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Aaagh!!!

Yes to Sun teaching the kids! He really puts in so much for these kids and he genuinely likes it! I think it's such a great point to make about how people miss him so they buy his merch. I didn't think of it from that angle.

I remember Monty and Lunar both joking about not letting Sun teach because of the Earth driving prank but like.... It was one prank? He was teasing his baby sister. She felt left out because the others had their prank wars but she wasn't included so Sun included her.

Like I remember in the first podcast Puppet asked Sun to sponsor her so she could get her license back.

I also remember how Sun wasn't necessarily taught how to use Star power by KC and instead just had to figure it out but after all that hard work he got to teach New Moon how to channel Star power and was so giddy about it.

It's also unclear how much magic he knows but he put in a lot of effort to learn stuff (on the extreme fly) but I know he understands it somewhat.

Like... Bros got wisdom like KC... If only people asked him.

I love how the kids open up to Sun. It's sometimes hard to express scenes with VR models but they always make an effort to show sun kneeling to meet kids eye levels etc etc. I just love those little small details.

Like he pays attention to so many small things and he respects boundaries too. I can absolutely understand why even the problem kids get attached to him.

I forgot to mention him but also Gregory and Sun, I didn't mention it before but through Sun's actions and words he was able to get Gregory on his side and this was before Gregory met another dimension Eclipse. Gregory is a smart kid in the shows and the fact he was the first one to realize something was up and actually give Sun a chance to prove himself? Mostly this was due to him never remembering Sun ever hurting him or hurting others so he gave him the benefit of the doubt. And that's so Iconic for me.

Also!!! I would read pages on why Sun is so awesome so never be afraid to ramble and him or others. I'd read it!

Another small little thing I noticed early on with Sun and Lunar, remember how he was the only one to ask about the privacy barrel and clarify it and respect Lunar's space? Then at Christmas he got him such a small and sweet gift and even involved Moon with the gift so Lunar could always have it even in the mental space. The exchange between Spigot and the drawing was the cutest thing.

Like Moon was thoughtful to don't get me wrong but my guy, you don't buy a toddler/kid a factory for Christmas. Same to you Monty. 😂😂😂 He literally couldn't even use his gift until later. The thought really did count but that was so funny.

Getting more caught up in LAES!!!

Tee Hee

I'm really loving Earth's growth! Lunar did messed up stuff but he's finally growing up maybe?

Spoilers to where I'm at for the Lunar and Earth show below!

I have a comic idea for tsams should I do one?

I just want to rant about the shows and why I like Sun in them 😂 + more observations and theories.

Warning vague spoilers for tsams laws and fams (I think it's eaps now?)

☀️SUN LOVE AHEAD ☀️

I'm to the point Earth was threatened by the Creator and Lunar killed Eclipse and Gemini had to leave, Solar tried to intervene and have them conversate but it blew up on him.

I really like the progression of things. Every time I'm on the fence or in doubt of what's going to happen next I'm blown out of the water. I think I'm enjoying Earth's growth the most. Lunar is regressing but it makes sense for him because he tends to literally run from every problem. Again, it's hard to change and I can actually see that Lunar is ready to grow up and change for the better so I'm excited to see how that goes.

I was at first mad at Moon but I'm convinced there's more nuance. Now I forgive pookie.

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Guys Sun, he's just so great. Like... Now that I'm getting caught up again I'm realizing just how much he deals with and I'm not talking about the ✨trauma✨ but just the day to day. Like LAES definitely helped bridge the gap of what goes in the daily lives for the family.

First of all, people like Sun's daycare. (let's be honest it's always been HIS daycare) He's so good at what he does. People bring their actual eldritch abominations, literal hell spawns, and freaks of nature in to be watched by him. The kids of the daycare at this point can't even be considered human. Think about it, the actual Devil from the Bible brings his hellspawn kid in to be watched (I think it's funny he's implied to be rude to Sun, besties with Moon, and nice to Earth). There was an episode dedicated to the possibility of Sun in sheer popularity and merch sales alone could replace Glamrock Freddy (the only reason he didn't take the offer had to do with being uncomfortable on stage!). Plus, most problem-kids end up liking him. Example being Barry and FC (I count Gregory's ghost friends too).

We all know he was built to be a daycare attendant but the Creator literally said "I didn't install any information on that in you because I wanted you to learn it." Sun taught himself all his child care skills and figured it out (while dealing with 5 years of the added stress of Old Moon doing his thangy thang). Childcare is so stressful, I've worked all kinds of jobs and childcare is absolutely one of the hardest I've done.

Childcare is one of the most physically and emotionally demanding jobs and no two methods work on the same kid. You have to be highly adaptive and patient.

One of the biggest things I've noticed is that in the show when kids start being bad instead of telling them "No" or getting frustrated (Earth and Lunar both do this to a degree) Sun knows to redirect them. He redirected Barry as much as he could (it was funny when Barry kept stabbing funtime Freddy). I think he's also the biggest help to Foxy with FC (except Monty and Puppet, they help a lot too). I still think it's funny how FC likes Sun, he told Stitchwraith he's like a toy so he likes playing with him (again something like that, not gonna rewatch the ep to get the exact quote)... Then seeing him vibe with the ghost kids Gregory is friends with? Mwah perfection. I also love his dynamic with Francine, him getting tackle hugged at her birthday party and even consenting to turning into a dragon for her? SO CUTE 🥰

I haven't even gotten to the part when he meets Dazzle and hangs with Jack more but I know it's gonna be so perfect. I really like Jack he's so silly. The broken Ipad bit was comedy gold.

Back to Sun!

It's just a nice reminder Sun earned his skills through hard work. It's great when he gets to shine and teach others about his skill. Childcare in general is so hard, so he needs to know how valued that is.

UGH I just love him.

From what I've seen, he takes such good care of his family too.

He's just so playful and ready to hang with them at the drop of a hat. He let Earth vent to him. He makes sure Lunar is ok and is the only one that doesn't baby him. He asked Earth to reach out to Lunar because he could tell Lunar wasn't comfortable to ask him. He also makes sure Solar gets breaks (it's hard for the show to implement that on screen due to them having the same va but it's still shown he gets Solar to rest). I remember he was one of the first people Ruin really decided to speak to and he didn't just outright kick Ruin out of the daycare.

Then just everything with the current Moon too. He comforts him, gets him to rest, and was there when he broke down over Solar. I also like that he's actually the voice of reason for the current Moon and he feels comfortable enough to argue back (it's big for him. I still get goosebumps from when he was learning star power in secret and actually had a shouting match over it with Moon)

I haven't gotten to the part when he tells Earth and Lunar about Solar's death and Ruin's betrayal but I know he's going to be there for them too when he does.

I understand the fandom perceives Old Moon as the older brother but I just disagree with that fundamentally. Sun was the first one awake so to me that makes him the oldest. I think KC likes to claim the oldest but idk how that works programming-code creation wise? In one of the most recent episodes I watched Lunar called Old Moon the big brother but idk man....I don't see it. To me Sun has always been the oldest.

I love seeing him get to be a big brother to people who genuinely fight over his attention. It's just so warm and fuzzy. Like Lunar and Earth going to him to literally just be pampered? And he was so ready to? He went to the store to make them a charcuterie board. They just showed up uninvited and immediately demanded love and my home boy delivered.

"Sun you're the big brother and we're babies, we are babies . Take care of us big bro we want your love 🥺 we're the baby siblings take care of us"

Good stuff.

I like how in the Therapy ep Sun sussed out invisible Lunar. I think he's one of the only people to know when Lunar is invisible.

Ok so my theories and stuff

So like... Am I imagining that Moon's eyes are suddenly glowing purple? They didn't used to do that. I paused my progress of the sams watch through but in the ep I'm watching with him having his total mental break (having a realistic dream Sun died would do that) I noticed it seems like his eyes have a purple glow. And I'm really certain they didn't used to do that.

I was told to watch him and that's like the biggest thing I'm noticing with him. He seems sick? I can tell Earth, Monty, and Sun are trying to help him but like I've seen the spoilers on Tumblr and in fics so I'm sure he's going to push them away...... But yeah he's absolutely sick and the purple is not good. :(

Other than that....

I have more to say but I've put a lot in this post lol. I'll talk more about Sun in my next post.

☀️Sun Propaganda☀️

Ooh you guys wanna like Sun you wanna like him so bad~

Can I just say, the fics people put out about Sun are so amazing. There's so much good food out there for him. I love the introspections and different headcanons and just ideas that people contribute to Sun.

😘👌

Thank you fic writers for being so awesome!!!

Anyways, on with the propaganda! Spoilers Beware and rambles. Many rambles....

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I just got to the part when Sun told Lunar and Earth about Solar passing and then Lunar had a trippy dream and now they're grieving.

I was so right, Sun was there for all of them, cried with them, and made sure they were taken care of.

He's taking care of the family!!!

Anyways, I want to ramble about Sun's mysterious talents.

Sun is very cool and mysterious and talented and sophisticated!!!

Like how come Gemini or even Castor and Pollux separately never mention that Sun using Star power was kind of crazy? I understand they're under the impression that Sun broke apart from the star power but idk if that scene can be read that way?

Then Sun and magic.... Bro had no training but managed to break himself out of a magic box by just raising his voice and getting upset. That's so iconic. He also blew up a base because of Eclipse goading him. I get it sealed Old Moon's fate (I actually argue his reset is 100% due to the consequences of his actions) but can we talk about how cool that crater was? It literally left Eclipse speechless. And even after that, Sun proceeded to tirelessly stay on and functioning despite using that much magic just to try and save his twin. Oh yeah remember how he got shit for saying the expelling spell wrong? Dude had to reverse engineer a spell and recite it backwards with no prior magical knowledge. He didn't even get the knowledge if he messes it up that he would die horribly but he still did his best and all he did was say one word wrong. He's lucky he lived but that's still a huge innate talent he didn't just die!

Sun used Star power to do a Kamehameha. He literally held it in his hands and created a big enough force it pushed eclipse into another dimension and essentially knocked the star power out of Eclipse. Yes, Sun was damaged but he literally walked it off (damaged pain censors). And despite being so horribly mangled at one point he still uses it for self defense. He kicked BloodMoon's ass.

⭐What a badass honestly⭐

🔥Like that's so cool!!! He's so cool!!🔥

Another talent, he can cook!!! I know cooking compared to Star power and Magic is kind of underwhelming but up until upgrading to being able to eat he cooked once a year during Christmas to give to the homeless and isn't that so sweet?!?? Once everyone was able to eat he started to eat more too and now regularly cooks for people? That's so goaded. Cooking is hard and he feeds his family. He's also a breadwinner in the household?? Bro??? That's so awesome.

I loved the part when Sun yelled at Moon for eating chips while he was in the middle of cooking their dinner 😂😂😂

Sun also has a big talent with people! Being a people person is a talent! He managed to break through the star power influence all on his own to show people he is nice and something is going on. Sun is trusted because he works hard to be a trustworthy animatronic. I know there's this overwhelming census amongst the entire cast that Sun can't lie but we have overwhelming evidence to show he does lie and is very much capable of it. He's just an honest guy! Unless it's a very extreme case, he chooses to not lie. So most people just trust and like him. Most people didn't even talk to Moon at first until they found out he was Sun's twin and Sun went out of his way to let people know Moon isn't scary. He even went out to help people pick clothes because he's honest about how they look!

👏👏 People Skills Sun!!!👏👏

Mragh! I think Sun also has a talent for roasting people and calling them out! Remember when he called out Eclipse v2 for being pathetic and miserable even though he won? If I remember right he even roasted original Eclipse while he was in his mind. Remember, all the times he's called out the Creator and actively defied him all the while swearing so much the censor beep made him sound like a dolphin in heat? He insulted Frank so much he got the guy to chase him and I swear it was just a solid 5 minutes of him cursing Frank away. And the scene when Creator takes off his mask in front of Earth? That's just magnificent.

I'm probably missing stuff cause I'm still so very behind on the lore but I'm making steady progress. If anyone wants to add anything more to Sun Propaganda please do.

Tbh I feel like every fandom I've ever so much as dipped my feet into have been like this. Anti-shipper and eventually anti-minor. I've had my fair share of

😡 "YoU ShOulDn'T LiKe ThAT iT's BaD." 😡

I've seen this constantly but usually just avoid it entirely because while I like to chat and talk about stuff I mostly don't really create tons of fan content.

In part, it has mostly to do with feeling generally unsafe of the outcomes if I do publicly publish any fan created media. Especially if it's anything to do with my deeply personal interests. So I stick to pretty simple stuff all things considered (the occasional fanart or unpublished wip in my docs...😅)

I think there's a great point here, Why fight and why on this? The fandom in question is something founded around content made for general audiences with the foundational backbone of a horror video game that's rated E for everyone.

At the end of the day there will be minors especially for shows like this. I think minors can and should be included but I'm also realistic too. Not everyone should have to police the content they want to make just for the sake a minor might see it but also it's reasonable to not really want to ever interact with minors online too.

☠️Kids are NOT taught internet safety anymore and it REALLY shows.☠️

That doesn't mean it falls on the shoulders of random strangers to keep every kid from spaces in the name of protecting them. I have a lot of feelings about this actually...

Plus... Why hate on ships? Like you went and put personal time and effort to tell a random stranger online they can't like when the robots kiss and get a little funky? I go on AO3 daily, the tsams AO3 is still TAME compared to the things I've seen in other fandoms. So idk, I just can't stand when ppl police what other people like. It's such a waste of time and effort. And honestly downright pathetic, like heaven forbid people have hobbies.

Btw I'm an avid shipper and there's some FOOD on ao3. Thank you tsams writers for feeding me.🙏🍽️

Also on topic to opinions on the fandom being harassing and toxic, I really only started watching tsams etc maybe... Two months ago? So right before all this drama came out. I can honestly say if I went to Tumblr to see all the harassing stuff and drama coming out and that was my first impression I would not do anything community wise. There'd be no brainrot or fanarts or anything. I probably would drop the series too (it's kind of why I don't enjoy my hero anymore)

Thankfully I'm just a ☀️Sun simp☀️ and my fellow ☀️Sun simps☀️ know what's up and they've really helped me to have a good introduction and good time as a fandom newbie.

I think the best thing we can do is just kill the haters with kindness it's what Sun would want ✨🌞✨

Hello. This is about the drama about TSBS.

Okay, I’ve seen the posts. I’ve seen the tweets from the Tumblr posts.

And I hate it. I have it so f#cking much.

When I first came to TSBS and started interacting with the fandom, I was happy, and I loved posting and talking with other people. But now… this crap has gone too far.

I know that this is all about shipping, and about how “minors don’t belong” and other crap, but… why?? Has anyone ever just took a step back and thought: “Why are we fighting about this?”

Like, imagine that you’re a younger person, coming onto your first fandom ever, only to get yelled at and gross stuff shoved in your face. It happens so often that it forces you to leave. Permanently.

I DON’T want that to happen. To ANYONE, EVER. Period. But it probably has. And it probably will continue unless someone does something. And I want to be that someone.

I know that the VAs have told everyone to “just drop the drama” but it doesn’t seem to be working. I know the VAs have said that they won’t get involved, so I’ll do that for them.

I want, and I’m sure EVERYONE wants to come to a fandom that’s safe, and where the feel free to post what they want. Shippers and Minors alike.

I would like anyone who sees this post to comment/reboot their story on the fandom drama, and what they personally think about it. I want to hear a story from BOTH sides.

Please do not fight in the comments/reblogs, do not name drop, and be respectful of others and their opinions. I want to get a fandom back that’s nicer and respects others. No more biased or whatever. Please guys.

We just got LAES back… but if we keep up like this, we might just loose the fandom into one giant hell-hole.

You said nothing wrong! It makes sense for Eclipse to do that sort of thing. And with what Sun said in today's episode, you could easily be right.

Sorry, I wanted to post this sooner but my brain has been out of it for some reason for the past few days. It still is today, really, but I couldn't wait any longer to say something when I heard Sun ask those things.

Okay. So this is serious and important.

Let's talk about "Eclipse is a nobody" episode.

TW/CW: su*c*de, manipulation, abuse

(post under the cut)

So I've been seeing that a lot of people were saying that Eclipse is su*c*dal. And I've been thinking about this and "Eclipse is a nobody" episode a lot.

And please don't hate me for what I'm about to say. At first I'll ask you this question: Isn't it even a little bit suspicious that our boys found out that star is basically killing Eclipse after Sun finally was able to talk back and stand up to Eclipse who abused him?

For me it seems very suspicious. Don't get me wrong. Su*c*de is a serious topic and we should take signs of it seriously.

But there is also the other side of it. Some people may use su*c*de as a threat and that's a form of manipulation. I think that Eclipse isn't su*c*dal. And I think that he only manipulates situation once again. Because doesn't that scene felt a little bit like: "oh poor Eclipse, he has no purpose in his life and he's in pain" and people immidiately feel pity towards Eclipse. And that's not entirely a wrong and bad thing. What I'm trying to say is that for me it seems that Sun didn't feel well with that situation. And I'm afraid that he might regret what he said to Eclipse. Even if he shouldn't.

Even if it would turn out to be true that Eclipse is in fact su*c*dal it isn't Sun's fault. I think that Eclipse isn't su*c*dal because there aren't any signs of it. If they'd show more signs that Eclipse is in fact su*c*dal then I'll take back my words.

But for now to me it looks more like a manipulation rather than anything else. Because like I said that I think that Eclipse is trying to manipulate Sun into believing that he's evil. And this situation works well for that because Eclipse may seem more like a victim, someone we should pity etc. And Sun could easily think that he caused Eclipse to feel like that. That he hurt Eclipse with his words so much that now Eclipse may consider taking his own life. And it may end up with Sun feeling even worse about himself, blaming himself for whatever is happening with Eclipse even more.

And if what I've said about Eclipse using Moon's computer for his advantage is true than it really makes sense that this whole situation is only an emotional manipulation. Because don't you think that everything that happened in that episode was too fitting for it to be truly just a coincidence?

And once again, please don't hate me for this. I just have a really hard time to believe that Eclipse is su*c*dal with all of his manipulations, gaslighting and abuse he inflicts onto others.

You're free to discuss this with me but in a civil manner of course, please and thank you.

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Heyyyyy, fun fact!!

EAPS Sun and SAMS Sun are both COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!! So is both the Moons!

SAMS Sun was actually kind and considerate of both Moon and Eclipse when he was stuck with them. He suggested that they had 12 hours each in control of the body, that's half a day each everyday. He didn't have too, it was technically his body to begin with. But he was still willing to share even when Moon hurt him their first encounter. And even after when Moon continued to hurt and abuse him in Suns head and everything, Sun was still willing to share. He only stopped bc Moon was proving to be a danger to other people aswell as himself. After all they were both owned by Fazbear, if they wanted they could just kill Moon his behaviour. So in a way, Sun fighting against Moon was a way to protect the people of the pizzaplex aswell as Moon himself.

Despite being hurt and abused he never planned on trapping Moon in his head, he only did that bc Moon was harming humans and was getting both of them in trouble

The whole thing with Eclipse is a bit different but still the same, Sun never wanted Eclipse to be trapped in his head(same with Moon) he even asked Moon if they could maybe try and be friends with Eclipse and help him be free. But that was shut down by Moon bc he seemed Eclipse too big of an arsehole to deserve freedom, saying that the only thing Eclipse deserved was death. He would mention how eclipse was so horrible but never mentioned most of the shit Eclipse said. And since Sun has never spoken to Eclipse face to face at that point, he could only believe what Moon said(since Moon constantly preached that he was better and smarter, that gave Sun no room to doubt Moon) and after a while those things were backed up by Eclipse having Sun wake up in the most horrible places, and hurting him by forcing control. Eclipse soon started talking to Sun as sort of a voice you hear in the back of your head when you're making decisions ect.

When Moon punched Sun and blamed him for Eclipses actions and even for his own wrong doings, Sun realised that maybe Moon was wrong and was lying to him about more then just him abandoning some kill code. So Sun made the decision that it was time for him to reach out rather then wait for Eclipse to do it like Moon did. And he held out his hand for Eclipse, to be his friend. He apologised and tried to help Eclipse be free and happy. I believe he even mentioned how they could share the body fairly if Eclipse promised to not hurt people. Despite the pain he knew he would be in and the suffering he has experienced due to Moon and Eclipse, he was still willing to help. But Eclipse denied it, just like Moon.

Whilst SAMS creator is at fault for Moons and Eclipses imprisonment, and horrible self entirely, it was Moon and Eclipses fault for refusing help. They're the way they are bc they chose to treat people like that, and they never even thought of there being anyone who wasn't like Sun, someone who would deal with their shit. Moon and Eclipse are naturally bad people and it is partially their fault for not being liked and being so horrible in general. Just bc you're naturally made to be bad doesn't mean you're incapable of being a better person. Doesn't mean you can't be a good person. Especially since they were both equally smart. They chose to continue behaving the way they did, and in result of that, they suffered from their mistakes because it. And yet through all of this, despite how much they broke him, despite how much he dislikes them. Sun still cares in some way, he's still considerate, kind, forgiving and willing to help when asked(if they prove to be kind about it)

EAPS Sun is completely different. Sure they both were very energetic at the start, but EAPS Sun(Sunshine) is very selfish and uncaring of Moon

Moon is kinda nice from what I've seen in EAPS and is trying to be understanding of Sunshine. He's trying to reach out to solve this problem he has with Sunshine and help him feel more comfortable with Moons existence. Sunshine doesn't like sharing, he doesn't care about how he makes others feel and quite frankly doesn't care about how they react to him all that much. He is willing to keep his other half trapped and imprisoned bc he doesn't care, he's happy to just have Moon rot in their head.

That doesn't mean sunshine is a bad person but he isn't good either. Quite frankly he is behaving like a fucking bitch and it's understandable. He behave more like a child then he does a mature adult.(how he care for kids I don't know)

Sunshine didn't want to share and was very adamant on keeping the other locked away, not for protection but simply for his own enjoyment and freedom.

Idk much about him so I can't say much, and whilst all the things I want to say can't be put in words right now, it very clear just how different the two are. Sun is ultimately better then Sunshine and honestly I think the things Eclipse says about Sun is purely his beliefs. It's not true tho, you can believe something and it not be true. He believes that his Sun is bad and all these horrible thing and should be hated just as equally as his Moon. But that's not true, whilst it's understandable for him to be angry at and hate Moon, he has no reason to dislike Sun other then the fact that it's Suns head that he was trapped in. At even then it isn't Suns fault. Eclipse knew how yo reach out to Sun and he knew that Sun didn't know how to reach out to Eclipse. So it isn't Suns fault that Eclipse and Moon gave him no reason to like either of them when they were stuck in his head. But he still showed so much care for them both.

I don't think what Eclipse says about Sun is true, nd quite frankly I think he still is a huge arsehole, even if he's gotten better he still refuses to try and at least understand the differences between his Sun and the Sunshine. The more he interacts with Sunshine the more he hates Sun. Same as to how he hates Moons due to his interactions with his Moon.

So yeah, please tell me people actually notice that EAPS Sunshine and SAMS Sun are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT in so many ways...