Honestly It's Just Sad To See Sun Compare New Moon To His Old Version

Honestly it's just sad to see sun compare new moon to his old version

The old version was angry Hate-filled and severely depressed

We love the old version but we have quickly accepted the new version as well loving that he's still willing to be wholesome and loving to his brother Despite not knowing Anything beyond the videos and what son had told him

New moon is a different moon a moon that old moon wanted to be

Sun Sadly is failing to see the new moon For who he truly is Sure they have similar qualities as the old moon but he's still different as well much more sweeter And Is more emotional I hope when they talk Sun does start accepting that the old moon is gone but he still has his brother who is much more happier and healthier

I get whatcha mean.

You're exactly right, at the same time though I can't fault Sun for this. For him it's so hard to let go of what happened. He has to remember what old Moon did and put him through, and he sees it a lot in the new Moon, whether he means to or not.

And I know that's not fair to new Moon who is actively trying to be better, and IS doing better. So hopefully Sun will soon talk to Moon about what happened in the past outside of the videos and Moon can gain a better understanding.

This could all easily be solved with communication, even if certain topics are difficult to talk about.

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Agh, I came onto Tumbr way too late! I'm so sorry, for both that and what you're going through. I hope you raised enough to make some kind of difference, and I'll keep you and your health in my thoughts.

I know this probably sounds cliché, but I wouldn't say it if I didn't mean it.

Again, I'm so sorry.

...Actually you said exactly what I was going to say about Moon when it comes to the bottom line. XD Also, thank you for being so understanding. Today I'm doing better than I thought I'd be. :)

You're absolutely right; New Moon honestly IS so much better than Old Moon. He clearly cares and he even told Sun EXACTLY what Lunar said: "you deserve to have your negative feelings heard". Also, even when he barely even knew Sun, he opened up to both him and Earth almost right away when he learned they were his family. Not to mention that in his first big non-lore episode he was working with Earth to try and make Sun laugh.

He's a great brother, but the issues are that he's got a million distractions and... well, on a different note I think he feels that he knows he can't force Sun to tell him about his problems. Sun would constantly deny these problems and if Moon just keeps coming to him just to talk about these issues it could drive a wedge between the two. Sun would become cripplingly anxious whenever Moon is around, and Moon would be endlessly confused and frustrated whenever Sun is around. I've been learning how complex this sort of thing is... quite recently, in fact.

I think Moon's waiting for Sun to come to him, and I've been getting the feeling from the subtext that New Moon has been subtly trying to tell Sun that he's open to hearing and helping his brother. There are just two problems; Sun is refusing to acknowledge his own emotions, and that's one of the first steps in healing. And the second problem is that they, especially Moon, have a million distractions going on that are affecting them, their mental states, and taking up all their time.

As for fans "not caring" about Sun... well, I always read the top comments on the Youtube videos and I honestly haven't seen a single hateful comment directed towards him; the worst I've seen is just neutral. In the "fangirl" video? It's "Miku" that gets the hate and rightfully so!

There probably are some negative comments in there, but they're buried under everything else. The amount of likes on those many comments showing concern for Sun are also telling.

And other videos of tSaMS? Usually least one comment showing concern about Sun almost every time he's being seen suffering, and replies that agree.

Where are you seeing these hateful comments? Discord? I don't know how Discord works, but I've heard it's, uh... not a great community.

I wonder if maybe Discord, the new "hip thing" (OH GOD I feel old for even SAYING that XD), is where the kid fans gather the most? Youtube comments in general may not be the best, either, but I've definitely seen most comments becoming more mature as people grew up.

Maybe some people dislike Sun because his problems can be a little... too relatable. It could be a thing like with Steven Universe Future; it hits home on an uncomfortable level that makes it hard to watch.

I can imagine kid fans seeing Sun as a character that's "getting in the way" of an enjoyable show, and they word it as criticism because most of them can't pick up on the nuances of the characters' behaviors.

Am I exaggerating whenever I say that Sun will "off" himself?

I see so many signs that the show's plot is going in this direction.. and yet I feel like I'm in minority...

Most people tend to focus more on Eclipse and his issues... Yeah, he needs therapy.. but no one can force him to change. He have to want that even if no one would forgive him or no one would like him. It might be harder to want to change but.. it's important to remember that we should always change for ourselves, for our own mental health etc. Eclipse shouldn't take things for granted because this is where the issue lays...

Anyway.. I didn't want to talk about Eclipse. It irks me that people tend to babify Eclipse and vilify Sun at the same time. I guess someone has to be a villain?/s But it frustrates me that people saw that Eclipse is su*c*dal and didn't see that with Sun! They saw it only when it was explicitely pointed out!

I know people probably like Eclipse more than Sun. If not.. Sun's fans are probably hidden somewhere..?

Anyway.. that's not what I wanted to talk about either.

I wanted to point out some of the signs that show really is going with Sun will "off" himself plot:

despite the obvious fact that Sun truly believes that he made everything worse there are also things like:

Earth's comment about Sun's cat liking her so much - Sun may feel like even his cat doesn't love him;

Earth's comment about her anxiety and lower self-esteem due to feeling unsure if she's helpful enough etc. - Sun may feel the need to support her more and shove away his own problems which will result with him not wanting to open up to Earth to not burden her further;

Moon's obliviousness to Sun's struggles - Sun may feel like no one really cares about him;

Moon's quick dismiss of Sun's idea about what to do with Eclipse - Sun may feel like he's efforts are nothing which alongside with

Moon doing most of the tough, important things - reinforces Sun's feelings of being useless and stupid;

Moon obliviousness to the whole situation with that "fangirl" - Sun may feel like Moon doesn't care about him or that his struggles are completely invisible;

Existence of "fans" like that "fangirl" - Sun said "so you're this type of fan" - did he met more fans like her? I'm assuming that yes, he did. - Sun may feel like fans not only doesn't like him but they hate him and either they want him gone or like seeing him suffer which he knows from comments on YT and Discord;

Being left alone with computer often time because Earth is in her room and Moon is going to do most of things needed to help with Eclipse's and creator's situations - computer's attitude towards Sun may worsen his mental state.

All of those things are so little and so easy to go unnoticed but it doesn't mean that they don't hurt Sun. And it's even worse in Earth's and Moon's cases because Sun knows that they care! How much easier it would be if they didn't... How much easier it would be to let go... But they care! They care.. and yet.. they seem so oblivious to Sun's struggles and suffering. Which only fuels su*c*dal thoughts and feeling of unbearable pain..!

I really wish that Sun won't kill himself.. or even try to... But the signs are there.. and they're painfully obvious... And yet not many people seem to notice that.. or maybe they don't care... ; ;

People only seem to care about other characters. "Where is Lunar?" "Oh no, Moon will sacrifice himself again!" "Eclipse is su*c*dal..." "I want Bloodmoon back!" And also the fact some of the fans left or were saying that show is badly written when show started focusing more on Sun's issues.. doesn't help to shaken off the feeling that people don't like Sun that much...

I know that people can like whoever they want.. but the lack of understanding of Sun's issues is unnerving... I still see that people only focus on Sun's "anger issues" even if it's the least concerning issue of all! It's tiring.. it's just tiring...

Part 1

Sun looks upon the burning daycare from the balcony.

The now less colorful spheres from the ballpit below fly into the air as the jester animatronic jumps down from the balcony.

The sprinkler system is triggered.

Sun makes their way to the exit.

The exit to the daycare is opened.

Sun is unexpectedly hooked by the wire that allows them to fly around the daycare.

Realization.

In an attempt to resist the hook bounding them to the daycare, Sun pulls away and their torso is shattered.

At least they respected rule no 1.

Audio clip is from the Cuphead trailer!

Sun did it! He finally took a break! It may have just been one day, but he took the next step and that's legitimately fantastic. As my therapist taught me, "something is better than nothing".

A longer break IS needed, but we saw how Sun was struggling with just a single day -- not just Bloody, but Sun himself doesn't know what to do during a break.

For right now taking a break is stressful for him, but if he keeps at it he'll let himself relax over time. He's probably gonna have days where he doesn't make progress, but he's also gonna have great days.

Also, even if he doesn't realize it, I am SO RELIEVED Moon said the same things Bloodmoon said! Now Sun won't just constantly disregard what he's being told just because Bloodmoon's saying it because New Moon, whom he does listen to, is saying the exact same thing.

AND the lying thing is back, oh boy... I'm REALLY hoping that, when Moon finds out the truth, it'll be the opposite of what happened last time -- you know, a contrast to show character development. New Moon listens to Sun and fully believes that, if Sun has lied about anything, there's gotta be some sort of reason behind it because... well, why would Sun just lie out of nowhere?

ALSO I HAVE AN IDEA FOR SOMETHING THEY CAN ENJOY TOGETHER!

BLOOPERS. OF ANY KIND. FROM ANYTHING.

THESE INCARNATIONS OF SUN AND MOON HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH HELL FOR SO LONG AND THEY BOTH NEED A LAUGH AND THERE'S A BLOOPER OUT THERE FOR EVERYONE. JUST TRY TO TELL ME I'M WRONG! XD

Also Monty Python. That could work, too. :3

Anybody have other ideas? I'm curious!