Hot Take But I Genuinely Dont Believe You Can Truly Understand Nats Character Without At Least Acknowledging

hot take but i genuinely don’t believe you can truly understand nat’s character without at least acknowledging the importance of her and travis’s relationship. they loved and depended on each other. they kept each other alive, fed each other, kept each other sane. you can hate on travis and travnat for whatever reason you want, but to say she never even cared about him or dismiss how important he was to her just because you hate men is a little crazy.

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IN DEFENSE OF TRAVIS MARTINEZ:

Because I’m sick and tired of seeing travis hate everywhere I go.

“Travis was sexist.”

Did he spout some sexist rhetoric in the beginning of the show? Sure. But it’s important to recognize that: A) he changed, and by season 2 he completely stopped, B) he was a teenage boy in the 1990s, and that kind of rhetoric was normal at the time, C) most of his sexist macho tough guy attitude was a complete act that he likely put on to compensate for his insecurity about his own masculinity, and internalized homophobia. (More on that later.)

(Also let’s be real, Travis is basically one of the girls anyway and I’m tired of pretending he’s not.)

2. “Travis didn’t care about Javi.”

Did we watch the same show??? Granted Travis may have had trouble expressing his feelings (also related to his insecurities about masculinity, likely learned from his father, as well as growing up in a patriarchal and homophobic society), but he cared deeply about Javi. In S1E4, Travis literally DUG UP HIS DAD’S GRAVE, through horror, tears, and vomit, in order to retrieve his ring to give to Javi. When Javi disappeared, Travis kept looking for him every day for months, and never gave up, even when logically it would have seemed impossible for him to still be alive. He comforted and reassured Javi when neither of them drew the card. He cradled Javi’s dead body and ate a bite of his raw heart (which was a metaphor for how much he loved him, and a parallel to Shauna eating Jackie’s raw ear.) Maybe Travis wasn’t always there for Javi in the way he needed, but he absolutely loved him, and it’s important to remember that Travis was also a traumatized, grieving, kid who just lost his dad.

3. “Travis slut-shamed Nat.”

As we are literally shown in the show, Travis was not trying to slut shame her, he asked how many times she had done it because he was embarrassed about the fact that he was a virgin, and worried that she would judge him, or that he wouldn’t measure up because he was more inexperienced than her. When she told him she hooked up with Bobby Farleigh, he did not get mad at her because she slept with another guy (he already knew about that, and was fine with it), he got mad because she hooked up with his bully, and then lied to him about it. I don’t blame Nat for this, she didn’t know about it at the time, and didn’t want him to get mad once she found out, but I also don’t blame Travis for being hurt and embarrassed and upset with her for lying about it.

4. “Travis was just kind of a dick.”

Sure, but so were all of them. He acted like kind of a jerk in the first season. So what? Shauna had an affair with her best friend’s boyfriend, lied to her about it for months, and refused to apologize. Misty tried to drug Coach Ben. Nat faked his brother’s death to him (yeah, she was trying to help him move on, but still not cool). All of them called him “Flex” (y’know, the nickname that was used to bully him for years). None of them are perfect or nice or likable all the time, and that’s ok; that’s the whole point. They’re realistic, complex, flawed, morally gray and sometimes unlikable people. They’ve all done bad things, but nothing Travis did is worse than what anyone else on that show has done. He was a traumatized teen whose dad literally just died. Also, me personally, if everyone around me was constantly calling me the mean nickname that was used to bully me since middle school, I would also probably act like a little bit of a dick.

5. “Travis is a straight man.”

Wrong. (Also not really a valid reason to hate someone… But most importantly, just wrong.)

Travis Martinez is clearly a bisexual.

So many of his issues: the insecurity, the bullying, the macho tough guy act, the whole weird complex about his masculinity, all of it stems (at least partly) from the fact that he’s bisexual and has internalized homophobia. The whole “Flex” thing is just thinly veiled homophobia. The main reason why he got bullied is because Bobby Farleigh spread a rumor about him getting back surgery to better suck his own dick. The unsaid implication there is that he’s a man who sucks dick, which is inherently queer, even if it is his own. If you look even slightly past the most surface level interpretation, it’s pretty obvious that Travis was bullied because of homophobia. His performance of stereotypical toxic masculinity was clearly over compensation for the fact that he doesn’t fit into the box of traditional straight masculinity, and was a reaction to the bullying from his peers, abuse from his dad, and internalized homophobia from growing up in a homophobic and patriarchal society. As the show progresses he starts to unlearn that toxic masculinity and internalized homophobia, and he allows himself to be more vulnerable, emotional, and feminine, and as a result, he becomes stronger, more confident, and more respectful of the people around him.

As for Travis being a man… Is he though???

In season 1, Travis is a man (narratively speaking); there is a clear distinction between Travis/Coach Ben and the girls. However, in season 2, we see a stark shift in how Travis is depicted. The separation between Travis and the girls pretty much ceases to exist. Narratively speaking, there is no distinction made between Travis and the other girls; they are one entity—one hive mind. Instead, the emphasis is now placed on the distinction between Coach Ben and the girls/Travis. When Coach Ben watches the Yellowjackets eat Jackie in horror and disbelief, Travis is right there with them, dressed in ancient greek robes along with the rest of them. In season 2, Coach Ben is the only real Man of the group (Travis has narratively become one of the girls, and Javi is just a boy, not a man) and he is shown staying separate from the rest of the group, and growing more and more uncomfortable with the cultish dynamics, while Travis, on the other hand, becomes more and more integrated with the group, as he falls deeper and deeper into cult beliefs, until he is a full-blown devout Lottie worshipper. Of the three males on the show, he is the only one who actually participates in cannibalism with the other Yellowjackets. Also he lost his virginity to a lesbian.

Whether or not you choose to believe that Travis is transfem (I do) you cannot deny that, at least narratively speaking, Travis is literally just a girl.

6. Travis is a victim.

I don’t know why nobody in this fandom seems to acknowledge this, but Travis is a sexual assault victim and I’m tired of people constantly overlooking and ignoring that fact. In Doomcoming, the girls (excluding Jackie and Nat) chased him down, sexually assaulted him, and then tried to kill him. That’s not something that’s up for debate or denial, that is literally canon. Stop pretending it didn’t happen. Stop pretending it wasn’t assault. Stop shaming him and making fun of him for struggling with sex, or not always being able to get it up. That’s a normal trauma response after being assaulted/raped. You guys are literally proving the point. This kind of treatment from society towards masculinity and male victims is just playing into the patriarchy and toxic masculinity, and is exactly what made him act the way he did in season 1 in the first place!

love is a gentle thing (yours is thicker than a velvet ring)

Lottie sniffles, her entire body shaking. She thinks of the idea of hands running all over her body, lips trailing over her jaw, and a wave of nausea hits her.

“I’m fine,” she croaks, “I’m fine.”

They're both silent momentarily before Nat carefully and gently takes hold of Lottie’s hand. She moves slowly, allowing Lottie time to pull away if she’s still feeling uncomfortable. Tenderly, Nat places a kiss on Lottie’s knuckles, gently rubbing at her hand with her thumb.

“You know we don’t have to do anything, right?”

Embarrassment floods through Lottie. She hates it—hates how different she feels at this moment. Normal girls don’t get so scared when they’re about to sleep with their girlfriends for the first time. Normal girls don’t cry and feel sick when faced with the idea of having sex. Normal girls don’t do any of this, and it makes Lottie feel incredibly sick to her stomach. Regardless, she nods slowly before muttering, “I know.”

or

Lottie has never enjoyed sex. Ever since her first experience, she didn’t find any of it appealing. After starting to date Nat, she finds that she’s enjoying having a relationship without sex. However, a conversation with Allie makes Lottie paranoid about disappointing Nat, and soon enough, Lottie is making discoveries about herself with the help of her girlfriend.

3k words of self indulgent modern teen ace4ace lottienat hurt/comfort :]

–

Lottie lies comfortably on the couch, cuddled under a blanket with her girlfriend, Natalie. Some movie Nat had picked was playing, but in all honesty, Lottie was more focused on watching Nat throughout the film’s runtime. She gently threads her fingers through Nat’s hair, smiling at the content sigh that escapes Nat’s lips.

“Nat,” she whispers, “Natalie. Are you awake?”

Nat mumbles incoherently. She nestles into Lottie’s neck; Lottie’s heart soars in adoration.

“We should probably go to bed now. We have practice at, like, eight,” Lottie states. Nat emits a soft, muffled groan as she buries her face even further into Lottie's neck, prompting Lottie to stifle a silent laugh.

"Don't wanna go," she sleepily mutters, and her warm breath gently tickles Lottie's neck. Lottie can't help but smile at the sensation, leaning in to place a tender kiss on Nat's forehead. "I just wanna hang out with you..."

"I understand," Lottie sighs softly, "but we'll have fun playing and spending time with our friends."

"And Allie," Nat grumbles, "I don't like her."

Nat’s annoyed remark elicits a snort from Lottie. She'd be horrified if it were anybody else, but it was Nat—her girlfriend, her love. Lottie couldn't help but break into the most radiant and joyous smiles whenever she was around. That's the effect she had on her.

“I don’t either,” Lottie confesses hesitantly, “But I like soccer. And I know you do, too. So let’s go lay down, yeah? Get some rest?”

“Fine,” Nat drawls as she sits up. Lottie instantly misses the warmth she provided—that, and the blanket that Nat has wrapped around her entire body as a cape. Lottie huffs out a laugh, pretending to be upset.

“You really gonna just take my blanket in my house? I see how it is, Scatorccio.”

Nat smirks at her. In one swift motion, she grabs Lottie by the wrist and pulls her close, standing on tiptoe to press a chaste kiss to Lottie’s lips. She wraps part of the blanket around Lottie. Lottie makes a muffled noise of surprise but laughs as soon as Nat pulls away. She places her hands around Nat’s hips, pulling her in for another kiss.

“Dork,” she says, and the two move to retire to Lottie’s bedroom for the night.

–

Lottie didn’t like Allie for a number of reasons. One was that she was trying far too hard to befriend the taller and older girl for obviously shallow reasons. Allie wanted popularity and shopping sprees, so she was committed to becoming ‘besties’ with Lottie. Another was that she seemed to talk bad about certain teammates behind their backs or even right before them. Allie wasn’t exactly the sharpest tool in the shed. Allie was young and still had lots of room to improve, yet she acted like she was society's greatest gift to the sport of soccer. Add an annoying personality on top of all this, and you have the perfect equation for being somebody Lottie did not like.

Today, however, Lottie was reminded how much she truly disliked Allie. The team was all practicing when Coach Scott, who was taking over due to Coach Martinez having a family emergency, decided to pair them up himself. And, of course, Lottie was paired with Allie. Ever since finding out Lottie and Nat were dating, Allie was overcompensating for all the times she badmouthed Nat by being exceedingly interested in their relationship with Lottie. Not even an apology for Nat. Great.

“So,” Allie starts, passing the ball back and forth between herself and Lottie, “How are you and Nat?”

Oh god, Lottie thinks to herself, here we go. Allie always found new, more invasive questions to ask every time Lottie talked to her. It would be impressive if not for the sheer uncomfortableness of it all.

“Good,” Lottie says ambiguously. “Really good, actually. We had a sleepover last night,” she makes the mistake of saying with a smile. Allie’s eyes widened, and she wiggled her eyebrows at Lottie suggestively. Instantly, a pit formed in Lottie’s stomach.

“Scandalous,” Allie says with a wink, and yeah, Lottie definitely hates this.

“Not- not like that! She just slept over, and we watched a movie!”

Allie’s face falls slightly, and she looks surprised. Lottie’s almost certain it’s because of all of the rumors about Nat’s sex life, but before she can tell her off, Allie’s asking another horrifically inappropriate question.

“You guys have had sex before, though, right?”

Lottie's cheeks turned crimson, and warmth spread through her, but it was a different sensation than when she was with Nat. With Nat, it felt like a swarm of butterflies dancing in the summer breeze, bringing a sense of reassurance. However, now it felt more like she was engulfed in flames rather than peacefully sunbathing. She was on the verge of telling her teammate to be quiet, but Allie seemed to mistake her stunned and embarrassed expression for a negative response.

“Oh my god, you haven't, have you?”

“I-”

“I’m so sorry, that must suck! Man, how could you even know if the relationship would work? Plus, that’s, like, the whole point of a relationship, too! I mean-”

“Alright Girls!” Coach Scott calls, “Time for a practice game.”

–

Lottie does not score a single goal throughout the entire practice scrimmage. In fact, she almost trips over the ball quite a few times. She misses many passes and easy shots. She notices everyone looking at her funny, but despite her best efforts, she cannot focus.

She’s the first to make it to the locker room, changing as quickly as humanly possible. She’s about to run off and hide in her car when she feels a tug on her sleeve. She turns, finding Nat looking at her with a questioning glint in her eyes. Lottie simply shakes her head, indicating that she’ll discuss it later. Nat nods before making a critical mistake.

“Hey, do you mind if I stay the night again?”

Their teammates hear, obviously. How could they not? Nat wasn’t exactly whispering. Immediately, her fellow soccer players are wolf-whistling and making stupid jokes. Lottie feels her whole body light aflame. Meanwhile, Nat rolls her eyes and flips them all off. She drags Lottie off to Lottie’s car, and the two drive to her house in an awkward, uncomfortable silence.

–

Later that night, all Lottie could think about was what Allie had said and the jokes everybody had made. Because, loathe as she did to admit it, Allie was right. Sex was one of the main points of a relationship. No wonder everyone made those dumb jokes after Nat asked to sleep over. It was the most logical course of action. Nat had yet to tell her she wanted to move on to the next step of their relationship, but she had to have been getting annoyed. Anybody in her position would be.

Lottie had always known she was not like her peers. She was no stranger to feeling different. Lottie struggled with saying the right things at the right times and saw and heard things that weren't there. On top of that, as she grew older and learned about the topic of intercourse, she found that the idea both terrified and disgusted her.

She never outwardly shared her concerns due to the amount of people being bullied for being virgins or for not wanting to have sex. Instead, she merely stomached the awful feelings that intercourse gave her whenever she was in a relationship. She figured that, maybe, she had just exclusively had partners who were terrible in bed. But, despite knowing that she loved Nat and that Nat would always consider her comfort first and foremost, she couldn’t deny the simple fact. She didn't want to have sex with Nat. She didn’t want to ruin their relationship, and she had been so focused on how happy she had been that she hadn’t even considered how fed up Nat must have felt.

Lottie swallows anxiously. She hadn’t been able to focus on her homework at all. Nat was working on some English assignment on the bed beside her while Lottie stared at her blank sheet of paper. No matter how hard she tried, she couldn’t get over this feeling that Allie was right, that she had to make sure Nat wasn’t fed up with her already. Lottie took a deep breath and made a (in hindsight, foolish) decision.

Lottie garners Nat's attention by calling her name. Then, Lottie scoots closer and holds Nat’s face in her hands before pulling her into a passionate kiss. Nat hums in surprise, moving to wrap her arms around Lottie’s waist. Lottie feels sick. She tries to combat the feeling by pushing herself harder. She pulls away, climbing into Nat’s lap. She doesn’t notice the confused look on Nat’s face, only her own sheer and utter discomfort. Nat lies against the bed and carefully places her hands on Lottie’s hips.

It’s too much. It’s all too much.

Lottie leans back suddenly, pushing Nat backward. She protectively wraps her arms around her torso. She sits on the opposite side of Nat, hoping to find comfort in the physical distance she has created, but she finds none. With tears threatening to fall from Lottie’s face, Nat sits up, her brow knit together in concern.

“Lottie- Hey, Lott, are you okay?”

Lottie sniffles, her entire body shaking. She thinks of the idea of hands running all over her body, lips trailing over her jaw, and a wave of nausea hits her.

“I’m fine,” she croaks, “I’m fine.”

They're both silent momentarily before Nat carefully and gently takes hold of Lottie’s hand. She moves slowly, allowing Lottie time to pull away if she’s still feeling uncomfortable. Tenderly, Nat places a kiss on Lottie’s knuckles, gently rubbing at her hand with her thumb.

“You know we don’t have to do anything, right?”

Embarrassment floods through Lottie. She hates it—hates how different she feels at this moment. Normal girls don’t get so scared when they’re about to sleep with their girlfriends for the first time. Normal girls don’t cry and feel sick when faced with the idea of having sex. Normal girls don’t do any of this, and it makes Lottie feel incredibly sick to her stomach. Regardless, she nods slowly before muttering, “I know.”

“Come on, Lott,” Nat gently rasps, “I know something’s wrong—something bigger. Talk to me.”

Lottie groans in frustration, some tears leaking from her eyes. She refuses to look at her girlfriend, far too anxious and upset with herself.

“I can’t do this,” she eventually settles on. “I just can’t.”

“You don’t have to, Lottie. Nobody is forcing you.”

Lottie huffs. “I know I don't have to do anything now, but eventually, you're going to want more!”

“Lottie,” Nat starts, “Hey, look at me.”

Lottie can’t bring herself to do it. She knows Nat will be nice about the whole situation, but Lottie can’t stomach the fact that she’s failed. Nat sighs silently, not disappointed, just sad. She places a tender kiss on Lottie’s forehead before continuing.

“I don’t care if we have sex or not.”

“But-”

“I don’t even want to have sex with you, Lott.”

…what?

“I mean- uhm, okay, that came out wrong…I’m asexual, Lottie. And I sorta get the feeling that you might be, too.”

Lottie blinks—once, then twice. She sniffles and wipes at her eyes. Then, after taking a deep, deep breath, Lottie finally looks at Nat. She expects a humorous expression to be on her face, for her to say that she’s messing with her and that this is the end of their relationship. Instead, she’s met with a soft look that Nat has reserved only for her girlfriend. She’s smiling, sure, but it's much more reassuring than mocking.

“...what are you talking about?” Lottie eventually asks, genuinely confused at the response she has gotten. Nat gently rubs her hand with her thumb. She presses a kiss on Lottie’s knuckles before continuing.

“My sexuality; I’m asexual. Do you know what that means?” Nat asks softly. Lottie shakes her head, wiping away a few stray tears. Nat smiles up at her.

“Basically, I don’t get sexual feelings, like, at all. Sex just…doesn’t interest me. There's a lot of different kinds of asexuality. Some people, like me, don't necessarily mind sex but don't actively enjoy it either. Then, there’s others who enjoy it, and others who are very uncomfortable with it.”

Lottie nods, tears drying from her face. Nat looks at her with so much love and adoration before asking, “Does that make any sense?”

“I think I’m- I’m that,” Lottie stutters, “Sex-repulsed.”

“That’s totally okay, Lottie. I don’t mind at all. Like I said before, no one is forcing you to do anything you don’t want to. I’ve sorta had a feeling you might’ve been for a while, now, anyway.”

“What?” Lottie asks, “How- how would you have known?”

Nat shrugs, humming silently, before saying, “Just a hunch. Usually, by now in a relationship, a partner would’ve asked about having sex and boundaries. I got the idea when you never mentioned it or seemed interested.”

“Oh,” Lottie murmurs, sort of overwhelmed by all the information she’s gained in the past few minutes. Nat seems to notice, holding Lottie’s face in her hands. She peppers her face with soft, chaste kisses and mutters words of reassurance. Lottie feels tears forming again but lets them fall without a fight this time. Lottie allows herself to feel her emotions and spends the rest of the night cradled in Nat’s arms.

–

The following day, Lottie awakes to the smell of burning food and the absence of Nat lying with her. She stretches before climbing out of bed and pulling on a sweater. Walking down the staircase, Lottie hears the siren song of Nat profusely swearing. She chuckles under her breath before making her way to the kitchen. Once there, she sees Nat desperately trying to save some food from being completely inedible. Lottie smiles at the sight, wrapping her arms around Nat’s waist and placing her chin on Nat’s head.

“Morning,” Lottie says, “Whatcha making?”

“Pancakes,” Nat replies, “Or- well…trying to.”

Lottie grins, raising an eyebrow. “Seems more like you're making a mess to me…”

Nat pauses, turning the stove off. Lottie stands there silently, slightly confused as to what is happening. Then, Nat puts down her spatula, turns around, and starts mercilessly tickling Lottie, who simply stands there and laughs. Lottie nearly falls over, bringing Nat down with her—the two fall in a heap on the floor, where Nat still doesn’t let up. Laughter echoes throughout the kitchen, their burning breakfast long forgotten.

After a while, Nat lets Lottie breathe, pressing a kiss to her lips. She smirks over at her.

“What are you doing trying to cook?”

“Well, first of all, I am cooking. Second of all, I knew that yesterday was hard for you, so, uh, I wanted to do something nice.”

Lottie falls even more in love. Still, she can’t give up an opportunity to tease her girlfriend.

“Babe, it’s only cooking if you succeed.”

“Fuck off,” Nat chuckles, “Don’t talk shit when you can’t make anything either.”

Then, Nat’s eyes soften, and she breathes a heavy sigh.

“What happened yesterday?” she asks, “You never seemed worried about us having sex before. Did something…like, happen?”

Lottie’s cheeks flush, remembering what Allie said to her. She nods slowly, embarrassed about the entire situation. Nat’s eyes darken, and she presses Lottie to go on with her gaze.

“Allie was being weird and invasive. Found out we haven’t…y’know, and, like, said it was terrible. It just made me nervous, I guess. I didn’t want to disappoint you,” Lottie sighs, frowning deeply. Nat frowns at this, too, brow furrowing.

“I hate her,” Nat says after a long pause. Lottie snorts, and Nat’s smirking now, but she continues, saying, “No, seriously. I hate that bitch. It’s none of her business what we do or don’t do in our relationship. Plus, I hate that she made you feel like you had to do anything. That’s fucking stupid.”

“Yeah,” Lottie agrees. She grins over at Nat, reaching over to ruffle her already-tousled hair. Nat laughs, a real, hearty laugh, and smacks Lottie’s hand away. Then, Nat seems to remember the food she was trying (and failing) to make and stands up. She holds a hand out to Lottie, helping her up.

Nat returns to her terribly burnt pancakes while Lottie whisks some eggs together. While they work, Nat asks Lottie, “Do you think you want to tell anybody?”

Lottie pauses for a minute, thinking. Did she want to tell anybody? Sure, it wasn’t necessary, but avoiding weird jokes about them together would be nice.

“I think I do,” she says, “Is…uh., is that okay with you?”

Nat snorts from the stovetop, looking over to Lottie incredulously.

“If I weren’t, would I ask if you wanted to tell people?”

Lottie blushes before muttering, “Fair point.”

They continue cooking, brainstorming who to tell and how. Nat suggests starting with only a few people, and Lottie thinks that sounds pretty good. They decide to tell only their close friends, who they’re sure will have a positive response. Then, as Lottie grows more comfortable with her identity, she can publicly come out if she chooses. They also decide to tell them at the next “team-bonding exercise” set up by Jackie because, really, those meetings were just an excuse to hang out with her friends. Lottie was almost certain Jackie always “forgot” to invite their other teammates on purpose.

Once they finish making their breakfast, it turns out atrociously. Everything is burnt or overcooked, and it all has a strange flavor. Lottie and Nat have to order takeout because it's so horrible. There was a huge mess in the kitchen to clean, and their food was practically inedible, yet Lottie found that spending time like this with Nat was something she could do for an eternity.

FUTCH TRAVIS ENJOYERS RISE 🗣️🗣️🗣️ !!!

I feel like once Travis accepts she’s transfem she’d be a butch lesbian. Hear me out, she isn’t okay with male masculinity but with female masculinity it’s different in a way for her

and you’re so right. she/her mixture of femme and butch (can’t remember what the term is rn lol) transfem lesbian travis my beloved