A New One From Today. Targtower Siblings Dynamic Pre Rooks Rest.
A new one from today. Targtower siblings dynamic pre rooks rest.
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The northern girl. Winterfell’s daughter. We heard she killed the king with a spell, and afterward changed into a wolf with big leathery wings like a bat, and flew out a tower window.
Do you think the Faith of the Seven forbids divorce barring an annulment, like Catholicism, or is it more lenient in such matters from what we can see in the text?
Note that “divorce”, as a term, is never used throughout the main novels, the Tales of Dunk and Egg, or TWOIAF or F&B. The closest we as readers get to associating “divorce”, specifically, with the world of Westeros is a response from GRRM about the marriage of Doran and Mellario, in which the author says “divorce simply isn't common” in Westeros. Whether the author was trying to say that divorce, as a separate idea from annulment, exists in this world but perhaps not for Faith-worshiping Westerosi, or whether the author was simply equating divorce and annulment and commenting that ending a marriage in Westeros “simply isn’t common”, or whether GRRM meant something else entirely, is impossible to say.
Nor indeed do we have what I would call a complete idea of how Westeros operates with respect to ending marriages. Even if we leave aside the ironborn (with their tradition of hierarchical polygamy and Victarion’s horrific method of ending his last salt marriage) and the followers of the old gods (whose faith is far less formally structured than that of the Faith of the Seven), there still remain significant open questions about in what circumstances a marriage made under the Faith can be ended (and I’ll just use the very general wording of “ended”, to avoid the complications of trying to apply a distinction between “divorce” and “annulment” which may or may not exist in Westeros). A marriage made in the Faith can be legally ended for non-consummation, though that is clearly not the only grounds for doing so (as Tyrion and Tysha’s marriage was also legally ended despite the fact that they consummated it). How this process occurs, however - other than Tyrion’s vague reference to “the High Septon or a Council of Faith” putting aside a marriage, and the author’s own few words on annulments - remains mostly a question mark. Likewise, how each party could and would live following such a marriage ending is also mostly unknowable right now.
(All of this, moreover, is a separate discussion from marriages which appear to still exist, in a legal sense, but in which the spouses have physically and emotionally separated from one another - Doran and Mellario, for instance, or the periods of estrangement in the marriage of Jaehaerys and Alysanne. To what extent this process and the end result could be or is formally pursued and/or recognized in Westeros as a separate state from ordinary marriage, is again, an open question. There seems to have been no formal action taken by Alysanne or Mellario, much less their husbands, to request an acknowledgement from the Faith or any legal body that their respective marriages had changed or, at least for Mellario, essentially ended, but again, the information is thin at best.)
(I’m also not discussing those instances where both spouses remain alive, but the actions of one spouse result in that individual’s legal death and the effective widowing of the “surviving” spouse - a husband joining the Night’s Watch, for example, or a wife joining the silent sisters, a la Quentyn Ball.)
I definitely expect to get at least a little more discussion in TWOW on the practicalities of Westerosi annulments. However, because I think the best chance for us to learn more about this process is through Sansa’s remarriage to Harry Hardyng - and because I think Sansa’s marriage to Tyrion is going to be called void on the grounds that she and Tyrion never consummated it - I don’t know how much we can glean from that storyline about whatever extent Westeros acknowledges divorce versus annulment. Indeed, I doubt we’ll ever get the word “divorce” used in the novels; rather, I think any situation where a marriage is ended will be said to be an annulment, or a “putting aside”, of the marriage, rather than any modern concepts of divorce that we may have.
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Arya had her father's eyes, the grey eyes of the Starks. A girl her age might let her hair grow long, add inches to her height, see her chest fill out, but she could not change the color of her eyes. That's Sansa's little friend, the steward's girl. Jeyne, that was her name. Jeyne Poole.