I Cant Believe Youre Not Gonna See Me Again Ever In This Lifetime Is A Real Line I Just Heard On A Network

I can’t believe “you’re not gonna see me again ever in this lifetime” is a real line I just heard on a network tv show…like damn y’all really want everyone equally disappointed huh.

Probably an unpopular opinion but if they were never going to resolve Kara's dual identity by finally giving her someone on Earth she could be Kara Zor-El with, and if they further never planned to ever give her another proper love interest and just end her perpetually alone since presumably she doesn't want to settle for a partner that can't understand her that way and whatever she still has her sister so close enough...

...they should have just let Mon-el die at the end of season 2. And let her parents stay dead too.

That way, there could have at least been the poetry of watching her grieve for the metaphorical death of Kara Zor-El, while she was grieving the irreplaceable love of her life. Then she could have decided friendship and career are enough for her to be happy and love is no longer included in her definition of "having it all." That could have been season 3 right there.

At least it would have made sense and given the audience clarity and closure, instead of making us all feel stupid in the end for caring about her search for happiness.

So we got baited...... again

Ok, I haven't seen the finale yet because it is yet to come up on Prime where I'm from, but I've already gotten enough idea as to what happens with Karamel. I'm still going to wait to watch the final episode to say more but I just still think this needs to be said.

I am not anti-Supercorp, and I love Kara and Lena. I think they have a beautiful friendship and they go very well together. I can see why people ship them and it's only natural to have ships between characters on shows, especially ones that are not canon. To some extent, I can also understand the obsession with them. They could definitely be amazing and a power couple. (Have you seen Katie McGrath? She exudes bi-panic!)

What I don't understand is the hate and toxicity of those stans towards other ships and totally bringing down the other characters and quite literally tearing them apart. That is just absolutely bizarre. Not liking a character is okay, not liking a ship is okay, but rage-hating on them and accusing those fans of false sentiments is just horrible. And it happens a lot.

I am a Karamel shipper. I thought Karamel had great chemistry and it was just amazing and pure and true. Mon-El was not perfect and he lied and he wasn't keen on Kara initially. He wasn't perfect. And honestly, Kara had her flaws. She wasn't any better. But they made each other better and just went so well with each other and they loved each other. Season 2 was one of the best written seasons on there.

And then other fans tore apart Mon-El's character and made him out to be this horrible misogynistic person, which was just so confusing. If it were literally anybody else, don't you think they would've been called enemies to lovers? There have been more intense couples than that, with much more hateful words between each other which were so glorified and loved, but Karamel was toxic?

I read a post once somewhere that if Lena were a man, then the whole dynamic would've changed and she would have absolutely not been tolerated. She would've been called obsessive and creepy. Especially after her whole revenge spiel on finding out about Kara. But it's okay because she's a woman?

Now, I'm not saying that Lena should be hated on. I love Lena and her story, especially this season's redemption arc; but I don't think it's fair that a lot of Supercorp stans go on to call non-shippers homophobic for not shipping them. It's like pulling out the big guns to defend yourselves when there is no threat. The same thing happened with the Snowbarry and WestAllen shippers.

The point is that everyone has their own opinion. Everyone has their own reasons for shipping someone and not shipping someone; liking a character and not liking a character, and it's not always that they're homophobic or racist, and just because you can accuse them of that does not mean you should. Those are serious allegations and they hurt. Words have unimaginable power. Please respect each other.

I think I have finally wrapped my head around some of the writers' choices over the years. And ultimately it boils down to they have an aversion to being accused of things.

I mean this is a show that started out (on cbs of all places) VERY heavy on the romance stuff but somehow amazingly on the cw ended up being the only show I can think of ever on this network to go 4 solid years of A 6yr show without their title character kissing anyone, and only canon dating anyone for 45 seconds total. 100 episodes of basically nothing for Kara.

And I think it's because they got cranky about the (undeserved) accusations in s2.

They didn't like being accused of male toxicity so they made William a saint outside 3 eps erased by crisis when he was pretending to be a jerk.

They didn't like being accused of Kara being secondary in her own story, even though she absolutely wasn't, so they skipped giving her anything real or even having anyone bring it up, at all, for half of the damn show, outside of a single brief and barely consequential conversation with Alex last year. Ironically, this is when her story actually DID become secondary and she did nothing in s4 and 5 but service other people's plots.

And because of all this now at the very end I think their fear is being accused of kara's ending being reduced by those same accusers to "leaving her family for a guy." Which I get on some level, honestly. That's not what I want for her either. And it makes sense at this point to frame her inability to live as Kara Danvers around her career. She had to choose Supergirl over Kara Danvers just like she chose Supergirl over partnership.

(Corollary to this: narratively speaking they really should have killed off Lena to give her a chance to actually atone for her sins with a sacrifice. But they didn't want to be accused of burying gays, even though Lena isn't canon wlw and clearly won't be.)

The cost, of course, is the "having it all" part. We'll never get to see what that looks like for her, even as Kelly and Alex get their canon happy ending.

But I guess that's the price of just reacting to accusations passively instead of defending your writing choices and sticking to your guns.

This is my fic that I just started on ao3! Check it out and please feel free to comment what you think about it! :)

by TealaMeyer

“Don’t you dare say anything, I swear to god. I don’t think we’re not in the right place.”

“What do you mean we’re not in the right place, we’re at Dad’s lab.”

“For one, apparently, my mom doesn’t exist here. Congratulations, dickwad, you’re definitely an Allen.”

When two kids suddenly zoom into S.T.A.R. Labs, screaming at each other like they own the place, Barry Allen gets curious and decides to check out what’s happening. And then he freaks out.

Words: 2808, Chapters: 2/2, Language: English

Fandoms: The Flash (TV 2014), Supergirl (TV 2015), Arrow (TV 2012), The Flash - All Media Types, The Flash (Comics), Supergirl (Comics), Green Arrow (Comics)

Rating: Not Rated

Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings

Characters: Barry Allen, Caitlin Snow, Caitlin Snow-Allen, Kara Danvers, Kara Zor-El, Mon-El (Supergirl TV 2015), Original Kara Danvers/Mon-El Child(ren), Original Barry Allen/Caitlin Snow Child(ren), Iris West, Joe West, Alex Danvers, Kelly Olsen (Supergirl TV 2015), Original Alex Danvers/Kelly Olsen Child(ren), Oliver Queen, Felicity Smoak, Mia Smoak, William Clayton (Arrow TV 2012), Jon Jon'zz, Cisco Ramon, Harrison Wells, Lena Luthor, Winn Schott Jr., Nia Nal, Brainiac-5, Alura In-Ze | Alura Zor-El, Zor-El, Original Female Character(s), Original Male Character(s)

Relationships: Barry Allen/Caitlin Snow, Kara Danvers/Mon-El, Oliver Queen/Felicity Smoak, Alex Danvers/Kelly Olsen, Brainiac-5/Nia Nal, Original Female Character/Original Male Character, Barry Allen/Iris West

Additional Tags: SnowBarry - Freeform, KaraMel, Next Generation, Next-Gen AU, Earth 53, Snowbarry AU, Karamel AU, Earth 1, earth prime, Friends to Enemies, Enemies to Friends to Lovers