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Stephen Deserves The World.

Mostly a 616 Stephen fan page, with future occasional guests. Doctor Doom stan 100%. Dabbler in roleplay and huge nerd.

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Completely Random Thought That Has No Relevance To My Page.

Completely random thought that has no relevance to my page.

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4 years ago

doomstrange fans RISE UP

YES. I will always rise to the occasion! Doomstrange is definitely my OTP for marvel. I love them too much 😩

They are such a power couple.

Doomstrange Fans RISE UP

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4 years ago
Of Course Stephen Had To Have His Dramatic Backstory Telling Moment While Staring Out A Window, Which

Of course Stephen had to have his dramatic backstory telling moment while staring out a window, which is probably the same one he’s told 1,000 times. I love him for his drama though

Though I really do enjoy his and Hank’s interaction. Although he was skeptical in the beginning about the workings of magic, calling it “cheating” and all, he eventually came around and even helped him solve a mystical problem. 👀 Open minds are just lovely. Definitely easier than getting Reed or Tony to do the same.

Of Course Stephen Had To Have His Dramatic Backstory Telling Moment While Staring Out A Window, Which
Of Course Stephen Had To Have His Dramatic Backstory Telling Moment While Staring Out A Window, Which

It’s always funny to watch someone watch Stephen getting flung around by “nothing” and being completely confused about it, though


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4 years ago

Hello! I love your blog very much! I’m sure this is a relevant topic to modern media seeing as WandaVision is so GOOD but, how would you describe Wanda’s relationship to Stephen in the comics? Has it been problematic or more like an actual friendship historically? When are some good examples of times he’s helped her out of sticky situations?? (Sorry it’s a lot! I’ve been trying to research but can’t find any good comic reading lists for the pair 😭)

Greetings, anon, and thank you for such kind words!

Concerning Wanda’s relationship to Stephen... I don’t believe it has ever been problematic, let alone more than actual friendship. Some people may disagree - and I’ve seen some discourse towards Stephen, especially coming from Wanda fans - but I understand where they came from: House of M.

I’m so done with House of M after so many years, and it’s understanble that it still haunts Wanda fans. They usually claim that Stephen is patronizing - and I won’t deny it. He can be patronizing sometimes, even though it’s a little bit off in House of M. He doesn’t use magic to subdue people. But it’s Bendis, who also presented us with fascistavengers and the Illuminati.

Now, back to more classic comics, Stephen is quite sweet towards Wanda. If you check Englehart’s The Vision and Scarlet Witch run, you’ll see a very regardful doctor taking care of his friend and patient, when Wanda was about to give birth to the twins by the first time. Also Stephen himself delivered the children (he shouldn’t be doing this, he’s a neurosurgeon but who cares at this point, am I right?)

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When it comes to magic, Wanda really admires Stephen’s power, while Stephen never doubted her mystic skills, to the point of offering mentorship to her. The only reason Wanda declined was because she was busy with her family and the Avengers, later becoming Agatha’s apprentice.

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They also fought Dracula together and shared a few adventures. In fact, Stephen 100% supported her magic abilities when Clea, Stephen and Wanda went to Hel in order to heal Thor from Thanos’ assault.

Whenever there’s a mystic conflict, Stephen, Wanda, Illyana, Jericho and Michael always come together to perform a powerful spell, as seen in Civil War II and Extraordinary X-Men #8, for instance. Besides, they also hang out at the Bar with no Doors.

Again, I can understand why people may dislike Stephen, but if they’re limited to House of  M or 10′s comics in which Stephen is portrayed as the ultimate jerk, I suppose they don’t get the character at all, let alone their relationship.

Lastly, to the list of good comics:

1 - Marvel Team-Up v1 Annual #5 2 - Marvel Team-Up v1 #125 3 - Doctor Strange - Master of the Mystic Arts #60 4 - Avengers v1 #240-241 5 - Vision and the Scarlet Witch #4; #6; #11-12 6 - Doctor Strange - Sorcerer Supreme #35 7 - West Coast Avengers #79 8 - Doctor Strange - Sorcerer Supreme #46-47 9 - Darkhold #5-7 10 - Secret Defenders #6-8 11 - Doctor Strange v4 #1-10 (after Empirikul’s assault on Earth’s sorcerers) 12 - Doctor Strange v5 - Annual #1

Warning: If you value their relationship, do not go anywhere near the following issues ->

Empyre: X-Men #1; #4, Avengers v1 #503 and House of M #1-8.

Personally, I really dislike Empyre: X-Men for several reasons, and that includes the way Stephen treats Wanda. Avengers #503 is a House of M tie-in, which explains it all.

PS: I’m gathering team-ups with many characters for quite some time now and I intend to put it together soon. And Wanda is one of them, so stay tuned!

And that’s it! Oh, and there’s no need to apologize, it’s always an honor! I hope you find the list helpful!

4 years ago

No, seriously. I dare say that Triumph and Torment is the most important story in all Victor’s chronology and I’m so glad Stephen is an essential part of it. Hear me out.

Cynthia von Doom is the last connection to Victor’s humanity. She’s the only person capable of lifting Victor’s ability to love. She’s the only person Victor loved in a non-twisted way. And Stephen saw it all. He knows Victor is able to love. And I cannot stress enough how important this story is to their relationship, in both POVs.

It’s important to Stephen because he learned that Doom is not that ruthless, merciless tyrant that the whole world believes him to be. And Stephen, as a doctor and the Sorcerer Supreme, will always fight to bring the best in people and heal them in all possible ways. Imagine his surprise to learn that Victor also has the ability to love and cry, to feel and be vulnerable. He witnessed a miracle. Stephen knows Victor can be healed.

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On the other hand, it’s important to Victor because he doesn’t really care about people and his love is usually very unhealthy. Yes, he loves Reed, he loves Namor, he loves Valeria (her ex, not Reed’s daughter. But that too). Yet, he always finds a way to corrupt this love by betraying them out of rage and pain and jealousy. But Stephen? Stephen wasn’t important to him until the moment they went to Hell and fought Mephisto side by side. Certainly, Victor would despise Stephen for seeing his vulnerability. But he doesn’t feel that way. And that’s because Stephen found a way to guide Cynthia’s soul to Heaven. Stephen freed Cynthia from Mephisto, which was Victor’s most precious dream. Do you see it? His last connection to love is forever linked to Stephen. Victor could not hate Stephen. Their quest is deeply rooted in love. True love.

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To think that the only reason Victor fights Stephen sometimes is because they have conflicting agendas. But most of the time, they respect each other so much and it’s all thanks to T&T… Yes, maybe Doomstrange is not as popular as other ships and they rarely interact, but just take a look at their relationship throughout the years.

Stephen saved Victor after Thanos shattered Victor’s body and soul. He could have left Victor to die and the world would be finally free from his tyranny. But he didn’t. In return, Victor saluted him and said he was at his disposal. How many times did the Doctor Doom say that to anyone? I’ll tell you. One. And that one is Stephen.

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I write this all the time but Stephen and Victor literaly build a world together. Yes, I’m aware that Victor murdered Stephen, but from that moment on, he never stopped falling. It was the turning point because Stephen was his last connection to his humanity, just like Cynthia was. When Victor lost Stephen, he became all alone and adrift again.

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And when Secret Wars was over and Victor decided to change, Stephen was there to support him. No one believed Victor but Stephen. He was able to see through Victor’s ego and pride, he knows what makes Victor pleased. He knows he likes green. That’s how much Stephen cares for Victor.

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In return, Victor gave Stephen what no one on Earth has. He gave Stephen his trust, to the point of never questioning Stephen’s actions. He knows Stephen well enough to believe he’ll always be up to good deeds.

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And let me tell you something. Victor cannot afford losing Stephen again. That’s why he won’t let Stephen die. That’s how much Victor cares for Stephen.

No, Seriously. I Dare Say That Triumph And Torment Is The Most Important Story In All Victors Chronology

Again, I know they rarely interact in canon. Many characters are way more important to Victor’s chronology. The Fantastic Four, Namor, T’Challa, Tony. But their background? Unique. And very, very, very special.

Stephen is the only one who is truly capable of bringing Victor’s best side into light. And more importantly, Victor allows it the best he can. It really feels like Stephen is slowly taking Victor’s armor off, piece by piece, patiently and carefully. It sounds impossible but the Sorcerer Supreme is all about miracles, after all.

No, Seriously. I Dare Say That Triumph And Torment Is The Most Important Story In All Victors Chronology