'Korean dry sauna'.

Someone makes his stance on jm's selection pretty clear from the get go:

(keep this in mind cause we're about to discuss the clownery that goes down later)

So they pick their teams and lo and behold, Mr 'I hate dry saunas' ends up in team 'Korean dry sauna'.

The question is, does jk think this is all an unfortunate turn of fate? Or, is jk fate himself?🤨

While everyone is just holding their sheets of paper, jk is attempting to camouflage with the wall while he subtly sneaks a peak.

It's almost as if the gags write themselves cause even glimpsing at 1/4 of the paper would've allowed them to see the name of the team (jungkook honey plssss)

Then #dry_sauna_hater, knowing he doesn't have the 'dry sauna' theme card, swaps with Tae.

#that moment when you get the escape room theme you didn't want #cause you cheated your way into getting it

Result of said cheating though: 🥰

This isn't even the first instance of jk trying to will a team with jm into existence

here he is not letting Mini Moni breathe

.....again:

them leaving out tae even when white makes up majority of the flag😭

here he is being the great wall of jungkook:

the foreshadowing by focusing on him during this scene😭

rlly left jm #bamboozled

Jungkook, I get you though. I rlly do.

anyways, im ending this post with my most favourite picture ever! bye!

Idk who came up with ‘trashkooker’ but ITS SO FUNNY😭😭😭

yes!!

People say that JK benefits a lot from being the center of major ships in the fandom and I don't disagree that he benefits a little but I do think its overblown and I say this as someone who very heavily biases Jimin compared to the other members. Why I bring this is up is because I stumbled upon a yoonmin account today once again and in all my years of coming across yoonminers and I've found only a handful of genuine double biased among those shippers. For the rest Jimin is only there to token stan and use as Yoongi's cheerleader. Yoonminers are almost across the board completely useless for Jimin in terms of supporting him, his music, defending him against antis or even liking him as an individual outside of Yoongi - and I'm talking about people who ship yoonmin as their main not even about tkkrs who have yoonmin as some kind of 2-for-1 package. So yeah as someone who's seen how useless being token stanned by shippers is, I'd say the benefits JK gets are probably because those shippers might actually like him. And even then there's a lot of shippers - and here I include all ships incl jikook - who sometimes only like both people in relation to the ship and you will only see them consuming ship related material.

So all this to say I think the positive affect of having shippers on your side is a bit exaggerated. It's as useful as having kpop stans by your side. You'll get some more likes and buzz on social media but when it comes to music or any actual support, most of them are useless unless as I said the shipper originally liked the member beyond the context of the ship. JK gets a lot of social media clout from all his shippers, y/n's etc of course and that is useful in creating the image of popularity don't get me wrong but there's a ton of idols who have a lot of exaggerated support on social media but whose music streams are extremely disappointing or whose stans support is extremely shallow because they like them for a ship or just for their looks

Sorry it took ages to get to your ask anon.

I agree with your observation and I believe I have mentioned this before. Many people think Jk actually benefits alot because he is shipped with taehyung and Jimin but I never thought that was true and I still don’t think it’s true. This is mainly because in most of the ships he is the center of, he is rarely ever the favourite. Most taekoookers are Taehyung biased and either have Jk as a bias wrecker or just like him because they think he is dating Tae or want him to be with Tae and the same goes for jikookers. Most jikookers are Jimin biased and either have Jk as a bias wrecker or only like him because they think he is dating Jimin or want him to be with Jimin. You can see how true this is in how easily he gets dropped or criticized after he doesn’t “act right” with one of these two.

I still remember how many jikookers became Jimin solos after Face and Seven era and how many taekookers dropped Jungkook like he was hot after Layover and even after Taennie. Jungkook is the one who constantly gets thrown under the bus and very few people actually care to defend him unless it is in relation to the ship, so no, Jungkook has never really benefited much from ships, if anything he had just been used in shipwars only to be abandoned or shaded and insulted, the moment he isn’t either treating Jimin like an egg or the moment he isn’t showing enough love for Tae as Tae shows to him.

Jimin is my bias and honestly I may never have noticed Jungkook as much if it wasn’t for his bond with Jimin but once I noticed him and got to know him not only as an idol but as a person, I grew to love him so much. I hate how misunderstood he is. It breaks my heart everytime I see people complain about him and accuse him of being rude or insensitive or abusive or selfish or all the nonsense taekookers, jikookers, solos and haters say about him when he doesn’t act the way they want him to because in my eyes Jungkook is one of the most innocent and most sensitive members. He is one who has the innocence of baby and is extremely kind and thoughtful. He isn’t perfect and he has his bratty moments and could sometimes be a little to blunt without realizing that his words could be hurtful but he is genuinely a good person and I love him so much.

I know that I have digressed but your ask made me remember that I had been planning to make a post about Jungkook because I got sick and tired of seeing everyone shit on him. I get sick and tired of seeing people treat him like he isn’t a human being yet people have the guts to say he benefits alot from both ships even though all he gets is hate and people constantly pretending to love him even though they do not hesitate to drop him when he doesn’t toe the line. Plus this shenanigans over the past few days have really broken my heart and I can’t believe how this fandom is turning against him just because he dared to speak out against something he probably has experienced himself.

Even people who aren’t shippers who claim to love him only love what he is and not who he is as a person. I cannot tell you how many times I go through the Jungkook tag here on tumblr trying to find good Jungkook focused blogs that have meaningful discussions about him as we have many Jimin focused blogs like that, but everytime I check, the tag is filled with shippers, fanfics or porn, I am tired. It’s like he is just a piece of meat for everyone to either use in ships or use in their Y/N fantasies. Very few people actually care to know who Jungkook is beyond his idol image and hot looks. Even the solos who claim to love him and stream for him only do that so they could have something to brag about among other solos because you can easily tell they don’t know the first thing about Jungkook and don’t care to know. They project unto him, call him a company puppet when they feel like it, potray him as someone who is abusive and rude and insensitive towards his members, infact to them, he is the epitome of a fuck boy and I am tired.

This isn’t me saying that there aren’t shippers or fans who genuinely love him and do things for him out of that love, there are and I am grateful for all the people like that but sometimes I just wish he had more people who genuinely love him not the ones who pretend to for one reason or the other but start showing their true colors once they are not satisfied with something he does or doesn’t do.

As for yoonminers, I don’t even want to talk about those ones because sometimes I feel like they disgust me more than taekookers do. They claim to love Jimin and Yoongi but they have no issue following and interacting with taekookers and taekook accounts that constantly hate on Jimin, are being shady towards him and his bond with Jungkook or are straightup weird. I have never cared about yoonminers enough to look into their demographic but from the little I have seen, they definitely only token stan Jimin and don’t even really give a tiny rats ass about him and for some weird reason, they have made Jimin’s Nevermind tattoo all about Yoongi🙄. Yoongi is one of my bias wreckers and I see his deep bond and friendship with Jimin but even I would never reduce Jimin’s tattoo to being all about Yoongi because that is just disrespectful and like you said, you would never see a yoonminer when it comes to defending Jimin.

My response was all over the place anon but I wanted to use your ask to vent because I’ve been feeling pissed about alot of shit related to Jungkook lately.

there’s something soooo 🥰 about ‘j & j’

lawrd I love them so muchhhh😭

a doll

to the anon asking, I’m a bit hesitant when it comes to name dropping but yes, you’re correct!

hi! I just found your blog and it is great to see people that are open to talk and engage with other peoples perspectives. I was on 2017 jikook tumblr till the start of 2019, when I deleted my account due to the increasing negativity and I just wasnt vibing with all of it. But I had my twitter acc where I just followed translations and updates accounts of the boys and yeah I was kinda updated on them.

Obviously since used to have a tumblr account I had my thoughts on jungkooks and jimins relationship through those years but I just kept them with myself because I wasnt in any space to share them and I didnt want to be involved on any fandom communities at that time.

Like two weeks ago curiosity got me and I decided to see what was going on on jkk tumblr because I had a my thoughts of them since ays started so I created an account lol. Ive been seeing a lot of peoples reactions but it is great to find people that match with what I was thinking. Like they definitely have a relationship with each other that stands out from other ones. I think there has been a lot of things that point to them having a unique/different bond but there is also some others that obviously do not erase all those others moments but kinda gives us a big slap in the face lol. I was reading some of your posts and something that resonated a lot with me was this

Jkk’s dynamic is so distinct from their dynamics with the other boys. I’m happy to speculate whether they could be in a romantic relationship but, I’m also content with not knowing.

To be honest with everything that has happened these last years I don’t really think they are in a relationship. Ive been here since 2017 and for years I used to believe they had something going on, never could I state it as a fact but I think everyone in the fandom noticed it even the members, they were different. But I also think relationships are so difficult and they both are the only ones that can know every aspect of what was going on between them.

I saw on your pinned that you started to use this tumblr acc again. Was it because ays made you had some thoughts too? I hope no one takes this as negative in any way Im just sharing my thoughts as someone who appreciates jimin and jungkook a lot.

Heyy,

So, I also initially left tumblr around 2019 too because the boys were mainly active on Twitter and so was majority of the fandom. I didn’t use this acc to post and would only lurk so, I didn’t have much of an attachment to it.

Funny story but, I do owe me revisiting my tumblr acc to a jkk writer on Twitter. We’re not personally acquainted but, I am a fan of their writing. One day, I was scrolling through their curious-cat and found that they were having these really thoughtful discussions on jkk. I found that I really resonated with their opinions and was just overall so excited that I found a space to engage in such discussions. Now, maybe it’s just me but I find that the jkk space (and honestly the army space as a whole) on Twitter has become less of a space for discussion and discourse as the years have gone by. I came back to tumblr because I thought well, this is where I’ll be able to read and engage in such thoughtful conversation, especially in light of ays.

It does look like we share similar opinions <3 I’m sure you’ve probably seen me say the same thing a billion times but yea, I love Jikook because they always have me on the edge. There’s something so thrilling about being kept on your toes as you observe two people who have such an interesting dynamic. No matter what they are to one another, the love and adoration is undeniable and that’s all I would ever want from them. I just want them to be happy and I can say with confidence that they make eachother happy. Ays has definitely cemented that for me.

You know I will say, that if they aren't together or are bffs with no boundaries, they still have a more beautiful love than anyone I have ever seen. The respect they show each other, the care, attention and devotion is truly remarkable for such young men. I think that is why I am so drawn to them, because I have never seen anything like it. And it isn't forced either, for example when JM asks JK if he is happy in Jeju, and when JK says yes, and JM says that is all that matters, he means it. I truly think it makes him happy to see JK happy, but that is not a one-way street - JK loves to make JM smile, and laugh, to ensure he is safe, he cares about him, does things for him like picking up his shoes, carrying his bags and cooking for him. It is so balanced and so natural to them. It’s stunning to see it for such a long period of time in the show, and the consistency of it over three 'seasons', and three places. I know we have seen their bond before over years, it is why most of us are here, because we see something in it, but seeing it for a prolonged period has been even more eye opening to me, it really is on display. It is absolutely the main character of the show. Its both the big and small things - like JK cooking in ep5 and JM staying around him in the kitchen, even napping and JK leaning over the counter to check on him. It is JK giving JM the medicine in the cabin, building the stone tower and praying over it for good health. It is JK driving in Japan because JM is hesitant. It is JM looking so fondly at JK when he is doing his bottle tricks. JK ordering for them in the USA. Both choosing activities, restaurants and snacks they know the other would like. It is JM setting up their snacks after showering in ep6. JM setting the temp in the bedroom in ep7 and instead of changing it, JK goes out to the living area as not to disturb JM. It is JK falling when he was doing well snowboarding, so he didn't crash into JM, JM seeing that he fell and stopping himself. It is with absolutely no hesitation how they both said they were not worried about enlisting together, and that they were so sure that they would not fight, I don’t know many friends who would be sure of this. I am honestly in awe of them, and the balance they have between the fun and the serious, the nurture they give to their relationship, and the care and love they show each other. Long may it last, because finding someone like that, your person, is absolutely worth fighting for.

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Thank you lovely anon for your advice <3

I feel like two major schools of thought have always existed among Jikook lovers but even more so after the show.

On one hand we have those for whom this show has cemented their belief in Jikook being romantically involved. They see how Jimin and Jungkook interact with each other, talk to each other, and act around each other and conclude, "There is nothing platonic about this."

On the other hand, for some watching ARE YOU SURE has simply confirmed a long-held belief: Jimin and Jungkook have a beautiful bond and are crazy about each other. They are really really close friends with a strangely intriguing idea of what boundaries are. They might have crossed the boundary line a time or two over the years but never really ventured into the deep end.

Both are not wrong. Both are not right. Both can co-exist. The requirement for a single, coordinated point of view is cultist and unrealistically unreasonable.

Based on some blogs and asks I have seen, it seems some people expect all Jikook lovers to gush about how in love Jikook are. It is why when this belief is challenged, some people lash out, try to make excuses, nit pick everything or analyse things to ensure that the evidence supports their belief. (Insert "you didn't call" car conversation and how people were scrambling, or how mad people got that JK wasn't treating Jimin "right')

Some people look for certainty in Jikook. However, there is no guarantee. Some people are terrified—how can you live without knowing for sure? It is not unusual at all. Actually, you only think you know. And the majority of your beliefs are based on imperfect knowledge, but you really have no idea what is actually going on. No matter how certain you are, there is never 100% certainty that you are correct.

Leave room for doubt. For your beliefs to be challenged. Nothing is certain or set in stone.

Where do I stand on this? What label do I assign? I really don't care. I have never really cared. What it is or isn't is none of business. I am simply intrigued by the bond that these two humans have in whatever capacity it presents itself. I will gush about how beautifully these two love, how selflessly these two give, and how fiercely these two protect until the end of time. And I may honestly never know and am ok with that.

Hmmm, when the whole Mijoo thing happened... as a queer woman, I clocked her as queer and like his new 'Lesbian Bestie.' Then she did a whole boyfriend reveal so I was like "okay maybe she was his new Bisexual Bestie" – I honestly don't know her sexuality, but the whole thing pinged me as "JK found some queer tattoo friends to hang with and was finally doing 'Big Kid' things like going to tattoo parlors and hanging out with tattoo friends' – I am over a decade older than JK and it just all reminded me a lot of myself at 22 yrs old. (Everyone remember all the stupid shit they did at 22 right?!) Sure maybe he was exploring sexually as well, but honestly it seemed like he was allowing himself to make friends and be vulnerable with people outside BTS and then it all went sideways on him. The way he apologized for everything in BV4 was heartbreaking.

Insightful opinion, anon.

I think the kpop industry as a whole falls behind when considering nuances like you have. They see their idols with someone of the opposite sex and it’s an immediate assumption that they’re dating.

I do think it’s plausible that the mijoo debacle could’ve been him exploring new environments and friend groups. That makes a lot of sense considering how 2019 seemed to be a changing point for him. We see him begin to set the gears into motion that have resulted in the jungkook of today. I’m not saying that he hadn’t done any growing or changing prior but, 2019 seemed like a significant year of growth.

Yes, I agree. I think we all tend to forget how young jk is sometimes. We register his age as a tangible number but, when considering his level of fame and what he’s achieved next to that number, you kinda have to do a double take.

22. So, so young. I could not imagine going through what he did - experiencing such a violent violation of his privacy and then subsequently feeling that HE had to apologise. That’s so damaging for a young adult. I admire his sheer bravery and the mental strength to overcome that.

He has such a gentle, kind soul. Even to this day, he’s defending the new jeans girls and asking they not be used as shields. The amount of grace he has to move forward from his own trauma and try to ensure his juniors aren’t subject to the same thing.

https://www.tumblr.com/myobsessionsspace/758448642347630592?source=share

Read this and learn.

They are enough as they are. They’ve been each others person for years now. Respect them

This is the last time I’m answering one of these. I’m all for learning about different perspectives and viewpoints. If you believe Jikook are dating, that’s power to you. I’ve always maintained that everyone is entitled their beliefs and opinions. Why can’t you respect mine?

It’s when you keep trying to shove that you ‘know’ they’re 100% dating down my throat and down the throats of anyone who has a different opinion, that you’re crossing the line.

I enjoy and appreciate Jkk’s bond in my own way. You and others with similar mindsets have every right to as well.

You people sound so robotic, spewing the same repeated rhetoric over and over again. It’s the same holier-than-thou entitlement that Taekookers have and I just have to laugh.

I’ve had anons offering views on their perception of jikook and their relationship that are so wonderful and respectfully articulated. It’s people like you who make them feel as if they’re unable to express their opinion in what is meant to be a safe space.

Learn to respect people, anon.

xx and, good riddance.

Mijoo and the leaked video from his apartment— I feel like Jungkook wanted to explore dating women, or at least flirt with women. (Both instances occurred when the group was on a break where jikook aren’t around each other very much)

It’s either Jikook were never really in an established relationship or they were on a break during both times. 🤷‍♀️

When it comes to Jikook, there’s just so much to consider that doesn’t align with conventional relationships that we, normal people(meaning people who are not in a boy band and hella famous), experience. We only see a fraction of their lives and only know what they choose to show us.

However, whether Jikook were never really together, had relationships with others or are currently in a relationship with others, it doesn’t change the fact that they chose to enlist together and that they love each other ( romantic love or otherwise).

Those are facts that jikookers shouldn’t forget. No matter what truths about their relationship(s) they’ll reveal in the future, we should always support them and be happy for them and their happiness.

you’ve put that so wonderfully.

“whether jkk were never really together, had relationships with others or are currently in a relationship with others, it doesn’t change the fact that they chose to enlist together and that they love eachother (romantic love or otherwise)”

anon, you are a beautiful breath of fresh air that my inbox so desperately needed.

I agree with your opinion. Jkk’s relationship is so special, no matter the nature of it. The fact that these two specific people met, became band mates and were able to grow alongside eachother is so beautiful. They’ve shared so many experiences together as bts.

Through ays, gcf and all of the time they spend outside of the group, we’ve seen how happy they make eachother.

GCF is my Roman Empire. I’m never gonna shut up about it.

If anything, I’m so envious of them and what they’ve found in eachother. If they’re romantically together, I’ll sign up as the flower girl. If they’re not, that’s completely fine. The love they share (again, no matter the nature of it) is so uniquely theirs and anon, I’m actually tearing up now bajahhahsj…….i’m just so so happy they have eachother and are together in that shit hole right now.

Thanks for sharing <3

(also pls let me know if the twitter links aren’t working for you)

sorry i accidentally tried to gaslight you into believing we went snowboarding together, you'll still enlist with me, right? 😌

Just some thoughts:

Daeun - I'm on the fence. Look I know she seems crazy as hell, but crazy as hell doesn't deny the possibility of dating. To me there are three possible scenarios

She doesn't know jimin and was never involved with him in anyway and is just doing it for clout

they were friends, so she was actually in his apartment, but she's now trying to make it seem like it was more for clout

they dated but it ended bitterly and she's now releasing all this stuff while he's away from the public eye to be petty

I think its interesting that any of the stuff she posts that tries to tie to jimin is from 2019/2020. To me, there is a possible timeline that they dated, it ended badly and that would correlate with negative feelings jimin was having at the time plus the music he was making (like face-off, MUSE being about the idea of thinking you're in love and realizing its not real, etc.). She could very well just be a clout chaser, but I just also don't think its impossible that she's just a nasty ex who is being petty to rile up his fans now that he is away in the military. Kind of indifferent either way, because whatever it was or wasn't is very in the past, even from the stuff she tries to hint at.

Jungkook video - I've seen a couple theories on this

most common is that the girl in the video is a model friend of j*nnie's. I can't confirm this and some people say it was just started by chinese netizens

recently I saw an anon on a jikook blog say that the girl was actually an englsih translator working for bighit who jungkook had been friends with for a long time and she was helping before releasing Golden/doing schedules abroad and that she had supposedly come and left in a couple hours. Liek I said, I only recently saw this theory, so I can't confirm anything details to that.

I could actually see #1 because we actually see an uptick in tkk hanging out during that time. No offense to their bond, they just don't normally hang out much outside of work, so if they both happened to be involved with girls who were friends, it'd make sense why they randomly starting hanging out more. A tumblr jikooker actually found photos very similar between what tae posted in hawaii (where jungkook was present) and photos j*nnie had posted. If true, do we really think jungkook was just thirdwheeling his bandmate? Or was he maybe there because her friend, a girl he was chatting up, was also there?

Not sure about the translator, but definitely not impossible. Does that mean it wasn't romantic? Of course not, but it would beg the question about jungkook and female friends. Like if we think about mijoo (the tattoo artist), he also did the backhug thing. If we believe them, that there was nothing romantic there (which I will give them benefit of the doubt since it was denied by all sides and she supposedly even had a rather public relationship at the time anyway, so it would've been kind of insane for jungkook to be acting like that in public in front of a whole group of friends if it was meant romantically), then this is a thing he feels comfortable doing with female friends and they feel comfortable doing with him. Which for me, would naturally lead to the question of why? Most straight women aren't letting their straight male friends go around back-hugging them. I think you see where I'm going here.

But then that also rolls up into a whole other can of worms when analyzing jikook, which is how many people would even know if they were in a relationship or even just if they were non-straight individually? I think for jungkook, the number of people he would open up to (obviously within reason, he's a celebrity in a homophobic country) would be higher then jimin would, just based on personality. I mean if you saw jungkook's messy insta posts today, you know he's not really afraid of laying it out there, whereas jimin is very private and holds private details very close to his chest. Tying it all back, I don't really think it would be crazy for longtime translator friend who works in-house for BH (assuming that's who the girl was for the sake of the argument) and for a tattooist (which is still a very alternative, counterculter in korea and was probably the first time as an adult jungkook got to experience a more open nonconforming culture friend group) might be in the know IF he was non-straight/dating a man. I will say I don't think jungkook was lying when he he didn't have a gf, just because with his personality I think he's the type who would rather not speak on it or lie by omission than straight up be dishonest about something (not saying there is a right or wrong way for a celeb to handle keeping stuff private, just the vibe I get from jungkook). Either way, it doesn't really give a clear answer because that could mean he just had something casual going on with a girl that wasn't labeled or it could mean he had nothing going on romantically with a woman during that time at all.

Whew, hopefully I didn't lose you with all that speculation upon speculation. That's just the different considerations I've had about the whole thing, none of it really denies or confirms anything related to jikook tbh, just thoughts I've had about the recent possible dating(?) stuff surrounding the two of them. At the end of the day, daeun could be a clout chaser, the jungkook video could be fake or he's secretly hosting gal-pal sleepover parties with all the girlies, and him and jimin are secretly married. Who the hell know with them LOL

Anon, I don’t agree with some of these speculations but, I can see where you’re coming from with some of these.

Let’s hope you don’t piss my anon girlies off too much with this one. They can get quite catty when everyone doesn’t adhere to their borderline cult mentality :)

Jungkook, the man that you are!

He’s supporting his juniors who are the victims in all this.

Jungkook, of all people, would know how difficult it is to debut at such a young age and try to navigate the industry. The girls have spent their formative years under mhj’s ‘care’. The youngest is 15! They’ve been groomed and led to believe their success can only be tied to mhj.

He isn’t supporting that witch, he’s supporting the young girls who’ve gotten caught in the cross fire.

I honestly think you have a very realistic take on their relationship, to claim you know 100% without a doubt that they have been in a long-term relationship always seemed bonkers to me within the community and to come at someone so harshly for not blindly following and having even a slightly different read on their relationship gives me the cult we know vibes, I enjoy Jikook because I do see a special bond between them but I'll never claim to know the full extent of their relationship nor do I need to know to be able to appreciate what they do choose to share with us. You have just as much of a right to share your opinion as any other person does on here as none of us know these men personally. I like reading the many interpretations people may have and there is more than enough room here on this platform for that.

thank you, anon <3

To the gross anons in my inbox, pls go touch some grass, I’m not answering any of your bs. You can take your opinions to your graves

No because again, leaving room for doubt is erasure and does invalidate them. They are literally out there showing us themselves in the show and you are still casting doubtful opinions about them. Are you insane? As another blogger said it’s like having your cake and eating it too. I don’t care if you’ve been here since 2017 or the year zero, doesn’t make a difference to the fact you’re invalidating them for your own benefit.

It’s not about being right or wrong, it’s just appreciating them as they are, respecting them. You’re answering asks about theories which have no valid basis, touting your opinion as fact, and it’s not. You don’t know they have been in other relationships, there is no evidence whatsoever, you’re believing a grainy video above everything Jikook have ever done, and that is homophobic, no matter what you say. You need to check yourself there. They literally spend the later half of 2023 travelling together and then enlisting and therefore there was no distance. They spent lives talking about each other, hugged like crazy at Hobi’s enlistment, went to Yoongis concert, they saw each other, so you think they made the decision for the show and enlistment in a vacuum? Grow up. You are the very definition of an insecure jkk, because you’ve also just said about JK being bi and with a women, that’s literally a paradox, bc he’s not going to leave Jimin if he loves him, for a women just bc you said it’s safer (again homophobic) and I’m sorry but that is so obvious, he’s obsessed) Jimin didn’t write letter for just anyone and get just anyone to sing on it, that shit meant something.

These men obviously have something incredibly special going on with each other, no matter your view point, or the aroace person or mine. Whatever we say or whatever our opinion has no mind to that.

They not only enlisted together but made this show for us to enjoy and all you keep doing is shitting on it, offering nothing more than doubt. You should truly be ashamed.

Suck my fucking dick omfg.

Yes, Jikook are gonna announce their very gay relationship through mf Disney+.

I’m only ashamed of the fact that I have to share this space with such shallow minded imbeciles such as yourself.

I’ve been replying to ‘controversial asks’ because, people like you are not the self proclaimed leaders of the tumblr Jikook space like you wanna believe you are.

You sound like a fucking cultist, did you know?

People can share their opinions whether you agree or not. Plus, bold of you to claim that I’m stating my opinion as fact when you are damn well doing the same thing.

Please touch some grass. Being so obsessed with two people who could give less of a rat’s shit about you is unhealthy.

there seems to be an opinion in certain spaces that JK is still really into/actively pursuing Jimin (all the lives, the “come overs”/“shall I go to you?”, Jimin birthday video thirst trap lmao etc the list goes on) but Jimin is over it, at least in a romantic sense, and cut things off potentially between them - do you have any thoughts on that?

Hm. I do subscribe to the pining puppy jk agenda.

The birthday thirst trap was just a giant ‘woahhh’. I thought he was just posting a thirst trap for shits and giggles until his birthday wish at the end which had me bursting out in incredulous laughter. I think on that, jk doing special things for jm’s birthday isn’t anything new. He was exposed back in 2017 for unprecedentedly buying jm a birthday gift and literally no one else. I don’t know why he did that tbh😭. It’s a bit goofy if you think about it but, it definitely is one of those things that have me yelling “GAY KINGZ”.

The ‘actively pursuing’ is just their dynamic, anon😭😭😭😭. Ever since teenage jk dropped the ‘jm annoys me, ugh’ sham, it’s been full steam rolling ahead. Those two are always teasing one another. In their earlier years, it was genuinely jk annoying the shit out of jm: mocking and rough housing with him.

Tugging at jm’s metaphorical pigtails in the playground so to say.

Over the years, it’s definitely transitioned into an ‘imma court you’ HAHAHA. This flirtatious atmosphere between them is definitely something they both enjoy playing into. It’s riveting just watching as a bystander.

Girl, don’t even get me started on the “should I come to you?” while lying naked in bed live. This live was after their reunion in New York and I believe 2 weeks after that trip. He had his fill so, I wouldn’t exactly say ‘pursuing’ for that live. It came off to me as if he just wanted to joke (ahem flirt) with jm, high of that trip.

Jm being like ‘I’m not that easy’ (and then deleting it lol) doesn’t give me the impression that he’s ‘over’ jk’s antics. I think we would see a vast change in the way they interact if jm had ‘cut off’ jk’s advances and behaviour towards him.

Comparing Jikook pre ays and post ays, I think they just got more intense anon. Jk’s hand was glued to jm’s back and thigh that entire last ot4 live.

Thanks for the ask!

Unpopular and kinda mean opinion, but I actually think they could have something going on romantically, but I don’t really know if they should. I just think that their personalities and circumstances will make it very difficult to have a healthy balanced relationship and,whether platonic or romantic, I think is kind of the result we saw in chapter 2. If they are involved romantically, then that took place in a vacuum, where they were constantly around each other without having to try and constantly sharing the same experiences. I do think Jimin carries a lot of the emotional burden, not just with jungkook, but probably in a lot of his relationships just given his personality. Conversely, obviously excluding private relationships we don’t know anything about, jungkook has never really had to try in relationships. Like he’s the baby in his family which gives him a natural place and way of being treated, he’s the baby in bts who is also a group that never forced strict age hierarchies on him despite him being the youngest, even pretty much his entire friend group are same age friends which by Korean standards makes friendship a lot easier. I think that all of jungkooks relationships have just had a natural ease to them, with him usually being on the receiving end. He says in AYS that they didn’t hang out and kinda seems like he blames most of it on Jimin but where was he? He had no problems doing vlives but didn’t even know jimins schedule or bother to visit him while he was promoting in korea.

I’m not saying all this just to be mean to jungkook, I just think there is a real reality that if they are romantically involved, then that relationship was built in a bubble with all these mechanisms that don’t exist or work in the real world. Even if we look at it platonically, I think they were struggling to navigate just hanging out in chapter 2 (although I could see the argument of them choosing to spend time separately either to prepare for enlistment which they thought would be separate, or to battle the probably natural codependency that forms from spending so long with someone in such a close setting and in all aspects of you life)

I do think if they’ve ever been romantically involved, they weren’t together during that part of chapter 2 when they weren’t seeing each other or talking. I see a lot of jikookers make excuses like “well when my husband was in medical school blah blah blah…” but the reality is that for relationships to work you have to make time for each other, even if that just a half hour phone call a night. It’s clear that they weren’t talking enough to know what was going on in each others life beyond official content releases.

Idk weirdly I see things that could very plausibly imply they have a romantic relationship, yet there are things that I feel are missing or unbalanced for it to be a healthy romantic relationship. So it leads me to ok are they just not romantic at all or do they have some semblance of romance (like an open relationship or something)? Or is that just a cover up for me wanting to think they’re together even when my brain is acknowledging that elements are missing?

Anon, the jikook police are plotting your assassination as we speak.

I'm joking but, do sleep with one eye open!

Hm, this is a heavy take. I don't think it's fair to assume what type of relationship and dynamic jk has with his family and friends outside of bts. We just haven’t seen enough of it to assume. This 'he's the baby, everyone adores him' narrative might've been the case a couple of years ago but, jk has been very adamant on breaking out of that box. He's done things that completely go against rigid social standards and expectations for idols such as: getting tattoos (and a whole sleeve at that! a baddie fr), candidly discussing sex (that live where he talks about seven and asks a commenter why they would think sex is considered 'dirty') and talking about how he sees clothing as 'genderless. I wouldn't be so quick to say jk is the type to be 'content' with stereotypes. He's grown so much over the years and he's worked so hard on himself. You won't see him completely shut down after making a small mistake on stage anymore. Instead, he smiles and moves on.

There's this post theorising why jk might've not known jm's schedules or tried seeking him out. I tried for ages to find the exact post but, I could not for the life of me find it (I'll link it If I end up finding it).

Anyways, the poster basically said that during late 2022-early 2023, jm and jk were on different pages. Jm was hyper-focused on producing FACE whilst Jk admitted that he was just trying to take it slow and finally take a real break after continuously working. We know jk is the type to get pretty hyper-fixated on completing certain goals and tasks. I'm pretty sure he knows this too. That's why he really took time to rest because he just tends to just throw himself into work head-first. Also, Tae mentions in ep 3 of ays that bts have a shared calender. If jk wasn't working at the time, I don't think he'd need to check the calender? That's probably why he didn't know every logistic of jm's schedule. Plus, jm never seemed bothered by it. He was always gently filling jk in or correcting him about his schedule. I don't think this should paint jk in any negative light. The man just needed a well deserved break.

The poster also said that, if work wasn't something jk wanted to think about at the time, maybe constantly seeing jm working sort of put him off? This is pure speculation

In regards to jkk, I think the word 'unhealthy' is overstepping our boundaries as fans. From what I've seen, jkk have shown what a good, healthy relationship is. Those two adore one another, it's abundantly clear. Them spending time apart, discussing why and moving forward is such a good example of a healthy relationship dynamic. More people need to be like them. Also, joint military enlistment doesn't just happen like that. I'm sure it involved heavy discussion between them. There’s the fact of having to go through screenings to be eligible. This doesn't just happen on the whim of two people who share an unhealthy bond.

You casting doubt or saying they could have had other relationships is not the flex you think it is. In all seriousness that is highly unlikely given their consistent behaviour around each other for years now, at least since 2017, ain’t no way they were dating others. It’s actually quite homophobic what you are insinuating again with the video of Jk, there is not a straight bone most likely in that man’s body. He is all about Jimin, all the time, you only have to watch his habits and lives to see that. There is no room for anyone else. If you can’t see that fine but stop clogging the tag with your homophobic opinions. They also were not on a break, their relationship is private and not for us, or the public. We don’t live under their bed for sure, but you only have to look at them, how they act, how they were, how they spoke about each other, the shared concepts, the travel show, the enlistment. Just know you’re wrong to cast doubt and it’s erasing them and what they are showing is by doing so. It’s not about being rational, it’s literally erasure.

Block me then.

I can’t with these fucking anons picking and choosing when it comes to what I write about.

Me casting doubt is wrong? If my opinion is casting doubt on you, then I would question how easily influenced you are.

You say that we don’t know about their private lives and yet, are 100% convinced he’s been in a long-term romantic relationship with jm.

‘There is no room for anyone else’, ‘ain’t no way they were dating others’. Sure, and you know this cause you’re such a bystander who isn’t privy to their private lives?

I was there in 2017. I was there when gcf dropped. I love them beyond anything so to insinuate that I’m being homophobic towards them is so fucking disrespectful. All because I said that they might not be dating. Get a grip.