SMP!Sapnap Rushing To Kinoko Kingdom And Asking Where SMP!Karl Is Located Right Now Is Breaking My Heart

SMP!Sapnap rushing to Kinoko Kingdom and asking where SMP!Karl is located right now is breaking my heart because he will not lose another fiance.

I’m gonna live blog this shit

Teacher: Sapnap got into a fight today.

Bad: Is he alright?!

Skeppy: Did he win?!

Bad: Skeppy!

Skeppy: What?

Hello everyone! How long has it been since one of my Overly Long Analysis?

God, I missed being able to do this, so, to celebrate, this one will be a 3 parter on yesterday's lore!

As always I'll be talking about the characters exclusively unless stated otherwise.

The Dialogue is color-coded so we'll have: Sapnap, Eryn, Michael, Punz, Tommy, Sam, Jack, Dream

Everything under the cut

First up is Sapnap's stream: Late Thanksgiving Stream On Dream SMP (LORE) FINALE because after the last 2 streams my boy deserves to be in the spotlight

Starting off strong with a "wtf is happening, why is Sapnap like this?". In all seriousness though, they were just messing around and having fun at the start. Sapnap, Punz, and Callahan just goofing off together.

Sapnap canonically hates NFTs. George is still sleeping.

Dadboyhalo moment, reminding his kid to feed the horse he stole properly.

Eryn may have just joined Kinoko Kingdom. Karl is canonically watching Over The Garden Wall (good choice).

The bell in the Prime Church is gone, which could become an interesting detail for later.

Glad to know that Sapnap's first instinct when seeing any type of pet is still murder.

"Why is he [Dream] in there? I've barely gotten the whole- why is he even in there?" "He's in there because he didn't pay me enough" "He's in there because he did some fucked up shit Michael" "What- what did he do?" "He wanted to control everyone on the server and he, well, he tried to take everyone's-"

We finally got someone trying to explain to one of the newcomers what Dream has done. It's interesting that Punz immediately made it about himself while Sapnap was trying to explain that Dream had hurt everyone.

"Okay Michael fine, you wanna know- you wanna know why he's in there?" "Yes" "He's fucked up, alright? He was my friend but he's fucked up, okay? He wanted to control everyone" "So do you think he should be in there?" "Yes" "For how long? (...) Because I never got a straight answer. I don't know what he did past trying to control people" "He did fucked up shit. You see this fish [Beckerson] Michael?" "Yeah?" "You see this fish? Beckerson? He took- he tried to take Beckerson from me. Beckerson! You know who Beckerson is?!" "I don't know who Beckerson is" "Beckerson is the first pet on the server" "And he tried to take- why?" "Because he wanted to have power over me like he wanted to have power over everyone"

I apologize for cutting out Eryn's lines here, but this is rather long as is and he was mostly just agreeing with Sapnap. That said it's really interesting to see Sapnap try to explain everything, mostly because we finally have someone who is trying, but also because he has such a unique perspective on things. He used to be Dream's friend and still cares about him and it hurts him that Dream would try to have power over him. It hurts him to know what kind of person his friend became.

And Michael's skepticism makes sense in the situation. As he mentioned, he never actually got an explanation about anything. He never got specific actions, just general statements on why Dream's a bad guy.

"But I still love him, Michael! I still love him" (reiterating the point that Sapnap never stopped caring)

"Listen, listen, Michael, you just need to listen to the man, he said he's [Dream] fucked up-" "And what did he do to you? What did he do to you?" "I- I don't know. I'm just in it. I'm just in it" "So you are blindly following then?" "No no, I just, Michael, I just don't care" "But have you heard any other opinions?" "I mean, I mean. At the end of the day Michael..." "I don't think you've heard any other opinions"

I think this one was a really interesting exchange. Both of them are new and both of them are completely ignorant to the history of the server, but it's interesting to see how differently they approach their lack of knowledge.

Eryn doesn't really care that much. Just in general. The two things he seems to care about so far are chaos and Tommy. Everything else is just generally inconsequential to him. Whether Dream is actually a bad guy or not it doesn't impact him.

For Michael it's the exact opposite. He wants to get to the truth, that seems to be his main character drive. He isn't satisfied with just adopting someone else's opinions on the matter, especially not if he's not provided with any compelling reason to do so.

And it's very clear that they don't understand each other. They're talking past each other because to both of the the way the other has of dealing with life is inconceivable.

"Michael, even though Dream is fucked up I still care about him-" "Do you?" "But he's gotta stay in prison" "For how long?" "I don't know. As long as it takes for him to stop being fucked up"

Another little thing I wanted to point out here: Michael keeps asking how long Dream deserves to be in prison for, because that's how it normally works. You serve your sentence and that's it. And that's how some people in the fandom seem to view it as well. But, here's the thing, Dream wasn't locked up to be in prison. He was locked up because he had the Revive Book, otherwise, he would have been killed. The prison was the only option for him to stay alive because nobody on the whole server felt safe with him being out.

"He took away everyone's most prized possession! He took away my fish, he took away Tommy's Axe of Peace" (...) "I think he took Tom's discs also" "Oh yeah shit, you're right, that's way more important. He took away Tommy's discs" "Yeah I heard that one" "He tried to take Skeppy, he tried to steal Skeppy!" "He tried to- he took Skeppy. He took a whole ass person!" "He took him and put him in a box" "That's fucked up he literally kidnapped Skeppy" "Okay, like, Michael, he- he- he put Skeppy in a box to control Badboyhalo" "See nobody had explained that part to me, that is pretty fucked up. Now that I think about it maybe it's good that he is in there [the prison]"

Okay, 3 things I want to quickly say about this:

1) Sapnap recognizing the importance of the discs out loud is so important to me. Just anyone that isn't Tommy recognizing that, yes, they've had a huge impact. They are important even if they're pretty basic items.

2) Eryn is surprisingly knowledgeable for someone who generally doesn't care to ask. I'm guessing he probably learned about the Skeppy cage and Tommy's discs off-screen. No idea if it was from stumbling on the attachment vault or from Tommy himself.

3) To all of those thinking the Skeppy cage was just a silly bit with no consequences: how does it feel to be so wrong? Because that's what convinced Michael of the fact that Dream should probably stay in prison. Because everyone here was pretty horrified by Dream's actions.

"Micheal, Michael, Michael, from what I've heard, from what I've heard he bombed an entire country just for the shits and giggles" (okay, he definitely learned his information from Tommy because Tommy was one of the few who heard Dream's spiel about destroying L'Manburg because it was fun)

Eryn actually mentioned seeing the 3/4 Syndicate members and finding it rather shady, so it's nice to see that that had consequences.

Niki joining trying to be as casual as possible and immediately making everyone suspicious because none of them had heard the alarm yet and she mentioned it unprompted. That's a big fail right there.

Sam comes in yelling at everyone to go toward the prison and finally, they actually do. Tommy also arrived. There's a bit of fighting where everyone suspects Sam of lying to them about Dream's escape.

"Tommy, Tommy, I wouldn't lie about this Tommy" (immediately going to reassure him instead of everyone else. Awesamdad moment)

"Tommy, where are you?" (Sapnap also looking for Tommy to keep him safe)

"If Sam isn't kidding and Dream's actually breaking out this is the worst possible fucking thing that's happened" "This is- this is not a fucking joke guys" "Tommy, Tommy calm down" "Don't- don't fucking tell me to calm down Michael, you don't know-" "Tommy they don't know, they don't know. They don't know Tommy" (general noises of confusion from Eryn and Michael) "Excuse me? What is wrong with Dream?" "They don't know, I've tried to explain it to them" "Eryn, You don't think Dream's that bad?" "I don't- I haven't met the guy!" "We just have not met him, we don't know" "Okay, you fucks listen to me: no matter what anyone tells you on this server, Dream- Dream is the worst man on this entire server. He's done thi- he's put me in exile, he's left me to die, he has killed me! Just- he's put me through shit that no one should ever see just for the sake of his own fun, alright?!"

So proud of my boy for being able to finally explain how much Dream hurt him even while having a full-blown panic attack. This is the closest he's ever gotten to mentioning the abuse as well. Also, Sapnap supporting him all the way through while also trying to explain that the other two aren't doubting him out of malice but just genuine ignorance.

"No nononono we, we know Sam Tommy and Sam- Sam doesn't fuck around like this" (Sapnap acting as the voice of reason after everyone started doubting Sam once more)

"Eryn, Michael, listen to me: if Dream comes near you, if he interacts with you, he is not a good man, alright? He'll dig his claws into you and manipulate you from within. Please, whatever you do, listen to me right now if he gets out then everything is gonna turn upside fucking down, alright?"

It's really fascinating how Tommy describes things. Wilbur's brand of manipulation is an insidious little thing, a bug crawling into your brain and making you take wrong decisions. Dream's brand of manipulation is more overtly destructive. It claws at you from within and warps your perception of the world, turning it upside down. Tommy's speeches are always really simple and direct, but they get the point across wonderfully.

"Sapnap just let me stay with you- let me st-" "Just stay with me Tommy, he won't be able to get you if you're with me" (Sapnap once more acting as a shield to protect Tommy from Dream, a nice callback to the Disc War Finale)

Dream, Techno, Connor, and Ranboo come out of the prison and Sapnap doesn't hesitate a second to start attacking Dream and yelling at everyone to help Sam.

"No I can't get hit by him [Dream], not again, I can't go through this" "Tommy stay back, just stay back" (In case anyone doubted that Dream's abuse towards Tommy was also canonically physical, here's your answer. Also Sapnap taking a moment from his fighting to help Tommy calm down)

"Michael, Eryn, listen to me, if he [Dream] makes any contact with you, if he makes any- any- any measure to interact with you do not believe anything he says. He's a manipulator and a liar" (Tommy still focusing on getting his point through to the 2 new members since they'd be more vulnerable to Dream's manipulation)

Sapnap mistakingly killed Cottonball and that's the first time you can hear instant regret for killing a pet.

"Don't focus the Wither, focus Dream!" "But the- but the Wither will destroy everything" "Who gives a shit, Dream will do way worse!"

Reminder to everyone that Jack hates Dream more than literally everyone else on the server. He was there to see him destroy everything time and time again, he was there to fight against him on Doomsday, he's seen what happens when Dream is free, and Jack is willing to get some of the server destroyed if it means avoiding that.

"Niki was spawning Withers! I knew she was a fucking part of this Punz, I told you" "Yeah, what a fuck?" (I suppose that even working with Dream, Punz wouldn't have known that. Either way, Niki managed to fool no one from the start)

They meet up with Hannah and Boomer again when chasing Dream and the Syndicate and Hanna is immediately in favor of killing Dream. I didn't remember whether she had an opinion on him or not but guess that answers the question.

Also, there is another bit of infighting where Eryn is saying that they should leave Dream and the rest alone, he mostly doesn't understand what's happening and is decidedly confused. On the other side, Punz, Sapnap, and Hannah are very vehement about NOT leaving them alone because they are aware of what they'd done and don't want a repeat of that.

"I know where he [Dream] went but I'm not telling you guys" "Why would you not tell us?!" "I don't think we should kill him! Everyone deserves redemption!" "Eryn, you were not fucking here to make that call!"

Jack being based as f*ck once more. The problem with Eryn's line of thinking here is that he doesn't know. Much like Phil or Techno his actions are based on ignorance. He doesn't know Dream, doesn't know if he'd even want to redeem himself and he doesn't know what he's done. And Jack is right, Eryn wasn't there, that isn't his decision to make.

Also, Michael's makes a point here that he is also interesting. He understands why Eryn is struggling with this decision because he too is ignorant. He never met Dream and it's hard to make a decision while they're under so much stress. But also he thinks that, after Tommy's speech especially, they have to at least keep tab on Dream's whereabouts even if the two of them don't intend to kill him.

"There's no time for this shit! Did you not here- Tommy not fucking get through your that he's a- what he's done?" (I have such a hard time thinking that this guy is supposed to still be one Dream's side with how upset he sounds about them not taking Tommy's words seriously enough)

The group splits up and Sapnap decides to only take Punz with him to fight Dream as they're the only ones who may have a chance.

"Who would be first on his [Dream's] agenda?" (Yeah, wonder who. I forget sometimes that the only people who are aware of Dream's obsession are Tommy himself, Quackity, Sam, and Jack. And now maybe Phil if he connects the dots)

They split up once again at Punz's insistence, and I'm guessing here is maybe where he meets up with Dream? Someone who watched his pov can tell me.

"We need to tell- Eryn doesn't know. Eryn, Dream is gonna be the worst person you ever fucking meet. He used to be great! He used to be my best friend, but he's changed. He's not the same. Just be careful, if you see him don't fight him. You won't stand a chance"

Honestly, I really appreciate the fact that Sapnap is one of the few characters that keep trying to solve the misunderstandings in the server instead of just not communicating. And, since he's not sure if he got through Eryn, he simply wants him to stay safe. He's not mad about it, just concerned. It's refreshing.

"Do I really have to kill my own best friend?" (Sapnap trying to come to terms with his own promise)

Also, Sapnap is convinced that Ranboo is one of the people who helped Dream escape. And he was the one to tell Tubbo that Dream escaped apparently.

"Are you a Dream apologist Sam?" "I'll kill you" (Welp, that answered that question)

After Sam arrived the group (made of Hannah, Boomer, Eryn, and Sapnap) started questioning him on how he could let this happen, with Hannah also bringing up that she's disappointed in him for that.

"I don't know anyone might wanna get him [Dream] out because he manipulates people, that's what he does! That's what he's good at!" (Sapnap proving once more that he knows why Dream is so dangerous)

"Where did Tommy go? I hope he's okay..." (There are 2 things Eryn cares about, I'm telling you)

Sam confesses to Sapnap that he thinks there is a mole amongst the guard because Techno couldn't have known how to break into the prison like that. So Dream has managed to create mistrust among them even without realizing so by giving Techno the blueprints. Apparently, even Sam doesn't suspect that Dream would go after Tommy immediately, huh.

"I know where he's gonna go" "Where?" "Sapnap I know where he's gonna go. Where is- who has his stuff? His armor?" "What armor?" "Oh no. I'm gonna go where- where the bunker was, where we arrested him. You try and go find somewhere else" *Sam leaves* "His armor. His armor. His armor? I know where he's going- I know where he's going next! He needs his shit!"

They figured this one out about 20 minutes too late. Still, though, they both managed to put their emotions aside long enough to think logically. It's more or less expected from Sam by this point, but it's impressive from Sapnap considering that he's usually a lot more on the impulsive side. Meanwhile this whole stream he's been a constant voice of reason.

Sapnap remembers that Tubbo was the one to take Dream's armor and heads to Tubbo's secret vault. Of course, he gets there in time because Dream was way too busy tormenting Tommy at this time, and manages to get everything from there, even wearing Dream's own armor.

Dream does in fact go to the vault as Sapnap suspected, even if he's already armored.

"Sapnap! Sapnap it's great to see you! Do you have my armor?" "Yeah, I do. I've everything" "Give me it. Come on" "Don't think I can do that pal" "What do you mean?" "I don't think I can just hand you over your armor. Why did you guys- why did you get out?" "Eh. It's my armor, I'd like it back"

Dream's tone just shifts drastically as soon as Sapnap refuses to comply with his demands. It's the closest we've seen Dream act like he does with Tommy with anyone else.

"I don't know Dream, I'm not gonna lie it kinda- it kinda feels good on me. Dream, I told you to stay in there [the prison], didn't I?" "What are you saying?" "I told you to stay in there, why did you get out?" "What do you mean why'd I get out?" "Why did you get out?" "What did you want me to rot in- I was getting tortured! Did you want me to rot in prison forever?" "You were getting tortured? Who was torturing you?" "Yeah Quackity was torturing me" "Quackity was torturing you? What do you mean he was torturing you? Like literally torturing you?" "He was trying to get the revival book and so he was torturing me" "The revival book? What revival book?" "It's a long story" "Do you have it on you now?" "No, I don't. Just give me my stuff. Give my stuff and I'll leave, I'll be out of here"

Taking another break from transcribing this long-ass dialogue to point out a couple of things here:

1) Sapnap, much like Tommy, is immediately sympathetic to Dream for what he went through, showing once again that the torture was not something anyone on the server approved off, no matter how much they dislike Dream, or, in Sapnap's case, how much he thinks that Dream deserves to be locked up in prison

2) This is not the first time that someone who was at the Disc War Finale seems not to know about the book, despite the fact that Dream having that was the literal reason why they locked him up instead of killing him, which makes me wonder if people thought that Dream's revival powers were something he simply had instead of having been acquired from somewhere else

"What are you planning to do? I think I deserve to know" "I was planning to leave and get away and just be away from everybody" "You're just gonna leave and get away and live on your own? Away from everyone? That's your plan?" "Yes, if you give me my armor I'll do that. I'll go away" (...) "Dream I can't do that"

So, of course, we don't know what Dream's actual plan is. We don't know the details of it, nor his end goal. But, considering the fact that, at this point in the stream, he already spent quite a bit of time psychologically torturing Tommy and telling him that he would make him immortal it does seem extremely likely that he's lying to Sapnap.

And, since I know some people are wondering if that was just Tommy's hallucination, right after this conversation Dream gives Techno the Axe of Peace that was previously buried in Logstedshire. He had to have been there and we as the audience have no reason to believe otherwise as of now.

Either way, Dream gives Techno his ax back in exchange for him and Tubbo leaving and blocks himself and Sapnap in the vault with some obsidian he had.

"Dream! You're not the person- you're not just gonna live off in a little cottage in the middle of nowhere, are you?" "Okay, you're right! Look, I won't, I'll live here but I'll be peaceful everyone- everyone will see that" "Dream, I would love that, I really would. That's all I want. But that's not you. And the fact that you broke out of that prison is just a testament to that"

There are a couple of things to note here. For one thing: Sapnap saw right through all of Dream's deception. He's aware that his old friend is a liar and he doesn't let his promises deter him. But also one thing that's very clear all throughout this interaction is how much he still cares about Dream. So much so that Dream being out and being peaceful is all he wants. And he has to go again his own affection for his best friend to stand his ground because that's the right thing to do.

"Dream, you left me behind once before, I'm not giving you the opportunity to do that again" (The difference in perspective. Dream and Sapnap both claim to be the ones who've been abandoned. I'm inclined to agree with Sapnap here though, Dream abandoned him when he gave a speech about how he only cared about controlling Tommy)

"What have you been up to the last couple of months Sapnap? How about the last year? What have you been up to?" "Working on a kingdom. With Karl. And George. You remember George, don't you?" "Ah, kingdom, where is that located at?"

If anyone remembers this is the way Dream fishes for information about people's attachments. He did the same with Techno when they were talking in prison, only this time it's made a lot more obvious with the intention of being intimidating. After all, what Dream is after right now is his armor, not Sapnap's attachments, and he's more likely to falter if he's nervous.

"I bet George misses you a whole lot" "I bet he does" "He definitely never talks about you, I'll tell you that much" (Sapnap is trying to use a similar tactic to Dream's here, trying to hit him where it hurts. Sadly for him, he gets no reaction since Dream hasn't really cared about him or George for a long time now)

"Dream, if you want it [the armor], take it off my dead body, I'm not handing it to you. You can say you're trying to negotiate with me all you want, I'm not budging" (This was just cool)

"If I give this to you I don't even wanna know what you're gonna do"

Deciding that that's probably a fight he can't win since Dream doesn't have that many resources at the moment, and even less after he used some to torment Tommy, he decides to change tactics, get out of the room and threaten Kinoko instead.

"If you really wanna live that way in a house, in a cottage then you don't need this armor, just go and do it. But I'm not giving you stuff that's gonna enable you to hurt other people, not again Dream"

Once again, Sapnap is being extremely rational in this stream. He realized that Dream really wouldn't need weapons and armor if he was telling the truth. But he isn't. And Sapnap can see right through him.

Dream still manages to evade Sapnap's chase and leaves him telling him they'd see each other again.

Sapnap heads back to Kinoko and meets up with Karl to try and explain everything. Karl disagrees with Sapnap actions saying that he believes that Sapnap has made Kinoko a target.

They end their conversation agreeing that they'll have to prepare. Make a watchtower, get more people, and so on.

Sapnap throughout this stream truly impressed me. He managed to keep his cool for the most part and think before he acts, which brought him to both be able to predict Dream's next move as well as to be able to see through the bs. It's also interesting that, while Dream most likely doesn't see Sapnap as an equal, he still sees him as a definite threat, at least pvp-wise.

It makes me really curious to see what kind of role Sapnap will cover moving forward.

In honor of December,

I'm starting a countdown today:

Day 1 of waiting for the DreamTeam meetup.

big george