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Adventure Time: Fionna and Cake Theory:

I think that there's some connection between how Simon/Ice King is and how Fionna's world is, when he was "part of the madness" Fionna's world was too, like how we see it in the original series, but now that he's not "part of that madness" and " just a normal guy" so is Fionna's world, and Since Simon's really struggling with his life Fionna's world is "glitching" as everyone analysing the trailer pointed out, Simon is obsessed with Betty, Fionna's world gains Betty imagery, but there's some things that don't change along with Simon, Ice Queen looks like Ice Queen but Human, instead of changing along with Simon and becoming instead a gender-swapped Simon, this definitely means something, it could be because Simon is trying to cling onto the Ice King identity to try and have life make sense.

To give you some insight on just how absolutely insane this new Fionna and Cake episode is, Cake encourages this sexy alternate dimension Ice King (voiced by BRIAN DAVID GILBERT BY THE WAY) to commit interdimensional selfcest with Simon and he admits he THOUGHT ABOUT IT???? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHOW???

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

no because how has Ice Marceline both got the Ax Bass, and is young, she was only given the ax when she was older than that (see s10e7),

so if we're going with the theory that Ice Marceline is that age because original Winter King world Marceline died at that age then the ax shouldn't belong to Marceline yet, let alone have been turned into the ax base, we know that it was Marceline herself to do it because Hunson says as much in his's debut episode (see s2e1), so unless this world's Simon left Marceline in the care of Hunson earlier than in the regular at universe causing his last memory of her to be at that age but she died later after she made the ax, then there's no reason for Ice Marceline to be that age and have the ax base, not to mention her vampire teeth, there is absolutely no canon reason for a Marceline of that age to have become a vampire yet, unless I have this all wrong and Marceline actually grew up normally, maybe even didn't die but The Winter King made her ice replacement based off of how she is (or was) closer to the present but in the shape of Marceline how he knew her as Simon, assuming again that this Simon left Marceline earlier than ooo's Simon, but wait I'm forgetting something, ice Marceline looks like Marceline when first meeting Simon, not even how she would after being with him for some time then being left earlier than in ooo's timeline (see s5e14), meaning that everything must have been pushed back for the timeline to work, Elise abandoning Marcy sooner, Simon finding Marcy sooner, Simon leaving Marcy to Hunson after succumbing to much to the crown sooner. if this was what happened then it would make sense, there's still no way to know if regular Marceline is truly dead in that dimension though, it's heavily implied given what the Winter King said about Betty, but not confirmed, there could still be a Marceline somewhere waiting for that dimension's PB.

"bUt ThAt'S jUsT a RaMbLe, An AdVeNtUrE tImE rAmBlE, tHaNkS fOr ReAdInG"

the roundtable just uploaded a video on this exact topic if you want more

no because how has Ice Marceline both got the Ax Bass, and is young, she was only given the ax when she was older than that (see s10e7),

so if we're going with the theory that Ice Marceline is that age because original Winter King world Marceline died at that age then the ax shouldn't belong to Marceline yet, let alone have been turned into the ax base, we know that it was Marceline herself to do it because Hunson says as much in his's debut episode (see s2e1), so unless this world's Simon left Marceline in the care of Hunson earlier than in the regular at universe causing his last memory of her to be at that age but she died later after she made the ax, then there's no reason for Ice Marceline to be that age and have the ax base, not to mention her vampire teeth, there is absolutely no canon reason for a Marceline of that age to have become a vampire yet, unless I have this all wrong and Marceline actually grew up normally, maybe even didn't die but The Winter King made her ice replacement based off of how she is (or was) closer to the present but in the shape of Marceline how he knew her as Simon, assuming again that this Simon left Marceline earlier than ooo's Simon, but wait I'm forgetting something, ice Marceline looks like Marceline when first meeting Simon, not even how she would after being with him for some time then being left earlier than in ooo's timeline (see s5e14), meaning that everything must have been pushed back for the timeline to work, Elise abandoning Marcy sooner, Simon finding Marcy sooner, Simon leaving Marcy to Hunson after succumbing to much to the crown sooner. if this was what happened then it would make sense, there's still no way to know if regular Marceline is truly dead in that dimension though, it's heavily implied given what the Winter King said about Betty, but not confirmed, there could still be a Marceline somewhere waiting for that dimension's PB.

"bUt ThAt'S jUsT a RaMbLe, An AdVeNtUrE tImE rAmBlE, tHaNkS fOr ReAdInG"

THE PETRIGROF SONG IS REAL

I mean, I (and others) did predict Fionna coming to the realization that ‘Simon being Ice King again is very very bad actually’ via watching IK’s old tapes - in a thematic reversal of Holly Jolly Secrets…. You know, Finn learned to like Ice King more after learning about Simon Petrikov and who he used to be, Fionna learned to like Simon Petrikov more after really learning about Ice King and who he used to be. 

But the thing that really stuck with me about how the show pulled it off is how… tame that video was. Compared to what the audience knows about how terrible Ice King could get. 

Most of the video Fionna saw was Ice King goofing off, with just the last clip giving her a tiny little taste of how prone he was to fits of anger and extreme misery

She didn’t get to see the videos of Ice King crying for literal hours on end, she didn’t get to see him throw tantrums that make him a legitimate danger for those around him, I don’t think she actually knows he used to kidnap and stalk women on a regular basis - but that’s okay, because she didn’t need to. That tiny little taste of Ice King’s misery and pain was really all she actually needed.

Because it really speaks to how little she actually understood of the Ice King’s situation before. How much seeing that one little clip of him back in “Prismo the Wishmaster'' gave her such a totally wrong impression of what Ice King was like

that just seeing him yell at Gunter and cry once is enough to make her totally reexamine all of her preconceived notions about him.

And it really speaks how despite her sometimes-childish attitude, Fionna really possesses a lot of emotional intelligence. Both in how quickly she correctly gauged that Ice King’s behavior in the last clip was a regular thing for him and probably not even his worst moment and that his anger was yet another expression of his being 'super-sad'

And how clearly her Second Thoughts about the Crown Plan didn’t start when she saw Ice King yell - they started when she saw how despite working so hard on getting himself Cursed again, Simon still couldn’t bear the idea of watching videos of Ice King’s ‘Good Times’.

Because as much as it was important for Fionna to really know Ice King in order to fathom just how terrible the Crown Plan was, it was also equally important for her to really know Simon as well.

When she was so dismissive toward Simon’s plight in the Prismo episode, and when she so eagerly and thoughtlessly jumped on the Crown Plan - she really knew nothing about either facets of his identity. She only got such a quick clip of Ice King actually in a good mood, and all she’s seen of Simon was him at his lowest point - rude, dismissive, screaming at her face, literally considering letting her whole world burn in his own depressive spiral. 

It’s only after they reached Farmworld and officially started to work towards the Crown Plan that Fionna really started to know who Simon Petrikov is when he’s not at rock bottom. That’s when she learned how intelligent

And dorky

And kind

And comforting 

And fatherly 

And a silly little hopeless romantic for his GF

he is. 

And they became real friends and she really grew fond of all of these things about him. So now, watching clips of Ice King… it takes her some time to process it, clearly, but it also bothers her how little of these traits that she likes about her friend and he likes about himself she can see in the crazy old Ice Wizard.

Seeing also how mad and sad he could be was just what clinched the deal for her, the last excuse she could find for why it was okay (“Maybe he really was happier like that?”) gone.

And that also relates to her more general anxieties about the Crown Plan from farther in the same episode.

Now that she’s seen how much being infused Magic changed Simon… It's no wonder she’s so worried about how Magic will change her and Cake and all of her loved ones.

And it’s not a totally unfounded fear. We’re still not exactly sure how bringing Magic back into Simon’s brain will affect Fionnaworld - but it will most likely work the same as it did the other way around? When Fionnaworld first lost its magic? So that will mean not only the people and the world will change physically, but their memories and minds will also be altered as if they always lived in the Magical World and never in the Mundane world Fionna remembers.

And that will kinda make them into different people. Gary Prince and Prince Gumball feel like the most obvious comparison. One is a literal god-king who seems to have at least a bit of the old Bubblegum Hubris problem

The other is just a humble little put-on Barista trying to make it big

Becoming Prince Gumball again would be in some way the ultimate fulfilment of Gary's dream - not just a Pastry Mansion but a whole Candy Kingdom! But... it would also mean giving up on all of the memories and experiences of ever having been Gary Prince. And... it's at least worth considering if it's worth it.

We know that Change doesn't have to be all bad, Cake the Cat will testify to that

I'm sure that from her perspective, having every bit of her memories wiped and replaced is worth it if she can keep her mind and ability to speak.

But Fionna's little Storytime with Simon, I think, really gave Fionna a look to how much his reminiscing is important to him

and really gave her a glimpse to how much people's history and memories effect who they are, and seeing this and seeing what ‘turning into a different and more magical person without your original memories’ did to Simon Petrikov

It’s really no wonder it makes Fionna worried.

The ship we didn't know we needed

YESSSSS

The ship we didn't know we needed

oh these designs are fire

HHEEEYYYY!!!!

various fionna and cake doodles!!!

Fionna and Cake episode 7 Spoilers

ahem, Allow me to point out the obvious here

SIMON WAS RIGHT, WITHOUT HIM, MARCY GET FOUND BY SOMEONE ELSE. SHE DID GET TO LIVE IN A BIG CASTLE. SHE DID GET SERVANTS THAT FOLLOW HER EVERY COMMAND.

BUT WITHOUT HIM, MARCY DIDN'T GET THE LOVE AND SUPPORT OF A FATHER WHO TAUGHT HER HOW TO BE KIND AND LOVING.

WITHOUT HIM SHE INHERITED A WORLD THAT WAS EVENTUALLY DOOMED TO BE DESTROYED BECAUSE SHE NEVER BECAME A VAMPIRE HUNTER. ENEMIES WITH SOMEONE THAT SHE WOULD HAVE FALLEN IN LOVE WITH, MAYBE ALREADY DID.

ALL BECAUSE SIMON WASNT THERE TO GUIDE HER

AND YET AS SEEN IN THE EPISODE HE CLEARLY DIDN'T PUT ON THE CROWN WHEN HE DIED, THEREFORE HE HAD TO WEAR THE CROWN FOR HIM TO DO ANY OF THIS, DOOMING HIMSELF TO INSANITY.

Fionna and Cake Eps 9 & 10 spoilers

Welp

Ive heard people are upset with how it ended

So heres my thoughts

I enjoyed the ending, I loved it, in fact! But I cant deny there was a little twinge of disappointment left over. I think thats my fault though

You see we were all building ourselves up for these two episodes to be an emotional gut punch. And could you blame us? We were literally told.

So when the episodes came out, we were met with, while still a hit to the feels, not as much as we were expecting. There were other factors at play of course, but I think that was one of the big ones

There are still loose ends around but I think that ok, more for a potential season 2 to deal with, if we ever get one. And if we dont, well, all the better for fan creation.

I see people upset with how Betty and Simon turned out. Personally Im super happy with that arc, if it turned out to be a fairy tale ending with Betty becoming normal again I would have been slightly upset because it was so clear that the narrative was hinting to their relationship not exactly being the healthiest

I also saw how people were upset with how the lich was died which made me confused like. He wasnt the main antagonist and was never gonna be it. He had his story told in Adventure Time Proper, now was just to show what mightve happened if he won, and thats it.

And remember, nothing is perfect. The ending may not be for everyone, but it was for me, and many other people, and that should be enough.

Im glad Simon learns to move on. Im glad Fionnas world stays the same. Im glad we got a happy ending.

They deserved it.

THIS FUCKING POST is how I find out Felicia Day is the voice of Betty… I’m gonna cry wtf

moving these tweets before the next episode airs see u on the other side

(Day 27/27 of catch up posting) And we’re finally caught up! This one is only a few weeks old so that’s nice💀 anyway I really sympathize with Simon and my heart hurts for this guy

I cant believe cake is a selfshipper

AND ICE PRINCE AGREES

Im losing it lmao

Oh, and then I ripped out his throat and drank him dry. And I wasn't even hungry! You should have seen it, minions. The look on Bonnie's face was so funny!