You Did Something For Me That I Couldnt Do For Myself. You Loved Me For Who I Am

You did something for me that I couldn’t do for myself. You loved me for who I am

You should have seen the way he was looking at you. Like you were the ocean and he’s desperate to drown.

So, i am in a process of compiling reasons why Flash should get rid of WA - feel free to redact , add more and argue with any of the points below. 1. WA is incestous. This is a point that gets most of WAs reeling, because “Barry and Iris don’t see each other as brother and sister”. But.  Barry is adopted into West family after his mother dies and father is arrested, he grows up with Joe and Iris and calls Joe his dad (and the other way around), and they all call each other a family.  I agree, Barry and Iris never acknowledge each other as brother and sister, but Iris’s behavior throughout pretty much all of season 1 confirms she sees Barry only as her nerdy adoptive brother and a friend, but not as a potential boyfriend material.   As a comparison  : let’s take Alex and Kara from Supergirl. Would you call their pairing incest? I am sure you would. But it is almost exactly the same story as the WA - an orphaned child gets adopted by a family where an adoptive sibling becomes her best friend. The only difference is that Kara and Alex are both females (and yes, as of now Kara is positioned as straight- but judging by the longing looks she gives Lena Luthor, I bet she is a bi). 2. Barry’s obsession with Iris is unhealthy. It is rooted in his deep psychological trauma and loneliness, sort of a coping mechanism for the emotional bubble he ended up in after his mother’s death. He is very isolated when he grows up, and of course he focuses on Iris who is his only friend at that time - and one of a very few sources of emotional support. Once he hits puberty, his connection to Iris turns sexual (while Iris’s doesn’t). No matter how much you paint his obsession with Iris as cute or romantic or “true love”- it is not.  It is very unhealthy to be so focused on one person (for over a decade! ) that you are incapable of forming a long lasting healthy relationship with another. 3. It is forced. If Eddie hasn’t conveniently kicked the bucket in season 1, WA would not have happened (or would’ve, but much much later down the road).  The whole theory of WA being the true love is pushed on the viewers in form of constant verbal confirmations and “visions from the future” - which to me is not very convincing.   As a matter of fact, i find it rather disturbing that Iris only starts considering and convincing herself that she loves Barry after she is constantly pushed into it by Barry and Joe (also, I personally find Joe’s fetish shipping of two of his children appalling). She shows literally no sign of being interested in Barry right until she learns he is the Flash. She is also completely oblivious about his feelings (which i find very hard to believe, esp if they are supposed to be best friends- no one can be THAT blind, esp not a cops daughter and a talented journalist), OR, which i think is more likely- she simply ignores them because she doesn’t feel the same way. -> a side note- Iris’s “path” to being in love with Barry could’ve been done much more organically. Say, if Eddie didn’t die, but over the time Iris found herself more and more drawn to Barry, eventually breaking up with Eddie on her own accord. But i guess it’s too much to ask of the writers- they’d rather just throw the female character into a relationship cause who cares about her development anyway, right? 4. It brings out the worst in both Iris and Barry. True love and a perfect relationship should make both sides better, should push them to strive for excellence. But this is the opposite of what we got right after WA becomes canon: Barry immediately becomes OC and stops caring about pretty much anyone but Iris once he gets into her pants - but this is not the Barry we all fell in love with in season 1. Where is the compassion, where is the comraderie, where is the care he always displayed towards original Starlabs team? Same happens to Iris. As soon as there is a change of the wind towards WA, she becomes selfish and possessive. Remember that brief moment of mental clarity when Barry decided to try and get over his obsession with Iris? He even started wooing Lynda. But as soon as Iris felt she was loosing Barry’s attention she went on and screwed that relationship up. (And yes, she was verbally supportive of Barry’s relationships- but actions speak louder than words). As Killer Frost said- As long as you get what you want, it doesn’t matter who gets screwed in the process. And that’s true for both of them. 5. It lacks chemistry. This one is probably the most subjective, but for me, personally, WA doesn’t seem to have any romantic chemistry whatsoever. I can compare that to Westhawne that was cute and seemed very organic, or to Snowbarry, that is not yet canon but still sparks fly in every Caitlin-Barry scene, or even to Coldflash (Captain Cold and the Flash)- cause damn, even Captain Cold and Barry have more chemistry than the WA! I also can’t stop myself from comparing WA to other 2 “iconic” interracial relationships of my 2 fave shows- Bamon (Bonnie and Damon on Vampire Diaries) and Ichabbie (Ichabod and Abbie Mills on Sleepy Hollow), and when i do, WA loses every time.  Where Bamon is fireworks of chemistry, WA is a bland aggregation of romantic cliches; where Icchabie is a perfect example of friendship-turned-to-love and relationship pushing both sides to be better and stronger, WA is a toxic mess that forces both sides to make irrational and costly mistakes. And all that while WA is the only one that is canon. What a waste of opportunity. 6. It reduced Iris to a useless damsel in distress aka just a prompt for Barry’s storyline. Where is Iris’s character development? The moment WA got together, Iris lost all her autonomy and any hints of development. Where is the renown journalist Iris that got even Snart complimenting her? Where is an undercover investigator Iris who got a pulitzer prize for her writing? Where is all of that? Why is Iris reduced to being Barry’s girlfriend? She had so much potential, but now she is nothing more but a prop for Barry’s storyline. She constantly spends time in Starlabs, taking on duties usually done by other characters (esp Caitlin) - when she should be investigating and writing articles. I am not a big fan of Iris but this is just a waste of a potentially very interesting character, and i don’t understand how WAs can call themselves Iris  fans when they support such a degrading treatment of her by the writers.

(via antiwestallen)

This covers everything I could have ever possible said about West Allen and it is the most beatiful, useful thing I have read today.

It doesn't matter who hurt you, Or broke you don't What matters is who made you smile

2x14||3x07 Karamel forehead kissing parallels 😍😍

All the Things that are Still Wrong With WestAllen

The self-proclaimed gold standard couple of the Flash Tv Show is not as perfect as some people think. Though this pairing has a lot of flaws, I’ll be sticking to the ones that have either been reinforced or blatantly established in s04. These are all the things that are still wrong with WestAllen:

1. Their Entire Relationship Still Feels Like Incest:

Barry and Iris grew up in the same home and even though Joe never officially adopted Barry, he might as well have adopted him coz he keeps calling him his son. This has been my biggest issue with WestAllen, the writers of the show knew they wanted to make them the main couple and they still had them grow up as foster siblings. Plus, the fact that Joe can’t even stop talking about how he raised the both of them, even during the rehearsal dinner for their wedding, makes WestAllen give off a lot incestuous vibes.

2. Barry Still isn’t Completely Honest with Iris:

In 04x07, Barry believes Devoe is a villain but no one else believes him, not even Iris even though she keeps saying “we are the flash”. When Iris asks Barry to stop obsessing over the Devoes, he agrees with her and then goes behind her back to do some more digging until he gets busted. Barry should have been completely honest with Iris coz they were about get married in a week. Regardless, Barry is just too used to keeping things from her and this leads me to my next point:

3. Barry Still Can’t Confront Iris When she does Things he doesn’t Like:

In 04×03, Barry is really uncomfortable when Iris surprises him with her plan for them to elope. He gets even more uncomfortable when Iris is behaving in a really disrespectful way to the family that had just buried their dead but he doesn’t say anything bc he doesn’t want her to get upset just as he doesn’t say anything when she makes him attend couple’s therapy after telling him about the therapy session 30 minutes before their appointment. Even when Barry raises a protest from time to time, he just says a little bit of what’s on his mind and then fakes a smile to keep her happy and this is linked to my next point:

4. Iris Still Admires Other Men in front of Barry:

When Iris talks about how hot other men are right in front of Barry, he always raises an objection. He did so in 03×08 and 04×04 but you could tell he had a lot more to say on the matter but he had to let it go so it doesn’t turn into a big fight. This wouldn’t have been a problem if I was certain Iris wouldn’t flare up and get really upset if Barry had talked about any woman the way Iris casually talks about Oliver or Ralph Dibny. The double standard is just too clear and too ridiculous to ignore and it’s not the only ridiculous expection that Iris has placed on Barry and that takes me to my 5th point:

5. Iris Still Believes Barry Needs Her Permission before He Can Save the World:

04×02 showed a WestAllen that was ready to confront their problems by attending therapy but that entire therapy storyline ended after one episode and the couple basically ended up settling their squabble privately with a ridiculous request made by Iris West. She said Barry should’ve asked her what she thought about him leaving her to go and save the world and when he reassured her of his love, she said he can’t know what she’s thinking until he asks her thereby implying that next time they are in such a situation, Barry must ask her what she thinks before he does anything and that is so stupid coz decisions like this need to be taken swiftly. But unfortunately, Barry is always wrong and Iris is always right and that is literally my next point:

6. Barry is Always Wrong and Iris is Always Right:

Whenever I watch WestAllen’s storyline unfold, one thing is always clear to me - sometimes Barry is wrong and sometimes Iris is wrong but that’s not what either of them will ever say. Iris is always constantly pointing out anything Barry does wrong while conveniently absolving herself of any wrong doing and Barry just goes with it. The lopsided nature of this routine is just wrong and this would have been pointed out to Barry and Iris if they stayed in therapy for more than a day but they’re always in too much of a hurry to stick around for such things and that’s why my final point exists.

7. Their Entire Relationship is Extremely Rushed:

Barry and Iris moved from dating to engaged to married in the space of one season and a couple of episodes. Neeedless to say, their entire relationship is rushed and they’re getting deeper and deeper into it without taking out time to really talk about all the issues listed above and so some of these issues are either left unresolved or are never even brought up.

Conclusion:

Barry and Iris need to go back to therapy. They have some unresolved issues that just makes it hard to believe anyone that calls their relationship perfect.