What Are Your Unpopular TMNT Opinions?

What Are Your Unpopular TMNT Opinions?

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I don’t love TMNT 2003.

Before watching this version, many fans said 2003 series was the best version. I didn’t have a lot of TMNT content to watch so I tried it(with some high expectations). I really liked it and had a fun time watching it, but I wouldn’t say it’s the best version- there isn’t a best version imo. I had some issues with it such as some intriguing moments from the show that wasn’t further explored like Leo’s first loss, and traumatic injuries from the Shredder and Donnie’s reaction of the alternative universe in Same As It Never Was. They were good but I needed more. Season 6 and 7 were not great and was tough to go through because of the sudden tone and art style change.

Though, it’s my second favorite version so far.

I like 2012 April.

I already made a post about this so I will shorten my explanation.

I have many reasons, but I’m going to say only two or three reasons since I don’t wanna bore you guys to death.

I don’t hate April because she is a victim of bad writing. TMNT 2012 has overall great writing, but there were some mistakes. Apritello is a big example.

When I ignore the bad moments, April is a really good character. Is she my favorite? No, but she had great potential.

Rise has one of the best family dynamics.

When I watch the show, I can tell that the Turtles love each other no matter what, which is a big thing in the fandom. I enjoyed their brotherly relationships since their was rarely an physical confrontation between them compared to how much 2012 Raph hits the other brothers. I don’t like hitting people, unless I need to protect myself, so I always felt a bit uncomfortable with all the hitting in TMNT 2012. I’m not saying TMNT 2012 had bad brother relationships, it’s my favorite because the raw moments the turtles had always warmed my heart. If it happened too often, the moments would have less of an impact.

I think TMNT 2003 went a bit downhill after season 4.

I feel like the storylines after season 4 were not as good. They focused mostly on mystical things, which is fine, but having so many versions of the Shredder was annoying for me. I know it might sound rude, but I think the show should have ended after season 4.

The 2003 Same As It Never Was storyline was not executed as greatly as it could be.

I feel so bad for critiquing the 2003 version since it looks like I don’t like the series. That’s not true, I really like the series and I applaud it for doing storylines like SAINW and Leo’s PTSD.

The reason why I don’t feel like SAINW didn’t live up to its full potential is because of the length of episodes it could have taken and how it didn’t seem to bother Donatello afterwards.

If SAINW was not added in the Ultimate Draco storyline, I think more episodes like an extra one would have been a better idea. The episode felt pretty rushed and I really wanted to learn more about the future like what happened to Casey, why Hun and Stockman betrayed Shredder, and the circumstances right before Future Donnie disappeared.

Leo’s storyline collided with Donnie’s potential character growth, which makes me upset. I adore Leo’s growth, but the other brothers had so much potential. Maybe some hints of Donnie’s fear of the future or the brothers being separated would have made up for it, but it didn’t happen. All the future Turtles’ deaths didn’t seem to affect Donnie like I thought it would.

2012 Fugitoid should have passed away.

I feel so bad for saying this, but for the better of the story, Fugitoid coming back to life was not a great choice. I love Honeycutt, but his sacrifice would have had a lot of impact on the reality of heroes dying. 2003 TMNT did this really well. Some good people died and it symbolized how dangerous and important it is to fight for what is right.

TMNT 2003 had too many characters, which ruined some development for more important ones.

I feel pretty bad for criticizing TMNT 2003 so much, but I still really like it. Every cartoon has its flaws and I’ve noticed more on TMNT 2003 since I’ve been binging it.

Anyway, the show has too many arcs and characters. Too much for any to gain development. Like the Rat King. I would’ve loved to see him more since he was so interesting. And the Monster from season 4. I was so upset when we didn’t get back to him. He deserved a happy ending, and his story would have been great development for Bishop, good or bad.

2012 Karai’s redemption arc was not handled that great.

To be honest, her arc was always a bit shaky to me. What surprised me most was how fast Karai’s mind was changed. All her life the Shredder was her father, but when almost once Splinter revealed the truth, she switched. I don’t think that would’ve happened so soon since, usually, kids that handle trauma like that kind of try to rationalize or try to make sense of it all. It would have been better if Karai was having this mental battle as she was working with the Shredder. She would be neutral though because she doesn’t want to hurt the Turtles and Splinter if what they said was true.

2012 Karai is overrated.

Don’t get me wrong, 2012 Karai is my favorite version, but she is not as developed as some people say.

Her arcs with finding the truth about everything and “curing” her of the mutation were not handled well, especially the latter. It took the last halves of season 2 and 3 to save her. Was I only one annoyed that the group looked for so long, only for the retro mutagen to not work? 😑

She’s on my list of wasted great characters along with April and Casey.

In the 2012 series, female characters are not as well written as male characters.

This is one of my complaints with the 2012 series. Most of the female characters were either reduced to love interests or severely sidelined. April and Karai are the biggest victims with this.

April had great potential to be a great character, but the love triangle ruined it. If they solved this plot line already, April’s character wouldn’t have suffered as much. Can’t determine if fans would like her more, but that’s my opinion.

With Karai, she was a love interest at first, but then this Splinter’s daughter plot line happened. Tbh, I think this decision was last minute because I hope to god the creators were not promoting brother/sister romantic relationships of any kind. Anyway, that story was going along until that wild goose chase trying to cure her from the mutation(which didn’t work). After that craziness, she was just sidelined and there was barely any Splinter/Karai moments(one of my biggest disappointments with the show). It would have been amazing to see her journey as the new Shredder, but I don’t blame the creators for that because they had a limited amount of episodes.

2012 April is not op.

Oof.. I’m gonna get so many disagrees on this. 😂

The reason I’m saying this is because of the and my definition of overpowered. Overpower: defeat with superior strength.

While rewatching the show, I looked closely through April’s fights, especially with her powers. Usually, overpowered people defeat supposedly stronger opponents without explanation.

April has rarely beaten someone stronger than her except once with TigerClaw, but with the Dragon’s Tail kick and a sneak attack, not her powers. She used her powers with the Shredder, Shini, Kavaxas, and many more enemies. She lost every time. The only time April won with her powers was against that evil Aeon and it was severely weak.

I would say April is not very close to the fighting level with the Turtles, especially with Raph and Leo. If they went full force on her, she would lose, even with her abilities.

2012 Leo has better characterization than 2003 Leo.

I really like 2003 Leo but he can be pretty bland. He only ever focused on training and meditation. He was also too perfect in some areas. However, S4 made him better in those areas.

With 2012 Leo, I like that he has more interests than training and has a reason why he wants to be the leader. He also messes up and doesn’t get the full swing of being the leader until half way through S2. For me, I think realistic character progression is very important for a show.

I like 2018 April’s design.

I admit, I was shocked when I learned that April’s race was changed, but I have no problems with it. There’s more diversity.

The only thing I don’t like about her design is her hairstyle. I don’t like the pigtails. Much preferred finale look with the high ponytail.

What do you think of the news that Tad Stones is involved in the new Darkwing Duck show.

Is this recent news? I haven’t seen it yet. I like that Tad Stones is involved in the project so the show will have somewhat of the same feeling as the original show.

Anyone else think if ‘91 Drakepad got married they would be similar to Pepa and Félix from Encanto.

Like LP is to Drake, Félix is supportive of Pepa and helps her when she is in emotional distress. Drake and Pepa are emotionally-driven and need non-judgmental partners to feel valid in their negative feelings. Pepa is also a bit narcissistic(not as much as Drake) since in “We Don’t Talk About Bruno” she refers to her and Félix‘s wedding as “my wedding day,” and she gets annoyed when her husband cuts in with his input.

What do you guys think?

I like the Kaldur x Wyynde in season 4 but I’m still not fully on board with their relationship. Tbh, I sometimes wish Kaldur was single instead. I think my problem with their relationship is that Wyynde’s character revolves around Kaldur. For me, I have trouble liking a couple if one of them doesn’t have their own story. I know they couldn’t fit it in but I wish the writers showed us how much being a former purist affects Wyynde instead of telling us that he regrets it. Personally, I need more details. If my wish actually happens in later episodes then I’ll most likely warm up to Kaldur x Wyynde.

Granted, someone could argue my contradiction since I really like La’gann/Coral/Rodunn, but, for me, there is a difference. Compared to Kaldur, La’gann is a minor character we barely know about except that he dated M’gann and is impulsive. With a character like this, I’m not as critical with a love interest who doesn’t have much character since as fans, we mostly fill in the lines on who La’gann is and why he loves his partners.

Kaldur is a main character and knowing what made him love Wyynde would further convince me that Wyynde is a great match for him. I guess I’m used to most major couples having development, and we get to see their reactions like with SuperMartian and Spitfire.

I really enjoy connecting music with characters and I feel like this song (All That Matters by Casey Lee Williams & Jeff Williams) fits well for Pepa and Julieta’s feelings towards Bruno disappearing and coming back.

For me, I think “All That Matters”(https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CSQ8onIioiE) is about someone who is angry with a loved one for disappearing without a word, but still loves them.

These lyrics remind me of Julieta and Pepa not caring about their issues in their relationship with Bruno and are just happy to have him back.

“You're lost, you're found

You're hard to pin down

I never know if you'll come through

Then you appear

Together we're here

And that's all that matters

Somehow”

These lyrics are mostly based on a theory I have. I think Julieta tried to help and connect with Bruno but couldn’t and has regrets for failing after he disappears.

“Thought that I could pull you from the shadows

Maybe help you find your wings and fly

But you're a path the longer that I travel

The more I'm just defeated

My past mistakes repeated

I'll risk it once again to have you near my side

Another chance to let you just destroy my pride”

Hope you guys like my mini analysis! Let me know your thoughts. 😁

Although I’m really enjoying Castlevania so far(I’m currently finished with the 2nd season), I wish Dracula’s defeat was extended to Season 3 instead of done in Season 2. Everything felt so rushed and plot heavy to make it to that point. For me, Trevor, Sypha, and Alucard’s bond didn’t feel as strong as fans made it out to be. They felt like friends by the end but not close enough for me to believe Alucard will miss them a lot. I think two or three more episodes of the trio bonding would’ve made it better. This feeling kind of follows with Trevor x Sypha. I love their moments but I need more of them before they become a couple.

Also, I wish there was more limitations and power scaling done for the characters, mostly for Sypha. I wish there was more development of her strength rather than her being so great with magic without repercussions. For example, when Sypha used the spell to move Dracula’s castle, which is said and shown to be difficult, she didn’t look tired at all and continued to use her magic without difficulty. I like that she is so capable but seeing limitations makes her more realistic and gives her room to grow. I will say her difficulty fighting Dracula helped slightly alleviate that opinion, yet I want to see Sypha struggle and grow. I hope the next two seasons will give me that.