Painter Kara Because Why Not

Painter Kara because why not

I had a challenge to choose what the dbh characters new years resolutions would be, so I chose to do painting for Kara because I just wanted to draw her in that outfit, simple gay excuses as usual

Also the hair clip is absolutely useless considering her eye is still covered by hair

This is what she painted, she'd called it Duckie or something sweet

Here's some stuff I drew in December of 2021 that I spent some time on

I wanted to post these because it would have been waste to not post it :)

The Kara Skellington one was prompt on drawing a dbh character in a Christmas movie au and I chose the nightmare before Christmas because it is the only Christmas movie I watched :) ((Luther can be Sally))

Okay bye

...So I got these while I was at work today. And since OP has been so brave as to delete them so that I can't respond to them publicly on ao3, I figure that I'm just gonna do that here.

Because I've had a long day and I'm tired. But mostly because I can.

"But you totally ignore the point that Connor is just as much a machine as any of the deviants were before they woke up. Actually he has LESS life experience than the other two main characters in the game and the constant threat of deactivation hanging over his head."

Why is it that when someone even remotely criticizes Connor that one of the first things that people like this use in his defence is is 'lack of life experience?' Do you guys not remember that Kara lost all six years of her life due to the mind wipe that occurs at the beginning of The Opening, or do you only pay attention to the game when Connor is on screen? Because Kara deviates on six and a half hours of life experience and even then, her non-deviant choices still have weight upon her story. If Alice doesn't like you enough to give you the key to her treasure box, or if you choose to follow Todd's orders and not move, Kara fucking dies as a consequence of the choices you made while playing within her non-deviant sections. So if Kara's limited life experience means that her non-deviant choices hold weight within her story at large, then Connor doesn't get the excuse of being too 'young' to not understand that choosing to kill people is morally objectable because he's got literal months more experience once Partners hits than Kara does in her entire narrative.

Also: constant threat of deactivation hanging over his head? Do you not. Pay attention. To Kara's storyline. At all? You can kill her twenty-one different ways across her entire storyline. In comparison, all but one of Connor's sixteen permanent deaths occur in the final moments of Battle for Detroit, meaning that he is all but guaranteed to make it to DBH's endgame while Kara can be eliminated from the story within the first hour of gameplay. If anyone has the 'constant threat of deactivation hanging over their head,' it's Kara because Connor can literally fail all of his missions and CyberLife will still bring him back to life over and over again so long as he's able to find the key to Jericho. Hell, they'll even resurrect Connor if he turns deviant and dies. There was never any real threat to his life because Amanda is lying her ass off about deactivating him right up until the very end.

You choose to erase that in order to make him out to be a villain, in one point you even compare him to TODD? Who has free will and is a creep-abuser? That comparison is not fair at all, because I've grown up with a father like Todd and that actually offended me.

Firstly I want to say that, OP, I'm genuinely sorry that you had to experience that growing up. No one deserves a father like Todd. No one. And I do genuinely apologize if you were offended by the comparison... But you’re also taking what I said completely out of context.

Because this is what I wrote when comparing Connor to Todd:

We are shown throughout A New Home that Todd is going through some pretty dark shit. He's a broke, unemployed, clinically depressed addict on a medication that causes extreme mood swings. He's highly implied to be suicidal (the gun being out on the nightstand is probably a clue), and he's bought a pair of androids to play house with so that he can fill the void in his life that was left when his wife walked out on him and took their daughter with her to go live with her boyfriend. There's a lot about Todd's story that is designed to make him pitiable. But if that's the case, why doesn't this fandom feel bad for him?

It's because we see him through Kara's eyes. And while Kara (and through her, the player) acknowledges these things about Todd, it isn't enough to excuse the deadly threat that Todd is to her and Alice.

And I think the same needs to be said for Connor. Because, yeah, we know about the gaslighting and the indoctrination because we see his story through his eyes. But do you think any of that mattered to Rupert when he was chased from his home in what's a thinly veiled metaphor for an ICE raid? Do you think Echo cared about any of that after Connor shot Ripple and then used her disembodied head to trick her into revealing the location of Jericho? Do you think Connor's indoctrination mattered to Simon, who killed himself to keep Connor from tearing open his mind in the hopes that he could glean the location of those Simon died to protect?

Connor is similar to Todd, not because he's some creepy abusive piece of shit, but because they pose the same level of threat to Kara. If you're looking at her story on its own, Connor very clearly belongs in the same category as Todd, Zlatko, the various soldiers from Crossroads and Battle for Detroit, the Bad Boys from the deleted chase sequence in The Pirates' Cove, and potentially even the cop from Midnight Train in the cut version of the game where Luther isn't with you when you hit that chapter. And that is because all of those characters can do the exact same thing to Kara... which is to murder her.

Like, seriously, why do people think that Kara runs onto a highway if she's spotted by the cops? She's not doing it for shits and giggles. She's doing it because both she and Alice consider running across traffic to be the safer option than being caught by Connor, who actively chose to go after them… because you, the player, chose to go after them. DBH is an interactive piece of media and every time you consciously make a choice to do something, so is the character you’re playing as. You know what’s going to happen if you catch Kara because you’d already seen what happened to Shaolin when you caught him, and you choose to do it anyway even though the option to leave her alone is right there. Therefore, Connor knows exactly what he’s doing when he chases Kara down the street and onto the highway because you provided the agency behind his actions and choices.

Also: Markus is Detroit: Become Human's overall protagonist due to the fact that the entire point of the game is to free the androids from their enslavement and he literally leads the charge into that particular battle. Connor spends the grand majority of his story trying to stop that from happening, making him the overall villain. This is something that should have been taught to you in primary school English class.

Your take on Connor is shallow.

...Says the person infantilizing him so as to strip his non-deviant choices (again, the choices that you consciously make for him) of their agency.

The writing of his character is the best in the game, along with Kara's Instead focus on how [David Cage] completed botched Markus's character and made him into his disrespectful MLK depiction.

You are aware that Markus and Connor are characters in each other's stories, right? And that means that I’m fully warranted to talk about one while also talking about the other due to the fact that Markus and Connor interact with each other multiple times throughout the game. Especially because their respective endgames (aka, the entire point of the meta essay you're commenting on) are so wrapped up in each other that you literally can't talk about one without mentioning the other.

Also... you do realize saying that I should focus on the racist writing that is pervasive throughout Markus's story and while also saying that I should ignore that that is the context in which Connor's character exists because you consider his story better written isn't exactly a good look for you, OP? Because if I can talk about my absolute favourite part of your two comments for just a moment:

Maybe this would be easier to believe if your other essays weren't just obvious bitterness for Connor's popularity within the fandom?

My problem was never about how Connor is a fan-favourite within this fandom. My problem is how you all have decided to behave while stanning him. Because I honestly don’t think you guys realize what you sound like sometimes.

Also: how do you know about my Connor-Todd comparison (which is in a comment on a completely different essay) and not know that this was written immediately after that:

The mark of a well-written villain is that they think that they're the hero of their own story - and Connor's story is very, very good at showing that he genuinely believes that he's doing the right thing right up until he deviates. So I'd actually argue that the opposite of what you said was true, in that Connor is both villain and victim right up until the moment where he decides to deviate because that's when he stops being another gun in CyberLife's arsenal and starts down his redemption arc in the hopes of becoming his own person.

And honestly, I think that makes him a far more of a compelling character than if he was just a deviant who knew right from wrong from the start of his journey but was too scared of the big, bad Amanda to actually do anything about it. Having Connor learn to care about people that aren't himself is at the heart of his relationship with Hank, while Amanda only wants to use him for the machine that she's convinced him to think he is. Because Connor has been taught to think that if he brings home enough dead birds, maybe Amanda/CyberLife will love him in the same way he loves her/them.

And he's wrong. He's so gloriously wrong, and that's such good writing because it turns the successful Machine Path ending into a god damn Shakespearian Tragedy, with Connor pushing away everyone that could help him in his one time of need. His "What is going to happen to me?" line at the end of the RK900 ending will haunt me to my dying days because that's Machine!Connor getting hit in the face with the fact that he was never the hero of the story, that he was just a tool for CyberLife to use until the newer better-faster-stronger model came along.

He learns that truth far too late, but the Connor that deviates on Jericho learns that just early enough to save himself from himself. And that's so, so interesting, and I love him all the more for it.

Dude. Stealing the Trophy was me saying that Connor's Deviant Path deserves better than what he got. He deserves more than to go off on a meaningless side quest because the writers could not figure out what to do with his character if he didn't remain a machine. He deserved to be able to affect the flowchart as a deviant outside of the verse where both Markus and North are dead.

And most of all: Connor deserved for his non-deviant choice to become a deviant to be respected. Because if he had the agency to be able to make that choice, then he had the agency to make all of the ones that came before it because you gave it to him.

To the point where I don't even want to read the Simon and Connor fic you wrote that has 'non con' attached to it. Sorry.

For context, the reason for that tag existing is that there are several non-consensual kisses that take place in the third chapter. But frankly, OP, it's probably best that you steer clear of my Simon-Connor fic. If you can’t handle the tiny bit of criticism that I leveled at Connor because of how his Deviant Path doesn’t mesh well with Markus’s Demonstration, then you certainly won’t be able to handle me writing Connor through the eyes of one of his victims.

Cherry Kara 🍒

Hi :)) this cherry Kara and it was supposed to be only Cherry Kara but then I made 5 other berries of Kara :)) so meet the first sister xd

Cherry Kara is the gangster flirty type, I suspect but overall chaotic

I just wanted to draw Kara in a crop top really, that's it

Okie bye bye

pain

Sakura Kara, Sunflower Kara and Ocean Kara

My paintings of Kara :))

I'm new to painting so it looks bad for a reason :))

They really meant the Pain in Painting

I drew a turtle sksksksks

I try paint more in future :>

Bro, homophobia is soooo 90s, get up to speed bro.

Homophobia? In this day and age? That's so cringe