Random Idea For Mutant Mashup: Red Might Be More Anxious About Being Left Alone Than Canon.
Random idea for Mutant Mashup: Red might be more anxious about being left alone than canon.
Canon Rise Raph had his bros, April, and his dad. A limited group of people, but that combined with the isolation meant that Raph only had his family as people he could trust. However, I think Raph got too reliant, being around his family to the point where if any of them leave Raph alone with his thoughts, he starts to panic.
I might be reading too far into this but that's just my reasoning for why Raph goes savage in Rise canon and I'll be extending that headcanon to Red in Mutant Mashup for now. Might change later.
The reason Red would be quicker to go savage when alone is because he has even more family which meant that Red was never really left alone. He was pulled in all directions by both his brother's and his cousin's and while he did have DaVinci there to shoulder some of the weight, at the end of the day Red didn't get a lot of time to himself. Red didn't mind that though and was happy to spend time with his family, he just needed to make sure that DaVinci was there to make sure nothing hurt the family while Red was gone.
Savage Raph in this au largely acts the same as in canon but calms down immensely once DaVinci inserts himself into the situation. Vin likes to keep clean and his wears his signature blue often so while Red won't recognize Vinnie immediately, he does recognize the color and feels safer as a result. LaceFace is still the main thing that snaps Red out of his savage mode.
I still want to think about this a bit more, not confident in enough with Red's reason to go savage mode when left alone. For now though, this is just an idea that doesn't have to be added into the Au rn.
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Glad you like the boi I had a fun time making him. The animal tamer theme was a small reference to Abel's original role in the bible, y'know a shepherd? (He herded sheep but shhh) The hoop for a head at first was to just to make him look different from Caine but I realized later that it could also be a reference to those hoops that big cats are trained to jump through in actual circuses. Believe it or not but if you pay attention, this Abel has the same heterochromia eyes Caine does just color flipped. One last thing about my version of Abel is that his relationship with Caine is a lot like responsible younger sibling and impulsive older sibling but both are the same level of chaotic silliness somehow.
I also like your Able too, he's a vengeful lil lad. But that's for a good reason so I understand why. Kinda wonder if Caine feels sorry or if the cast ever finds out. They'd be maaaad.
Would it be alright if I draw both our guys together?
The Amazing Digital Circus finally got to me....
With that said, allow me to introduce you to the circus's very own...
Animal Tamer!!

Abel!
Aka, my own personal take on the speculation surrounding C&A.
There's biblical imagery in TADC if you look for it, especially when it comes to our beloved Ringmaster himself, Caine, who's believed to be named after the first murderer in the bible. That paired with the C&A logo that briefly shows up has led people to believe that Caine had a brother named Abel.
This is just what I think Abel would look like if he does show up in the future or at all. I imagine Abel's an AI, like Caine, but is surprisingly emotionally intelligent and ran the program that allowed humans to leave the circus. (Slight reference to @fannele's version of Able) If we follow the pilot, then something happened to him, but since Caine was described to be a silly guy by @gooseworx themselves, I don't think he had anything to do with it. (If he did it might've been an accident.) The programmers might have potentially removed Abel or accidentally deleted him for some reason, we can't know for sure.
Those are just my thoughts on Abel and whether it's right or wrong, I don't really care. I just like how this guy came out! I'll be honest though, I probably should've chosen a better pose that convey's Abel's personality a bit more. That and he just generally looks like Caine but with a different outfit and a different head. He low-key looks like if Caine wanted a to wear a very slight Sonic themed outfit.
Idk, I guess I just subconsciously wanted Caine and Abel to be twins. (Darn it ninja turtles you have invaded my brain even now!!).
Anyways. That's just my take, hope you like!
I can't think of anything for my version of Able beyond just him having a gentler voice that's not as extravagant as Caine's. Maybe Caleb Hyles?
The Amazing Digital Circus finally got to me....
With that said, allow me to introduce you to the circus's very own...
Animal Tamer!!

Abel!
Aka, my own personal take on the speculation surrounding C&A.
There's biblical imagery in TADC if you look for it, especially when it comes to our beloved Ringmaster himself, Caine, who's believed to be named after the first murderer in the bible. That paired with the C&A logo that briefly shows up has led people to believe that Caine had a brother named Abel.
This is just what I think Abel would look like if he does show up in the future or at all. I imagine Abel's an AI, like Caine, but is surprisingly emotionally intelligent and ran the program that allowed humans to leave the circus. (Slight reference to @fannele's version of Able) If we follow the pilot, then something happened to him, but since Caine was described to be a silly guy by @gooseworx themselves, I don't think he had anything to do with it. (If he did it might've been an accident.) The programmers might have potentially removed Abel or accidentally deleted him for some reason, we can't know for sure.
Those are just my thoughts on Abel and whether it's right or wrong, I don't really care. I just like how this guy came out! I'll be honest though, I probably should've chosen a better pose that convey's Abel's personality a bit more. That and he just generally looks like Caine but with a different outfit and a different head. He low-key looks like if Caine wanted a to wear a very slight Sonic themed outfit.
Idk, I guess I just subconsciously wanted Caine and Abel to be twins. (Darn it ninja turtles you have invaded my brain even now!!).
Anyways. That's just my take, hope you like!
A short add on to this, but because of both Splinter's fighting, the turtles promised each other that there would be as much open communication between them as possible. They didn't want to hate each other when they grew up like their father's/uncle's.
Mutant Mashup thingy
(This has been sitting in my drafts for months rip-)
Since all the turtles and even the Splinters and Aprils grew up in a very different environment, they would obviously act a little different. So here’s my ideas on how.
Mutant Mashup AU by me and @sillyandquest
Oldest to youngest (as said here) DaVinci -> Red -> Sanzio -> Niccolo -> Purple -> Blue -> Simoni -> Orange
Both DaVinci and Red were the protectors. However, DaVinci was more offensive and Red as was more defensive. This was because Red had to worry about accidentally hurting people due to his strength and was pretty intimidating as is, but DaVinci didn’t. So DaVinci is slightly more trigger happy and Red looks for more peaceful situations. It’s not a major change, but if they meet their canon counterparts they’d quickly release the differences. This ties into Red’s mystic abilities too, as his holograms are more shield focused then in canon. Niccolo and Orange and holding their entire families together. As said here, Niccolo would help calm his siblings and cousins down when the Splinters fought, and Orange already had a complex about this in canon. Neither of them would be able to do this on their own (with how big their family is now) so they work together to keep everyone happy (even if they aren’t).
I’ve noticed the 2012 boys are big on teasing each other while the Rise boys are a lot softer to each other (minus Blue and Purple). So I’d imagine in this dynamic they’d both be in the middle ground of their canon dynamics. The Rise boys tease each other a lot more but are still softer then canon 2012, but the 2012 are softer to each other but still tease each other more then canon Rise.
Blue and Simoni and “the face team.” Which mean Blue taught Simoni some manipulation tactics. Simoni still gets tricked by 2012 Chris Bradford, but that was because he was star-struck. He’s actually a lot better at people then in canon. Also, Blue is a lot more insecure about himself because he doesn’t have his “face man” thing to himself and feels he has even less worth :(
Sanzio is slightly better at controlling his anger because Red is teaching him some things, though he’s still angry all the time. Also, he’s a little bit nicer to his little bros because they released that there’s 5 of them and one of him.
Purple also has more self worth issues then in canon because in there, he based his identity off being “the tech guy.” But here, there’s someone else that can do tech. Also, he usually gets put in the “safer” places during missions because Yoshi was overprotective of him because of his soft-shell, and all the 2012 boys (and even the Rise fam to an extent) followed. I could imagine an episode plot where he snapped and goes off to do something really dangerous to prove himself. Maybe going with the other brothers who get babied (Simoni and Orange)
Orange canonically does ballet (see the lair games ep) so I feel like I’m this AU Sanzio would be the kind of sibling/cousin-who’s-basically-a-sibling who would absolutely pummel anyone who bullies his siblings. Also I can see Orange and Simoni both doing ballet so when Simoni starts using his strings he moves around on them in a sort of “dance-y” way.
Since Lou let them sneak off to the surface before Yoshi was ready to let them go, I’d imagine DaVinci has an absolutely unreal amount of “Space Heroes” merch.
Since Simoni can be repelled by Poka, I can imagine Purple has an entire library of “Music genres my siblings/cousins-who-are-basically-siblings don’t like.” The labs were filled with Poka after Simoni activated his mystic powers
It's wild how many characters there are in the Mutant Mashup au. Here's a list, plus some extra thoughts.
Rottmnt:
Splinter (Lou Hamato)
Raphael "Red" Hamato
Donatello "Purple" Hamato
Leonardo "Blue" Hamato
Michaelangelo "Orange" Hamato
April O'Neil
Carol O'Neil
Cassandra Jones
Casey Jones Junior
"Gram Gram" Karai
Sunita
Piebald
Hueso
Todd Capybara
Baron Draxum
Warren & Hypnopotamus
Meat Sweats
Repo Mantis
Sando Brothers
Ghost Bear
Baxter Stockboy
Ms. Cuddles
Foot lieutenants
Kendra
Jeremy
Jason
Big Mama
BM's Assistant (Frida)
Heinous Green
Loathsome Leonard
Dastardly Danny
Malicious Mickey
2012:
Splinter (Yoshi Hamato)
Leonardo "DaVinci" Hamato
Raphael "Sanzio" Hamato
Donatello "Niccolo" Hamato
Michaelangelo "Simoni" Hamato
April "May" O'Neil
Kirby O'Neil
Casey Jones
Karai (Miwa)
Tang Shen
Bishop
Mr. Murakami
Oroku Saki (Shredder)
Bebop & Rocksteady
Tiger Claw (Takeshi)
Fish Legs (Xever)
Rahzar (Chris Bradford)
Baxter Stockman
Alopex
Mona Lisa (Y'gythba)
Leatherhead
Slash (Spike)
Pigeon Pete (Nobody likes/talks about him)
Professor Rockwell
Mondo Gecko
Muckman (Garson Grunge)
Timothy
I told you. It's pretty crazy. Anyway, these are almost every character that has ever interacted with the turtles whether significantly or not. Now that I'm looking at the list, I'm really blown away by how different these interactions are. It's awesome! Seriously, it looks like the the only things that stayed the same was the turtles, Splinter, April, Casey, Shredder, and Karai. The Kraang too but I'll talk about that in a second.
In the Au, Stockman might've gone to the store Stockboy works at and chatted about machines and whatnot. Tang Shen and Gram Gram Karai would also have gotten along pretty well I think (they share the same voice actor too so that's a nice touch). I don't think Draxum would've worked together with Shredder. Saki tends to boss others around and Draxum's pride wouldn't have liked that. It's possible that Shredder tricked Draxum into wearing the armor, but the chance of finally gaining the power necessary to achieve his goal would've been too good to pass up. Saki isn't above using enhancers as a last resort. He would've worn the Dark Armor on his own and become the 'Super' Shredder. One last thing to note is that technically speaking and looking back at Rise canon, the Hamato clan originally was a part of the foot clan. It's weird right?? The split happened when the leader of the Foot clan at the time wore the Dark Armor and went on a rampage. He had done so with the best of intentions but he couldn't control the armor's need to destroy. The man (who happens to also be called Oroku Saki, might name change in this au) had a daughter whose name was Karai. She would go on to create the Hamato clan and seal away the Shredder and herself. That's what happens in this Au at least and aligns closely with canon for the most part. 2012 didn't have much lore when it comes to the Hamato clan, aside from what happened to Tang Shen, so that's why I chose Rise canon as a building point.
Now the Krang is in a weird spot. In canon the 2012 Kraang are brainwashed by Kraang Prime with only a few that managed to break free of his control, calling themselves Utrom. Rise canon sees something similar to this in that the Krang are invaders that can take control of both machines and organic beings. Rise fans also know that Krang are actually the reason for Yokai in the first place through the Empyrean they brought and that they created the Dark Armor. In terms of the Au, the 2012 Kraang only want to free Krang Prime which is Rise Krang. (Brother and Sister Krang are also there but we don't see a lot of love for them so.) There were a few 2012 Kraang that decided to rebel and called themselves the Utrom. The creation of Yokai through the Empyrean and the banishment of Krang Prime and his siblings happened long ago, just like Rise canon.
No one really knows who sealed them away, time had eroded the knowledge away to the point of meaninglessness. There are definitely several legends about it that try to explain what exactly happened but it's never explained. Maybe it was the Utrom trying to atone for the sins of their past, or maybe, just maybe, it was a group of great warriors?
You have inspired me to make my own version of Abel! Prepare yourself for a mention in a post really soon. (I'm so sorry for the sudden repost I just REALLY like this idea)





⚠️TW⚠️: 🩸. I always wonder what would Abel/Able looks like in the amazing digital circus . So I made my version of able of what he looked like. I headcanon that Caine the the younger brother of able and my theory that Caine might k.o. His brother out of jealousy similar to the cain and Abel.
What’s is Caine hiding from them you can’t hide from the truth. Edit. Miss one glove.