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HELLO??? I'm not only in AWE but IM SCARED. This gave me goosebumps. Sun going supernova and turning into a black hole. HELLO??? That would be so awesome...so sad...so delicious. I could never see Sun being a villain but him just turning into a force that everyone has to stop? UGh I can't add anything to this it's so well thought out and explained. The artistry!!! This is just wow! RAaaAAAgh

I'm never going to stop thinking of this.

Maybe Sun won’t die, but “Sun will die.”

So… something sparked in me when watching the recent video. If sources are correct, the creators aren’t going to kill Sun. Sun won’t die. But I see an old quote slowly coming true.

‘What I mean will be at the end of this theory.

Let’s go through some stuff to make this more understandable.

We all know that the only “original” person here is Sun. He hasn’t died, remade (aside from fixing/transferring after blasting Eclipse), or was reprogrammed. He’s our Sun. Our traumatized sunny boi.

But that’s just it. He’s has so much memories. He is the only original and now? He’s gaining some super powerful magic. He was once able to control Star power. Now… he can sense the wither crystals.

These wither crystals are going to be very important in my theory as we know that it can slowly corrupt anyone who holds them long enough… yet Sun was somewhat unaffected by the corruption. But you know what actually affected him?

The wither dragon.

It caused him to go in a trance. Something that the other wither shards haven’t done to him. What makes matters worse is that Dark Sun had mentioned before that a lot of the things he’s done was for our Sun. But why? Why our Sun? What makes our Sun so special for him to do what he’s doing? Why is it so important that even the creator wants Sun?

Why?

Well before stating the theory, let’s talk a little bit of science.

We all know that the Sun is basically a large STAR. It’s what the Moon (Lunar) needs to shine, it’s what Earth needs to survive, it’s half of what Eclipse (Solar) is. It, itself, is powerful to supply life. In a way, the Sun is powerful enough to produce life.

But what happens if a star dies?

Well there are two possibilities that come to mind.

One you have the dead star or zombie star, which are remnants of what was the star before it died. Which is foreboding in itself. But we can deduce this as not a possible senerio as we know the creators confirmed that Sun won’t die (unless info changed).

So what is the other possibility?

Well, if a Sun/star were to collapse in on itself…

It is said that is how a

BLACK HOLE is made.

Ironically enough, should you know what a black hole does… then perhaps you should know what it could resemble in Sun and Moon show terms…

BLACK HOLE = WITHER STORM

So here’s the theory part.

Sun will become a black hole.

An embodiment of a wither storm. We all said that Sun has the most trauma. We all said he’s been alive since the beginning. And we know that the creators said Sun won’t die.

But he won’t die. Rather he has a fate worse than death. To quote a infamous quote:

“You either die a hero or live long enough to be a villain.”

Back to the saying: Sun won’t die, but “Sun will die.”

Our Sun will eventually become the villain. His current self will “die”.

But he won’t die exactly. Ever wonder why there are wither crystals?

Well, when a black hole is formed, the star itself will burst into what is called a supernova. Shooting remnants of the once living star out to space. So in a sense, Sun’s self will be blasted into various parts of space. So while he is “dead”, he isn’t dead. Rather I see this as both a chance for his family to bring their loved one back together and for Sun to do some reflecting. I also see this as a possibility where Dazzle may also play a key part in helping bring Sun back, but how? I ain’t exactly sure but call it a feeling.

As for last pointers, I would think they will call corrupted Black Hole Sun one of these names and why:

Dark Star = first name before Black Hole

Supernova Void = fancy word

Stellar void = fancy

Void Sun = just because.

Have to reblog have a root canal in the morning

“But if you forget to reblog Madame Zeroni, you and your family will be cursed for always and eternity.”

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Random Idea but with what I know about current spoilers I have two ideas. One is that Sun will somehow becomes the Witherstorm (I AM BANKING ON THIS) or he's going to be relevant to the Witherstorm of their dimension and be scattered through dimensions.

One of my most favorite series of all time is "Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicles" and the crux of that series is they need to put someone back together and to do so, they have to travel to various dimensions to find the missing pieces of the person's soul. I totally see that happening to our Sun? I don't know why.

Even to this day, Sun still hasn't quite opened up about himself. Not to Old Moon, New Moon, Solar, Earth, Lunar, etc etc. I think the most he's been open towards thus far is probably Dazzle ironically?

I'm still getting caught up but I can tell Dazzle actually wants to get to know him so she's asking about him and he's honestly telling her. (also loving how Sun is spending more and more time with the kids in the show, He spends so much time with FC, Dazzle, Jack, etc. It's so wholesome) I'd say Earth and Lunar are in second place of knowing him best but they also still sometimes are kept an arm's length away.

Solution to this? Scatter parts of his 'soul' into the multiverse and make it the family's responsibility to find him! Heck he could even be in a coma the entire time they do this! When they find a Sun fragment they get to see his memories or feel and hear his thoughts.

In Tsubasa the fragments are called 'feathers' and they can warp reality, break time and space, or even gain sentience. I think it'd be so neat if one of the fragments of Sun became Dark Sun but I know it's not likely.

"I am doing this for Sun, Because I am Sun" vibes

Just an Idea but it'd be so cool if it happens!

My second Idea, has to do with a sketch I did a bit ago (still working on more sketches for it) but basically I know Sun's currently gathering power. He's a fighter and wants to help! His family is still keeping him away from the action though. It's not malicious and comes from them wanting to protect him but it's going to ultimately leave him more vulnerable and a target.

Dark Sun I know is tampering with dark energies, he's raising a dragon? He's associating more and more with Witherstorm energy and he still hasn't quite confessed what his motive/plan is besides the fact this is "all for Sun"

So wouldn't this mean Sun is going to ultimately becomes a Witherstorm? It's what the creator studies and the one of the main dimension is different from others so who's to say our Sun and Moon aren't also built different with different fates?

Creator created something specifically just to torture and wear Sun down but when you think of it, that's also what Old Moon was until they split. I don't think that was the intention but the fact Old Moon just decided to point blank torture Sun? Sus, like it was meant to happen.

Dark Sun I think needs Sun to be his pet Witherstorm, and he's maybe planning to use Nexus to make that happen? I just got to the point in the series where he just picked up New Moon from space and took a chip out of his brain. Bruh...he needs him but won't say for what.

I love it. Dark Sun my beloved what are you evil little plans <3

Hoping Sun doesn't fall into a Coma but it'd be so sexy of him aha~

I really like when Sun spends time with Earth and Lunar too it'd be so cool if they have an adventure to save him.

BTW I've been listening to Aurora's song "The Seed" and it literally gave me a big brain AU idea for tsams but idk if I should try to write it.

I really hope Sun ascends to some kind of God-hood like being especially involving destructive energy like Witherstorm stuff. It'd be so neat and sad if one of the nicest people ever became the ultimate judge, jury, and executioner-like being. It's especially ironic since Nexus/New Moon can't decide what's real anymore and just decided to frick off and become God so it'd be realllyyyy funny if Sun was the one to become a reality altering being.

I'm just Madoka-ifying Sun at this point

Grabs this and shakes it

This is so neat I'm so sorry to grab this and choke it but omigod I need this. That reminds me isn't puppet implied to be from the universe the canon DCA attendants are? There's so much angst to be had but also just cute chaos.

I need this in my life it just sounds wonderful.

As someone in both a DCA Fandom and TSAMS fandom, I would do anything for a fic that has the canon DCA getting isekai-ed to the TSAMS universe. It would be so funny. Canon Sun would have a stroke, aneurysm, and hernia at the same time, meanwhile Canon Moon would start off hiding in the shadows but eventually go back to their usual thing of terrorizing the employees (including the alternate daycare attendants) and generally doing a little trolling.

Sun and Sun’s dynamic would be that “and she’s also, ugly” audio. Canon Moon would steal TSAMS Moon’s hat and mock him for his baldness. Canon Sun and Lunar would either be besties, enemies, or friend-emies, Canon Moon and Frank would be interesting, and I have no more ideas

Nexus you silly pookie. Hee hee, I will genuinely be so sad and heartbroken if he dies because of Dark Sun. I couldn't handle it, he's just an emo baby. He needs to be swaddled. LMAO

I'm not normal ddgjjjjjxseghgh

If coma Sun doesn't happen I'll write it myself ✍️/srs

Literally since you mentioned Wastelands for a mindscape I've had ideas.... That was so genius... You don't know what you've done...

I'm doomed by the Brainrot.😔

Cxfvghbnsdgh I'm hyped for what's next too! Canon be cooking 🍳

I was scrolling through your blog looking for cool theories and speculation and just saw something neat you were mentioning a bit ago. It has to do with Nexus spiral and his descent into madness when they did the simulation for "what if Nexus was good"

I think you're totally cooking with the idea no one knows his spiral started at the idea of Sun dying. Ever since he started spiraling something he said over and over again was "I don't know what's real"

What do you think would be the thing to snap Nexus back into reality? He actually showed moments of regretting shooting star power at Earth and cried in agony when he couldn't try to use BloodMoon to bring back Solar. He only went with Dark Sun because in his mind he's effectively lost everything and he was the one to throw everything away.

I think he's genuinely one big cry for help but the cry is to please make him face reality. What do you think? If people knew the entire spiral was because he's to scared to face the possibility he's in a world where Sun died instead of Solar do you think it would change anything?

How does one get help figuring out what is and isn't real?

Bdndndnndnxjdnd your thoughts on this are amazing 🤩

You're asking really good questions.. and it makes me believe even more that Nexus in some way doesn't want go near Sun or kidnap him or anything because he's scared that he'll kill him..

Because I think that since V2 Eclipse (that one with the star) told him that Sun will die because of him.. he's scared that he'll be the cause of Sun's death.. and maybe he wanted Sun to hate him so he could be at safe distance from him?

I think that when something will happen to Sun.. it is then when Nexus will realize what he's done..

Or that's what I think..

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me ^^

I'm honestly so happy that you send me this ask.. cause you made me realize that maybe Nexus is afraid that one day he'll wake up and Sun will be gone.. and that his dream was what was actually real..

I'm excited for what is about to come (⁠人⁠ ⁠•͈⁠ᴗ⁠•͈⁠)

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"I want them carnally" SAME 🤣

I need to see these two together at all times. I like them so much!!!! I need the Suns to be a bonded pair!!! I don't even care if they become brothers or not so long as they're together. It seems like Dark Sun's plan is to do something to tie Sun to himself and I'm so here for it.

I hope their string of fate is tied into a Palomar knot or woven like a wicker cage.

Dark Sun wants Sun. Period!!!!! I can't wait to learn more of the sussy's plan and how Sun reacts to it.

Plus imagine the ✨angst and drama✨ in Moon / Nexus / Lunar / Solar / Earth when they see how actually close Dark Sun gets to Sun when they do interact? They couldn't say what his favorite movie is, favorite color (Lunar guessed), or favorite activity. No one could recommend to Dazzle a good gift for her to get besides Cat stuff.

Dark Sun will just prove how little everyone understands of their big brother! The one they could have easily gotten to know more about!

They should kiss as a treat. Dark Sun and Sun the perfect blend of pamper/pampered cause they both like taking care of people but also like being taken care of?

Thank you for answering my ask!

Dear Banana

You are awesome. Thank you for opening my eyes to honey trap duo 😂. You are also a poet when it comes to Sun angst. ☀️👌

What's your thoughts on Dark Sun and Sun becoming brothers? I see it happening. (totally just projecting my desire into the universe)

Thank you!! 😁😁😁😁 I have never being so passionate about one character like Sun. Sun, Dark Sun, Sunshine, SunBOT, servant Sun, every Sun makes me so giggle.

Even with Sans Undertale doesn't make me down that bad and spends hours to analyse him like with Sun.

Man, the day Sun and Dark Sun become brothers, not to be dramatic but I think I can die in pieces.

I want them carnally.

Like, they just interact briefly but there is so much potential between them, between the cold-bitter-apathetic- confident - independent - live for himself - i have enemies's blood on my hand and I totally do not regret about it and I wish I do it sooner- god let me live for another day and I will make it everyone's problems -future self Vs the young - tired - after so much crap still naïve and hold some hope into future- selfless - Life can hit me in the face whenever it wants and I still apologise to it because the backbone I have totally irrelevant with the abandoned and self esteem issues Moon gift me- the one who codependent to Moon to the core because everyone he cares about expect Moon if not get hurt badly then turn evil - present self.

Like, they are both Sun, they are so similar yet so different. And that really makes them interesting, because can anyone know Sun better than Sun? Surely they are pro at lying to themselves, but to be like that, they also need to know themselves in some levels of consistency.

And how their outlook on life is completely opposite. Sun still has some hope on Moon while Dark Sun completely wiped out of Moon's existence out of his mind.

It would be awesome if Sun finds someone who understands him, who will not talk him down or ignore him. (We see how Sun handled Sunshine like a pro) And Dark Sun finds someone while still like him, still kind and gentle and honest.

What more is the reason Dark Sun builds Neptor that way if not because he misses the time when he is still himself, still kind, honest, gentle and always thinks the best of everyone?

I want them to be brothers, even more on some darker days (damn, as long as they stay together, I don't care about what status quo they called each other, brothers, besties, drinking buddy, co-parents, lovers, we are not friends and we do not hate each other that much but I still want to strangle and destroy you when kissing you type of relationship...) (what am I saying, I have problems)

Because they can build up something really good out of each other, or make each other become so worse.