If You Don't Mind Me Complaining About Something: I Just Happend To Read Some Comments In A Star Was

If you don't mind me complaining about something: I just happend to read some comments in a star was sub on reddit, and apparently some think that the clones knew about order 66?? and then there was some statement that cody doesn't really care about obi-wan and that he had always been more loyal to the republic than him?? like, did they miss everything?? it just bugs me so much. Do you think there's a reason behind this line of thinking? are they in denial of canon or something?

Yes, there’s a reason behind this line of thinking. Before the 6th season of The Clone Wars(2008) premiere the lore regarding Order 66 was clear: everyone knew about it, including the Jedi.

Before season 6, Order 66 was simply one of the 150 Contingency Orders for the Grand Army of the Republic. The clones learned these orders in Kamino but they were not these super secret orders no one knew about. The clones knew about them and they were openly discussed in canon. So before TCW the clones, in fact, fully aware of order 66.

Order 66: In the event of Jedi officers acting against the interests of the Republic, and after receiving specific orders verified as coming directly from the Supreme Commander (Chancellor), GAR commanders will remove those officers by lethal force, and command of the GAR will revert to the Supreme Commander (Chancellor) until a new command structure is established. —From Contingency Orders for the Grand Army of the Republic: Order Initiation, Orders 1 Through 150, GAR document CO(CL) 56–95 [Karen Traviss. True Colors]

Ordo had never understood it, either. He could recite any statute or regulation, including all 150 Contingency Orders for the Grand Army—which all clone officers had to know by heart—with all the ease granted by his eidetic memory. But making sense of rules was another matter. Why start a killing war if you were going to slam on the brakes and declare one way of killing someone morally preferable to another? [Karen Traviss. True Colors]

It’s not clear how much of this the Jedi knew but we do know they didn’t investigate the situation on Kamino THAT deeply so it’s debatable if they actually knew about these Order (or at least Order 66). Regardless, the clones knew about the existence of Order 66.

As for Cody, yeah, this idea they had a super close relationship is fandom. I mean, TCW portrayed them as working well together but, before the chips became a thing, Cody had no remorse for trying to kill Obi-wan. Afterwards, he spent many years happily working for the Empire. So it’s not like Cody was a huge Jedi stan who spent the rest of his life mourning his former Jedi general.

Cody was portrayed as a loyal soldier with orders and he executed them as he was trained to do. So, again, yeah, people aren’t wrong for saying Cody was more loyal to the government (Republic and Empire) than he was to Obi-wan. It’s not that the clones were malicious, they were in fact very loyal. Arguably, as loyal as the Jedi. and when they were told the Jedi were betraying everything they were srown to protect they reacted accordingly. It’s not that Cody didn’t like Obi-wan, but he was a soldier and he had government to protect. When the order came he did what he was trained to do, no personal feelings (the jedi way). I mean, he didn’t know the orders were coming from a sith lord, that he was being used or that Obi-wan was innocent. So he obeyed.

This is why so many people are critical of the chip storyline, because it robs the clones of their agency and strips the story of so much complexity. It replace themes like loyalty, obedience, war crimes, politics, agency, etc with a simply ‘the chips made them do it’. In a way, it makes the clones more sympathetic but it also made them less complex. Instead of men forced into a impossible position we have living robots with no agency. It’s complicated but I get why they did it. the chips were much easier to explain on an animated show with limited time. I mean, the previous lore explored the issue on multiples platforms over many years. and the kind of introspection that works beautifully on novels and comics don’t always translate well to screen.

So, no, people are not ignoring canon or in denial. They are just going deeper into the lore :)