THIS. THIS IS WHAT PISSES ME OFF THE MOST ABOUT THE SHOW

THIS. THIS IS WHAT PISSES ME OFF THE MOST ABOUT THE SHOW

At this rate, this "show" is more like a play with dolls. Astruc just grabs whatever person suits the role (just barely) and cranks their personality to a hundred in order to get the current story going, and once the episode is done, everything resets until the next one.

Funny how everyone started responding to Chloe's insults instead of ignoring her like they did previous seasons

Like why was Adrien scolding Chloe when she said Marinette was in love with him, and why was Marinette sad?? I feel like Marinette and Adrien would smirk and Marinette would say something like "thanks for noticing Chloe!", what I loved from her relationship with Chloe is how sassy she was with her

Remember kids, being the bigger person is for losers. If someone insults you, insult them back! Acting out like this clearly won't get you in trouble.

I hated this about ML. Adrien is clearly shown as a victim of abuse, but instead of acknowledging it and using it to add depth to his character, he's just treated as the sidekick. And instead of facing his complicated feelings towards Gabriel, Gabriel gets a statue in the new world and a speech from Ms. Bustier about how he's a hero. Blegh.

About representation of child abuse in ML

I’m sorry if this isn’t the proper way to send it I chose it because I can actually divide paragraphs here. I am also assuming none of the abuse submissions are reblogged because of the subject.  I was neglected as a child(parents often forgot to feed me, didn’t care about my hygiene and I couldn’t go to the doctor when I should have) and emotionally abused after coming out as trans as a young teen(constantly being pressured to stop being trans, treating me as stupid and melodramatic for being trans at all, showing open disgust if I did something “too manly” etc.). I was a bully for two years in middle school before realizing the weight of what I was doing. I had to put in a lot of effort to improve, especially since guilt was feeding into already-existing self-hatred. When I first saw Miraculous Ladybug on TV I didn’t expect child abuse to come up at all since it’s a hard topic even for adults and Miraculous didn’t seem like the show to tackle a complicated topic. Looking back they shouldn’t have tried because they end up giving incredibly bad messages. As you point out Chloe is treated as irredeemable and sent off with her abusive parent as punishment while Andre is never treated as the neglectful parent he is. While children can be abusive to their parents Andre is the mayor of Paris while Chloe is a kid, he holds a lot of power here that he refuses to use at all. He also doesn’t try to get Chloe psychological help which would be the correct course of action seeing her mother despite the fact it wouldn’t even make a dent in his pocket. It would be better to either have Chloe’s redemption fail while highlighting how her parents affect her behaviour but don’t justify it or have a straightforward redemption arc, maybe one where she doesn’t get forgiven but still improves to show kids there’s a way out. “I will always be like this because of abuse” is an easy thought to fall into and ML accidentally ends up teaching it to kids, Jesus. The other thing that really bugs me is the treatment Gabriel gets, it seems to me that the show tries to use his love for his wife and son as a redeeming quality but I am not sure on how good an idea that is. It’s better than if he were to hate Adrien but loving Adrien doesn’t excuse any of the things he does. In my experience most abusive parents do love their children, they really think they are doing the best for their kids. The kicker comes in when they end up harming their children in some way but refuse to acknowledge it. If your parents always end up doing more harm than good and refuse to stop, then love alone can’t save it. I don’t think that point was there as Gabriel’s love was portrayed as a good thing because this show doesn’t do nuance. Also the plot Gabriel abusing Adrien should mainly be about how Adrien feels. Of course it will affect other characters but Adrien is the one getting abused by Gabriel. Gabriel is also an incredibly controlling parent who takes away Adrien’s agency and the show never really addresses that. Adrien is a bystander in a story-arc about him getting abused. He never learns that Gabriel is Hawk Moth(writers seem to think we forgot Chat Blanc and even then that episode was more about “Ooo hero gets akumatized”), we never learn his thoughts about the whole situation and Gabriel completely gets his way in the end, leading to a happy ending. Adrien’s contribution to the finale is giving up the agency he had left. This really left a sour taste in my mouth. If you’re not going to deal with how abuse affects Adrien, why write it in at all?

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First of all, I’d like to thank you for being able to step forward and talk about your history with your parents. I’m very sorry that you had to go through that.

Second of all, you make a good point with how much the show empasizes Gabriel’s love for his family supposedly justifying his terrible actions, with or without the mask. It doesn’t help that, like you said, he doesn’t even get to confront Gabriel about their relationship himself, and ends the season believing all the delusions Gabriel had about him being a good father. 

Hell, even the movie does a better job at pointing out how much Gabriel has hurt his son over the show itself, and I’m pretty sure that’s why so many people prefer that version of Gabriel over this one. 

I’m not sure if you were aware so I was curious what your thoughts were regarding this bit of info that was revealed when the Bible was first leaked

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Could have fooled me, as Nathalie showed no signs of wanting to betray Gabriel until Season 5.

I can see what you mean, but the issue is that even Chloé's damnation is done bad. She just gets kicked off the hero team, and then is suddenly acting like the scourge of the earth with next to no build up to it. I love Chloé, but if she's going to fall, then damn it I wanna see every branch she snags and every rock she hits before she lands at the bottom of the pit, because a damnation arc needs to show every bloody detail of her downfall.

Honestly, I do not blame Chloe being more evil and a villian. Yes, she gotten a chance, but from people who don't even trust her and refused to even trust her.

Example: Imagine getting a chance to not eat a cookie (after you eated them all before.), Then your parent is like: "I SEE YOU IN THE KITCHEN!!" And you like: "Dude, calm down. I am just getting my food."

And where everything you think is fine is dandy and dory. Your parents spread your ex-cookie habits to the entire school, even the cafeteria banned the whole cookies, just because of the most little trust there is... about you... And then your BEST friend, who loves cookies and eats them everyday, starting to stay away from you and told you that you are selfish. Yes, you were selfish, but you changed. But, now... this is your life, not getting trusted by anybody, not even your school counselor, your parents and even your best friend... And then this person came in, which is your half-sister, sobbing and gets to eat all of the cookies... All because of her pitiable story.

(I feel like i am not describing this correctly, lol - I tried.)

No, I think I get what you're trying to say, and you make a good point.

It can be very hard to see past someone's crimes, and I feel like the show never really understands this kind of mentality, especially when it comes to Chloe. Nobody's saying she's perfect, but it feels like nobody ever tries to at least acknowledge the few good things she's done, and acts like she's been nothing but pure evil this whole time.

It's only really noticeable because of how every redemption in this show is just, "I may have gone along with a lot of evil things, but I don't want to be evil anymore, and that means I don't have to face punishment!"

If you want to hold Chloe accountable for her crimes, you need to apply the same standards to the other villains, or else you'll look biased and teach a bad lesson about judging others to children watching.

Thought that since I realized everyone wanted to be Ladybug and no one gave a damn about Cat Noir

When S6 starts airing, they should do us a favor and be more truthful... by taking Cat Noir's name out of the title because the show clearly doesn't consider him a protagonist anymore

Just imagine if Season 6 opens with Cat Noir saying this.

I'm curious. If a person gets two spouses, and neither spouse is aware, do all three of them get arrested for polygamy? Or just the one person?