May I Whine For A Minute?
May I Whine for a Minute?
So, Hack-san was a fairly enjoyable episode for the most part.
Two parts in particular that I really liked are this adorable little DJ WiFi smooch and the fact that Marinette specifically told Alya to make sure that she laughs at Chat Noirās jokes because it makes him happy. ^.^ Look at Marinette worrying about her partnerās happiness.

I feel a little cheated, though. The scene where Ladybug and Chat Noir talked about things was way too short. I feel like they didnāt really talk and that this big, plot-relevant thing was squished into thirty seconds at the end of the episode. ^.^;

I guess this is what fanfiction is for? Iām glad that Marinette did talk to him, though, even if Alya had to prompt her to do it. The look on Marinetteās face tells me that talking to Chat Noir wasnāt even on her radar. It just goes to show how overwhelmed she still is that she doesnāt have the bandwidth to consider how her actions are affecting Chat.
By the way, heās totally lying when he says that heās not sad about her revealing her identity to someone. He may not realize it, but heās definitely sad that itās not him sheās relying on and trusting. I think heās just moreĀ sad about his realization that he could lose her, so thatās whatās at the forefront of his mind. Itās a lot to unpack, and heās not nearly done processing.
I would also like to take a minute to hold up this episode as an example for the people who always bug me about my characterization of Adrien as getting sad and turning in on himself instead of getting angry and blowing up at others. I donāt know why people want me to write angry Adrien, but it just doesnāt fit my understanding of his character to write him as getting angry all the time. In canon, we usually see him getting frustrated but then turning that in on himself and wondering what heās done wrong or why he isnāt good enough. Years of emotional abuse in his home life have taught him not to express anger but to internalize those feelings.
On a lighter note, I love the soft Lady Noir moment here. ^w^

Also, the reflection of her in his eyes is lovely. I really like this shot.

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This is so pathetic, lame, shallow and downright disrespectful to women that suggests that their existence only has to rely on men which is again so wrong, shallow and disrespectful.
the fact that dentists and doctors are kept in separate fields of study is super concerning because doctors being kept entirely in the dark about an entire area of the human body is costing people their lives. my dentist was able to tell me my jaw was shattered on one side. my doctors, some of which are top of their field specialists in pain disorders, all said they did not deal with teeth area issues and glossed over it as if having 5.5 teeth held up via calcium deposit and bone shrapnel isn't unhealthy. one of them is literally an ear nose and throat specialist. come on

I canāt be the only one to find this shot sad, rather than romantic? I donāt Adrien is at the āin loveā stage. He loves ladybug deeply, but itās not purely romantic. She is his whole world, poor boy. And things keep changing, itās hard to figure out your own place in the world, independent of everyone else! Especially when you are used to the loss of the people you love. He still looks terribly sad and vulnerable here, minimally comfortedā¦
Ending Umbrella Scene Analysis (Mr. Pigeon 72)
I loved this scene so, so much from the new episode, I'm going to be rewatching it on repeat for 5 years š
So anyways, I noticed some interesting things about the parallels of the umbrella scenes...thought I'd share...
Marinette got trapped under the umbrella when she was standing alone under it in Stoneheart.
In Mr. Pigeon 72, they are both trapped under the umbrella together and are standing next to each other.

It symbolizes the fact that now both of them hold the umbrella, showing their mutual love for each other, Marinette not being alone in her feelings for Adrien anymore.
āWow, have you kept it all this time?ā
Immediately after, the scene shows us rain and lighting, the same situation in Origins when Marinette first fell in love with Adrien. Itās indicating that sheās fallen in love with him again.
Marinette's love for Adrien was originally depicted in the umbrella scene. He gave her the umbrella. Itās the moment that sparked her love. But it doesnāt end there. He's also given her something else, which she's kept for a long time. It's not just an umbrella. The umbrella is supposed to symbolize love between them. More than a reverse in the love square, itās a reset.
Adrien's question about keeping the umbrella doesn't just refer to the umbrella. It refers to her feelings.
Marinette has kept the umbrella concealed, the same way sheās kept her feelings concealed. Whatās special about this scene? The fact that she didnāt conceal her feelings. Sheās been trapped, like an umbrella, but sheās finally opening it up in this scene.
The symbol here is that sheās had the umbrella the entire time.
Sheās kept her feelings for Adrien buried inside the entire time, finally taking them out during this scene and falling in love again.
The umbrella served as a symbol of her love for him, and by showing that she kept it, it suggests she never lost it.
Yes, Marinette spent so much time in denial of her feelings. She even tried dating Luka. She tried to forget about Adrien. But she never did let go of Adrien. Marinette still has the umbrella, but she's using it for the first time after falling in love during this scene.
I can't go to describe how well the dialogues are written in this scene.
Although Marinette wanted to return the umbrella, Adrien told her she would need it to get back home.
They're literally speaking through the umbrella's terms here-
Their love is symbolized by the reoccuring situation. Adrien is telling her that itās too early for him to accept the umbrella. He tells her she needs it to go home. Before he can accept it, Marientte needs to accept her feelings for him and become comfortable with herself. She needs to feel comfortable around Adrien before he can accept his love for her. Thatās why theyāre both standing under the umbrella this time. Not just Marinette.
When they were both holding the umbrella, Marinette asked him to walk home with her. The way she asks for love is indirect. He was happy that Marinette wanted him to walk alongside her, but looked back and realized there were still too many responsibilities for him too. That it wasnāt time yet.
I think this scene was trying to tell us that itās too early. Itās not time yet to hold the umbrella together, before walking beside each other, before accepting those feelings. He first needs to get control over his life. They must be prepared to hold the umbrella together, not just as Marinette and Adrien. As a team.
But he canāt accept the umbrella just yet.
Life is not waiting for the storm to pass, but learning to dance in the rain.
I love what Alya said here. The quote essentially suggests that you should enjoy the present moment for what it is, rather than wasting time watching it pass.
Adrien and Marinette falling in love under the umbrella happened all over again, and itās really not a coincidence. Alya said that she wanted Marinette to understand that she needs to live for the present rather than constantly worrying about being a guardian night and day. No matter how bad the circumstances are, she's still got to take breaks. Marinette found out immediately after that Adrigami had split up. But instead of going to console Adrien, she went to console Kagami because she knew Kagamiās only friend was her. She learned to accept circumstances as they are and immediately decided to go to Kagami. Because thatās what (girl)friends do.
When the storm passes, you can dance in the rain. When you wait for a storm to pass, you will freeze. Life is a struggle, and you will have to deal with daily struggles that are outside of your control. Depending on how you handle your struggles in life, youāll either build yourself up or break yourself down. In the midst of the storm, you can find peace if you take the right steps.
āLearning to dance in the rain' refers to the need to prepare for difficult times rather than merely wait for them to pass. This means that, despite all the challenges in life, it is still possible to find happiness. Despite being stuck in the middle of a bad storm, itās important that Marinette learns to dance in the rain. Itās about how to view things, and how we keep optimism about our future, and recognize that we're heading in the right direction. You won't put your life on hold if you make it a point to enjoy life, even if it means you might have to sacrifice something to let loose once in a while. When the storm passes, you shouldnāt sit down to wait for it to pass since you may forget to get back up and continue your life. Thatās what Alya is trying to tell Marinette. Youāre going to get tired, and you can pause for a break in the weather, but dancing in the rain helps you get back up and finish what needs to be done.
Whenever there is a storm, Marinette isolates herself from love. Not just Adrien. Any type of affection. Her friends, her family, Luka...Thatās what happened in Gang of Secrets. Marinette wants to keep her friendships but she doesnāt want to reveal her secret. It's important to her not to involve her friends in this. They shouldn't be burdened by her. Itās safer if no one finds out. Having a secret, and a struggle to prioritize, and maintaining her relationships causes her to do that to herself and people around her. In spite of the fact that it hurts, she's avoiding relationships entirely because she hopes it will protect those around her. Her time and energy is limited because relationships take a lot of effort and time. As a result, she avoided any type of romance. To the point where she was in clear denial of her feelings.
Now that she has Alya, she can help her. Of course, Alya's support for Marinette cannot be underestimated, but the episode is also a reminder that things aren't close to being ideal. As strong as Alya is, she isn't so strong that she can completely reverse Marinette's fall and reset everything back to normal.
Marinetteās definitely recovering. Nevertheless, the show is doing a lot to demonstrate that it is still a process. Sheās still spending lots of time battling Shadowmoth. She has been making all kinds of crazy contraptions to hide the miracle box and kwamis in her room, and itās driving her a little insane. Sheās spending most of her time working on translating the grimoire while maintaining her double life and duties as a civilian. The storm is waning- but it isnāt over yet.
Why is that line from Alya so important? Because Marinette does need to let loose. Take a break from all the plans and simplify her life sometimes. Her approach is to take charge of situations, make plans, and set up things to make them happen. When sheās Ladybug, her assertive behavior means she is automatically paid attention to, and her clever plans save the day. Sometimes her anxiety is spiking and it goes a little too far. A flaw shown throughout the show: She goes from trying to lead a situation to trying to control it, steamrolling the other people involved. Complicating things often stresses her more.
Gamer 2.0 is a perfect example of this. This episode shows how she goes to great lengths to make people happy and even overworks herself in order to do so. She attempted the same approach over and over again out of stress and confusion in response to the situation. The concept of ādancing in the rainā is actually what Chat Noir did and was trying to tell Ladybug in the episode. Yes, there was indeed a storm. Yet, it was the enjoyment he found in the midst of it that helped them in the end, wasn't it?
Another example from this episode. Marinette did that with Kagami. Marinette was determined to reconcile Kagami and Adrien since she thought that would be the best outcome for their relationship, regardless of Kagamiās multiple attempts to tell her she didnāt want to make up with Adrien.
She, however, reevaluates the situation and reconsiders her approach when she's calmed down.
It took Marinette a while to allow herself to be happy again because she was waiting for the storm to pass. Alya advised Marinette to take a break and get her mind off of those things, but Marinette kept insisting that she couldnāt until she had everything figured out. While Alya tried to make Marinette forget about her stress by telling her about Adrien's commercial and the breakup, Marinette denied any sort of feelings she had for him, because if she tried to pursue Adrien while Shadowmoth was still active, it would end in the same way as Luka. And she doesnāt want a repeat of that. Thatās why she seems to be avoiding romance.
Her avoidance doesn't just stop there- she fights as hard as she can to keep Kagami and Adrien together. Why? Because she canāt get distracted. Because sheās put a barrier on herself. Marinette is evidently not allowing herself to be happy until Shadowmoth has been defeated and her life calms down.
Marinette unknowingly recreated the moment where she first fell in love with Adrien, except this time they were holding the umbrella together. It's a symbol of reciprocation.
Kagami: The beating heart, the tingling..I felt all this. At your place. Youāre the one that blushes and stutters when youāre around Adrien. You know his schedule over three years. Youāre right, Adrien is perfect. Heās perfect for you.
The whole point; Marinette had a very specific goal in mind: scheming to make Kagami realize that Adrien loved her. Yet it clearly did not work that way. Mariette managed to avoid all that pressure once Adrien found interest in someone else and for once, she didn't have to worry about it. Because she didn't aim to be the one with Adrien, she didn't obsess over how every move she made could lead to him disliking her. Her downfall in past episodes was that she anticipated Adrien's reaction and panic over how it would ruin her life.
In much the same way as the first umbrella scene, Marinette didn't focus on her feelings for Adrien due to the fact that she didn't develop them until after the moment. As a result, her romantic feelings were able to blossom without thought or hesitation. In this interaction with Adrien, Marinette conveyed exactly what she wanted. She barely even stuttered or stumbled over her words when asking him to walk home with her.
Since Marinette was still convinced Kagami had a chance with Adrien, when Kagami told her that sheās the one who should be with Adrien and then walked away, she had little time to reflect, since Adrien immediately approached her.
Marinette and Adrien allowed themselves to be themselves and let the unfolding of events be an unplanned event.
Adrien still has a special place in her heart, despite it taking her longer to recreate a moment with him. The parallels show that this is the moment they fell in love all over again.
Marinette took advantage of being alone with Adrien in the rain to ask him to walk her home with her, spending more time with her. His father wouldn't approve of him skipping Chinese lessons if he turned her down despite the fact that he wants to.
In that moment of walking home, she was not only smiling, but also enjoying "dancing in the rain." Both literally and figuratively.

And I really, really want to talk about the end card. After three episodes of Marinette being curled up alone, crying, depressed and helpless, look at her now- Sheās happy, sheās dancing, laughing and so in love!!
Marinette dances in the rain, as Alya suggested, indicating that we can still let loose even in tough times.
Not everything is fixed; it's clear that thereās still lots of duties for her. But even though she has a storm coming, she's in one at present in the midst of it all, but despite these responsibilities, it's fine to enjoy herself in the moment!
Another very important thing to note from the sceneā¦
When Marinette takes out the umbrellaā¦.
She didnāt give it back to him. But he didnāt take it back.
She isnāt losing hope or giving up on her feelings for him, sheās content to keep and enjoy the feelings and accept wherever that leads her.
Despite still having much to think and reflect about, she now acknowledges her feelings, something weāve seen her struggle with since the end of S3.
Another thing on the end card...the pictures of Adrien. In the pictures, sheās dancing in the rain, so it emphasizes yet again her happiness to enjoy her feelings for Adrien. In one of the pictures, Adrien is wearing the scarf Marinette made for him; I feel that this could be foreshadowing? Because if what was needed was pictures of Adrien, what was the need to include the scarf in two of the pictures? Iām thinking maybe it has something to do with a scarf reveal in the future. (Thatās just a theory though)
And the most important thing from this end card was also because of the scarf. Marinette was the one who gave Adrien the scarf, and Gabriel is the one responsible for Adrien not knowing about it. Heās like a barrier between them- both as Gabriel and as Hawkmoth. (@sugarcubetikki Sugar I was talking to you on Discord about that so I thought you might want to be tagged)
Adrien has no idea that it's from Marinette, he thinks it's from his father. The thing standing in their way is his father.
Similarly to this scene- what gets in the way of him walking home with Marinette is his father. He has too many responsibilities. He needs to go home. Same with the scarf. It's his father's actions that limits him and hides the truth, it's the same reason he isn't able to realize Marinette's love for him in both situations. Gabrielās like a strain putting a restriction on them. Itās the same thing that happened in Chat Blanc. Thatās why they couldnāt date.
The next part is probably my favorite :)


Itās so silly and cute. The umbrellas closing in on them.
But even that, note the difference between the two- Marinette was trapped under the umbrella by herself before. Now theyāre trapped under it together. Theyāre both trapped under their own love. Thatās why this scene wasnāt necessarily a reverse love square. Itās indicating that the next step is for both of them to carry the umbrella.
In a tender moment with Adrien where they retrace past steps, Marinette falls in love for the second time after getting Kagami's blessing to pursue Adrien. Her umbrella symbolizes the love between them, and thus she offers it to Adrien.
The difference this time is that she is in control of her feelings, rather than allowing it to be given to her.
She willingly offers the umbrella to Adrien. She isnāt trying to make a disinterested Kagami try to date Adrien anymore.


Thereās also something so different about his look. When he initially befriends her, heās careful because heās never done it before. Heās never had friends, itās all new to him and doesnāt want to mess up. At this moment, he isnāt really going for friendship or romance or anything specifically, itās just a relationship he wants to fix. Adrien has made a friend for the first time, and Marinette wouldn't even look at Adrien before that happened. Itās a situation where heās happy to have befriended her. He is delighted that after several attempts he managed to become her friend. But this scene is so different. Itās almost like a realization. Itās perfectly reflected along with the fact that he isnāt the one lending his umbrella this time.
In the first umbrella scene, Adrien passed the umbrella to Marinette. The love is something he gave to her.
But in this scene? Theyāre holding it together. This perfectly represents that love is reciprocal and it takes the two of them to hold on to it.




Literally nothing to analyze here, I just love them so much lol-
The parallels here are absolutely adorable, theyāre laughing at each otherās clumsiness and being silly. Theyāre both nervous and making silly mistakes out of love. Itās one of the times we get to see Adrienās goofy, clumsy side around Marinette and itās a parallel to the same reason they fell in love in the first place. Their reactions to each other here are so genuine and full of warmth. Theyāre so in love.
Adrien gave the umbrella to her in the first scene. She accepted that gesture of love and carried it with her, sometimes in denial but ultimately ended up taking it out. When she tries to give it back in this scene, Adrien tells her she still needs it.
She canāt give up just yet. Thatās why sheās full of happiness at the end of the episode. Marinette wants to enjoy her feelings for Adrien, sheās overjoyed to be in love again.
Adrien canāt accept the umbrella from her just yet becauseā¦
Marinette needs it.
Itās too early for him to.
But itās such an important moment of growth.
Itās vital that theyāre ready to hold the umbrella together, not just as Adrien or Marinette.
Those two are made for each other. Kagami said it. Master Fu said it. Thereās no doubt there anymore.
This episode carries a very important theme. The entire show does, actually. While life isnāt all about waiting for the storm to pass, we all have to learn to deal with the thunder and rain through experience and learning. Itās what Marinette and Adrien do every single day. We can allow life-threatening challenges to overwhelm us and leave us in darkness or we can embrace them with well-lit light. What made Marinette grow in this episode was that realization.
Itās about deciding if we want to embrace the rain by learning to dance in it, or if we want to make it even harder by waiting the storm out. Marinette finally danced in the rain. Things are headed in a good direction.
An important symbol I personally found memorable from the episode; Even in the middle of the storm, Adrien and Marinette are still tied together by their umbrella, theyāre trapped under it, because theyāre trapped under their love for each other.
(Or you know, you can just ship Marigami and move on with your life)

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