Everyone Blames Him For Stuff That Is Literally Out Of Control When Other People Were Doing Much Worse

Everyone blames him for stuff that is literally out of control when other people were doing much worse (daisy) and he literally hated what he was becoming.

Elias literally manipulated so much just to turn Jon into an avatar for his personal gain and everyone hated him for that too like he didn't ask to become some 'monster' and he genuinely had little control over his actions he was facing addiction and everyone continued to villainize him

I feel like the way some of the fandom treats Jon is unfair and tbh borderline ableist. It's not his fault that he got hooked on statements by Elias/Jonah, it's very clear that he was being manipulated into it from the beginning. And even once he starts having to take live statements, he doesn't want to have to! He canonically hates that he has to do that to people for sustenance, but that compulsion isn't within his control.

Like c'mon. It's very heavily implied that he becomes genuinely suicidal because of his self-loathing around this, and how the other people around him are treating him like a monster and demanding he "just control" something that he isn't actually able to. Which isn't to say that Basira/Melanie/Georgie/s5!Martin etc. don't have the right to feel that way/that their responses aren't understandable, but they still aren't fair to Jon.

Jon's existence such as it is might not be fair, because his presence does harm others unintentionally. But sometimes that's how things are, and it's equally if not more unfair for the others to act like he's just a monster who should be put down and is selfish for continuing to want to live and be healthy.

Honestly, it sort of feels like some of the fandom has ignored/forgotten that the situation Jon is in isn't unique to a horror story, and in fact has many parallels in real life (whether that be addiction, mental disorder/disability, trauma, etc.) and that to take the view of "well he should've just Not Done That Stuff, skill issue, anyways you can't blame the others for how they treated him" is not exactly going to make actual people who are/have been in situations like that feel welcome in fandom spaces.

🗣️ (but no pressure)

I yea. Agree! I feel you can definitely have a discussion abt how much control Jon has over his actions, but at the end of the day, Jon has been manipulated to hell and back. But I also feel that a lot of it comes from a place of 'If I was in his situation I wouldnt do that' which has some victim blaming undertones, but also hes a fictional character in a fictional setting, which definitely influences how ppl talk abt him. If someone irl talked abt being abused and manipulated, along with having their addiction/disability taken advantage of, even if that same person would go on and on abt how 'The persons actually fine and its my fault' ppl likely would be very kind and take the situation very srsly, which isnt the same kind of reaction ppl have towards Jon, due to him being a fictional character - rosette

yeah i. heavily agree with this too anon. im way too tired to put any true thought into this like rosette did but yeah. people really dont take jons situation serious, and this extends to other characters in the series as well. the fandom doesn't often think further about avatars past 'haha they have to serve a dread power and they cant do anything about it' . - deceit

For the next season I want Gwen to slowly figure out that she is so out of her depth that she one day desperately goes to Lena's house to try to get some advice and Lena opens the door with the messiest hair, in a bathrobe and mismatching socks, holding a cat in one hand and a bag of chips in the other, 15 cats running around her feet and reruns of grey's anatomy playing in the background

Oh my God this is amazing

The tma entities and some ships as the crane wives songs because I have crippling 🌈 a u t i s m 🌀

Jon/Martin; easier

Basira/daisy; the diving bell.. oh it could be fucking tongues and teeth too. I hate them they need to kill th-

Tim/Sasha; canary in a coal mine/how to rest

Melanie/Georgie; October. They get to be happy.

The Entities;

The end; pretty little things

The extinction; hollow moon

The desolation; shallow river

The slaughter; take me to war

The hunt; sleeping giants

The flesh; the hand that feeds

The corruption; know how/bitter medicine

The stranger; empty page

The buried; can’t go back

The web; nobody

The eye; new discovery

The spiral; metaphor

The lonely; never love an anchor

The vast; down the river

The dark; turn out the lights

Anyway go listen to the crane wives bc do it

I adore Assad

Y’all ever think about them filming all the Dubai scenes in season 1 in like a month (so I’ve heard) while Assad mostly plays Minecraft in the background, largely goes back to his normal life for like a year, and then nervously returns to film FIRST “Don’t Be Afraid, Just start the tape” and delivers THE full throttle Armand performance of all time?

They should not be allowed to be in management it all goes to shit

Who keeps letting Bouchards into management positions 😭

I'm never trusting heterosexual sex again.