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My answer to every question: why not both? I argue semantics because specificity matters, and I tend to take things literally because my brain is spicy as heck. Also, I can't spell. My job is library. I'm moospen on AO3, if you like fanfic.

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It's Genuinely Wild To Me That The Song People Have Latched Onto To Prove Or Disprove Any Relationship

It's genuinely wild to me that the song people have latched onto to prove or disprove any relationship Jimin may or may not have is the one he didn't write, imo the songs seem to all be alternate universe options of what his love life could be, that just makes the most sense to me because they mostly can't coexist, they're not stories which really make sense to all be literally true, but if any are true it being the one he didn't write is such an odd choice for everyone to be assuming, I'd guess the things which are true for him are a lot more likely to be found in songs he did write himself but no one seems interested in dissecting them like they are with Who, you seem to have got so many asks focusing on Who, or idk maybe those are just the ones you're posting, but other blogs too, I don't get the focus being on this song when talking about Jimin himself

Hey Anon,

Yeah heaps of asks about WHO and honestly, you should see the drivel I'm ignoring 🤦‍♂️

I think its because of both the pronouns (any straw to clutch at will do, especially if you can be wilfully blind to everything else), and also because the song & MV together provide such a wealth of interpretations ....and opportunities to misunderstand. And as Jiminie - the Slytherin that he is - predicted, many people want to oblige him with their misunderstandings HAHA.

(eta it's also entirely in English and while all listeners may not be fluent English speakers, it makes this song more accessible to a western audience.)

You can't really debate the truth or otherwise of the other songs on the album the way you can with WHO. That song is designed to cause chaos. Even the title is all about creating tension.

So many inane generic asks that have obviously been sent far and wide too. How much time do these people have on their hands? Do they really need to spam everyone? I just want to be a jikook hobbit - in my hobbit hole writing my little notes, cooing over the lovebirds, and eating several breakfasts.

Is that so much to ask?

Lol

It's Genuinely Wild To Me That The Song People Have Latched Onto To Prove Or Disprove Any Relationship
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9 months ago

Jikook moments that Bangtan could’ve played off as nothing but instead just made it worse:

1. Nj:*translates jm* Oh he said he wants to be a police officer

   Jk: Arrest me

   Bangtan: 

   Bangtan:

   Bangtan: ….ok

2. Jm: *points to his cheek* Jungkook-ah, kiss!

   Jk:

   Bangtan:

   Big Hit: …*crops the damn vid so that it skips the next few seconds*

3. V: What’s jimin gonna give jungkook (for his birthday)?

   Jm:

Jikook Moments That Bangtan Couldve Played Off As Nothing But Instead Just Made It Worse:

   Jk:

   Nj:

   Bangtan:

Jikook Moments That Bangtan Couldve Played Off As Nothing But Instead Just Made It Worse:

4. Jk: When i came here (to Japan) with jimin…

    Hobi: *tries to cut him off* wow so interesting, here’s your present

   Jk: *laughs*

   Jk: *continues anyway* the most memorable part of our trip was that we should’ve woken up early but this *points thumb at jimin’s general direction* hyung was busy playing with his phone till morning so we woke up late *giggles like it’s the funniest thing* *looks around expectantly*

  Jm: c:

   Jin: …ohhh *looks at namjoon, unimpressed*

   Nj: …ohhh *Big Sigh*

5. Jikook: *filming gcf saipan alone at the beach*

   Nj: what are those two doing???

   Nj: *records them*

   Nj: *posts it on twitter, captioned “what are you doing”*

   Jk: *replies by posting a vid of him giggling while editing a silly clip of jimin playing in the water with John K’s Best of Me playing in the bg*

   Nj: (probably regrets it lmao)

6. Jikook: *anytime they mention tokyo trip*

   Nj:

   Hobi:

Bangtan:

Jikook Moments That Bangtan Couldve Played Off As Nothing But Instead Just Made It Worse:

7. Jk: the thing i like most about jm is… His shamelessness?

   Bangtan: ohh

   Jm: shamelessness? I’m not shameless tho?

   Jk: you’re being shameless now

   Jm: so that’s why you like me more now?

   Jk: ……….

   Jk: … *nods*

   Jk: ……. *Changes subject* He treats me well

   Bangtan: suddenly??

8. Jm: we’re the same! You are me, i am you~

   Jk: *giggly*

   Nj: *resigned to his third-wheeling fate*

Jikook Moments That Bangtan Couldve Played Off As Nothing But Instead Just Made It Worse:

9. Jk: Destiny?

   Jm: i told you, you are me, i am you

   Bangtan:

Jikook Moments That Bangtan Couldve Played Off As Nothing But Instead Just Made It Worse:

10. Jk: *teases jm*

   Jm: *gets shy and hits jk in retaliation*

   Jin, third-wheeling: why wont you hit me too? Dont treat me differently! Hit me too!

11. Jk: *reads his fortune cookie to jm* Jimin-ah,-

    Jm: *giggles*

    Jk: its okay if you’re not no. 1- where are you going??

    Jin: I’M LEAVING

12. Jikook: *wearing matching clothes*

    Nj:

Jikook Moments That Bangtan Couldve Played Off As Nothing But Instead Just Made It Worse:

13. Jm: *gives jk his ring since he isnt wearing one*

    Jk: *shows it off* do you know what this ring means? Noone else can touch it. It’s special/precious.

    Bangtan: *panics* *flustered* *chaos*

14. Jikook: *all giggles and smiles while playing the palm pushing game*

    Nj:

Jikook Moments That Bangtan Couldve Played Off As Nothing But Instead Just Made It Worse:
Jikook Moments That Bangtan Couldve Played Off As Nothing But Instead Just Made It Worse:

Jin:

Jikook Moments That Bangtan Couldve Played Off As Nothing But Instead Just Made It Worse:
9 months ago

Hi, i dont know how to start it. But let me just come straight to point, like the way jungkook said they will make 12 season of them travelling. It remind of how real Couples make their trip video or vlogs and post on youtube like that couple from His man and now from The Boyfriend netflix show. After seeing ep1 and 2, it just come to my mind like it might be their way of telling the world not directly but indirectly about their relationship. Don't take me wrong. I am not saying they are dating or a couple, but they can be why not.

And lot of love to the show. Love to u and Jikook ❣️❣️

Hey Anon,

I also loved that! 12 seasons of this would be so much fun. And I believe they did make a couple vlog already - don't forget GCF Tokyo! Sure there are plenty of people who will deny what is obvious... but life has always been like that. Don't forget in the 1600s, Galileo was arrested for stating that the earth revolved around the sun. (The church at the time insisted the earth was the centre of the universe).

The fact that they're making ANOTHER travel vlog is hilarious if you look at these type videos as a way for same sex couples to show the world they're together - like you say, with the guys from His Man 2 - junseongho.

It's almost like JM & JK are having another go at this, since people didnt believe them before 😂.

"You all clearly missed it the first time so we'll show you again..."

And this time they're using their own love songs as the OST, holding hands on screen, staying in a tiny cabin with only one bed and are visibly so comfortable together, just the two of them, that its clearly not their first rodeo (thanks for that most appropriate phrase JK😂)

I don't know if they can be any more obvious, really...

💛👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨💜

9 months ago

Slow Dance by Jimin & Sophia

What an absolutely stunning performance of Slow Dance by Jimin and Sophia Carson. Sophia's beautiful voice was a perfectly chosen addition to this song.

Kamsahamnida Sophia 💛

And it ended with possibly the most chaste hug in history from our polite and respectful Jiminie.

Slow Dance By Jimin & Sophia

He extended an invitation for Sophia to accept to the extent she chose.

Slow Dance By Jimin & Sophia

Jimin's manners hands not even making contact, and his face turned away.

Would all those delinquents who describe him as a womaniser care to explain?


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9 months ago

I'm on my way to confess

Before all the antis arrive, let's check the translations...

Both Papago and Google Translate say Jimin is on his way to confess.

I'm On My Way To Confess
I'm On My Way To Confess

I was suspicious as soon as I read the subs on the video, because Koreans don't use gendered pronouns.

I'm On My Way To Confess

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9 months ago

https://x.com/jmnberries/status/1817503692083396934

LOUD AND CLEAR

Said by Jimin himself. He's searching for the person he's meant to be with, the one his heart is waiting for. He passes one person after another thinking is it you or you. And guess what ? IT WAS ALWAYS A WOMAN.

You and your theory about WHO proven wrong for 975939488848th time 😛

My goodness Anon, are you telling me my theory has been discussed that many times? That's quite an achievement! I didn't know my theories - or I - had such a far reaching impact.

[basking in the glow of this proud moment]

Ok I'm done basking, now back to the ask:

For those of you playing along at home, here's the tweet Anon sent in, for context.

Https://x.com/jmnberries/status/1817503692083396934

Anon, I'm going to quote you, since you said it so succinctly...

"He passes one person after another thinking 'is it you or you'. And guess what ? IT WAS ALWAYS A WOMAN."

Absolutely correct Anon!

It WAS always a woman

I'm glad we agree on this.

You also said "He's searching for the person he's meant to be with, the one his heart is waiting for."

Yes! We agree on this too!

He's definitely working hard to find the one his heart is waiting for - you said it yourself, he's searching. He's actively looking for them.

We're doing well so far...

Oh but context is important here, right??

We should probably clarify that he's actually describing the last scene of the MV - the one he's about to film. He's not describing himself or his own life.

Yes, to be totally transparent, Jimin is describing a scene he's shooting for the MV of a song - a song he asked Jon Bellion to write. A song he himself didn't contribute to beyond that. He didn't write the visual narrative for the MV either, that was the creatives at Lumpens. No doubt he gave a lot of input but he didn't provide the material.

Did you forget that part, Anon? Or did you think he was actually describing his own life? Or... were you sneakily pretending he was talking about his real life when he said those things, because that suited your argument?

If you were trying to make it sound like he was talking about his own personal lived experiences, that kinda sucks. Because we love Jimin for WHO HE IS. We don't need to make shit up about his life and pretend things are real when they aren't.

We don't need to pretend, Anon, we can just observe, write about what we see - honestly and objectively and without judgement - and then step back and look at the situation.

I guess you might be wondering how come I'm analysing everything if I think we should just be talking about what we see. Fair call. I don't mean that we can't read between the lines or make educated (substantiated) guesses that we can back up with facts (and cite our sources - I am a librarian after all). I also don't mean we can't look deeper than the surface. There are always layers of meaning and hidden messages in the art produced for BTS. I get right into it because I enjoy it - my background is in visual arts analysis so it's kinda my jam - but I'm not just making shit up. I have a wealth of learning and experience I'm basing my analysis on. I'm also not claiming that it's fact - it's an interpretation - It's my interpretation (and just quietly I am pretty good at this stuff so it's a justified and plausible interpretation).

What I'm saying is don't purposefully misinterpret what you see to mislead, or to fuel an opinion or argument that doesn't stand up otherwise. If you have to bend the truth to back up your argument, you might want to reconsider that argument. Theory is built on evidence, not the other way around.

But back to Jimin...

Of course it's perfectly possible that he did spend several years thinking he would one day find true love with a woman. Maybe he dated loads of women. Maybe he came close to finding a deep love with one or more of them. And if he did, I hope those were happy times for him (or at least meaningful times if happiness was elusive). I would never think of denying that if I saw evidence of it, or judging him for who he loves (or loved). I don't think there's any wrong or right here - whether it's heterosexual or bisexual or asexual or gay or queer or into kink or poly or whatever else he is or does. Who he fucks or who he loves or who he feels emotionally safe with - and for many of us humans those are not necessarily even the same people - that's his business.

His life, his body, his business.

I don't judge Jimin. I just admire and celebrate him for who he is.

And I wish him happiness.

I wish them both so, so much happiness.

That's the whole point of all of this, really.

That's why I watch Jimin and Jungkook together, Anon. Not because I want them to be together or because I think they should be, but because I see real happiness when they are together.

True happiness and true love are rare and beautiful things.

I think that's why most of us Jikookers are here, Anon. Because the joy we see and the delight we feel, just from witnessing these two beautiful people being happy, is real.

I'm not saying ALL of us are altruistic. Some Jikookers are full of shit. They covet one or both of them and they think supporting Jikook's relationship entitles them to make judgements or assumptions or claims about Jimin and JK. They get possessive, they objectify, they demand things. Some people who claim to support Jikook have spite and hatred in their hearts... yes, we have our share of nut jobs too.

But the majority of genuine Jikook supporters I encounter are simply here to celebrate the greatest love story we've ever seen. We're here to get behind two beautiful men who clearly love each other despite the odds against them. We're here to bask in the reflection of their glow and it's bloody wonderful.

But, I digress....

Let's go back to the making of the MV for WHO...

Https://x.com/jmnberries/status/1817503692083396934

<and here I go again with the analysis>

Here Jimin describes the MV, just like when talking about the final scene. He says it's like a musical movie.

"Right now we're filming one of my favourite parts. It's like a musical movie." There's definitely a narrative here, it's the part where he joins 6 other male dancers, an obvious nod to BTS.

We already know there 's a narrative, but Jimin confirms it for us here.

So let's look again at the narrative:

Throughout this production we can see that the dance (not choreographed by Jimin) and the lyrics (not written by Jimin) have been created/chosen to show /tell us that Jimin (the performer) is searching among all these women for the love of his life.

THAT'S *PART* OF THE STORY THEY ARE TELLING.

But it leaves out a pretty big development ...

He was searching for love, looking at every woman just as he was supposed to, but someone (WHO?) crashed into his life and stopped him in his tracks. Yes, that someone fell directly into his path in a way that couldn't be ignored.

Jimin said

"I try to see WHO I'm meant to be with... is it you? Is it you?"

It doesn't sound like he was giving anyone much of a chance, does it? It sounds more like he was searching for someone in particular.

Maybe it was no accident. Maybe he was searching for WHO all along and he just didn't realise, until he found him.

Https://x.com/jmnberries/status/1817503692083396934

Ok I am done talking (finally)

I'll finish responding to this ask so we can all go on with our lives.

To respond to your specific query, Anon:

Jimin doesn't say he's searching for a woman himself, does he? Not even in that quote you supplied.

He could have said "women walk past me" but he said "people walk past me".

He could have said he's trying to see which of these women he's meant to be with, but instead he said "who I'm meant to be with"

We can't ignore him saying WHO, Anon.

The song isn't called Which woman?

The song is called WHO

Https://x.com/jmnberries/status/1817503692083396934
Https://x.com/jmnberries/status/1817503692083396934

Anon, if you stuck with me all the way through this post, I commend you.

And yes, I was a bit facetious in the beginning, in my defence I had a shitty day at work. But I responded to you as the adult I imagine you to be, even though your language was a little on the childish side. I assume you were intending to piss me off but I enjoyed answering to your ask, so thank you regardless.

If you are still here I want to ask you a few genuine questions in return... I'd love to hear your honest answer.

Why, in the face of all the evidence, it's so difficult to accept that Jimin and Jungkook have a bond that goes beyond friendship or brotherhood?

They look like they're vey happy together, so why do you want them to not be together?

Why is it a problem for you if they love each other? Homophobia is learned behaviour. Who did you learn it from?

And probably my most burning question:

Have you ever experienced true, deep, lasting love?


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