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My Frustration 2: Electric Boogaloo
My Frustration 2: Electric Boogaloo

This is something of a sequel to my previous post because looking back on it, the way I described 'pop-culture/literally intellectuals' and how they go around spouting "raised stakes and consequences" and especially relating to my distaste of Pyrrha and Arkos being tragic, and Black Sun seemingly thrown out the window or even if it didn't they would be put on the chopping block next sounded to broad and generalized
I want to make it perfectly clear, I'm not saying every person who uses those terms are snobs and are being completely arbitrary
I am aware Monty always intended Pyrrha and Arkos to be tragic, and I get why the story idealistically works(such as Celtic Phoenix is trying to do with Fixing RWBY) and I get why it works for a majority and why its objectively good and what not
But I'm gonna be honest, and pardon me using a Harry Potter gif because I know the whole ordeal about JK but the gif is a mood...

I love the world and characters and certain concepts of RWBY, but I honestly I just really don't like the story that was told with them or directions they went, which once again isn't to say its objectively bad
I’m not saying the direction RWBY went with V3 or Pyrrha and the rest of the cast being tragic in some way or another is objectively bad, it was just not my taste
And I am not saying every normal RWBY fan/RWDE person who liked it is an elitist about it nor are all of them trying to insult me and attack me personally or say my ideas are bad but rather help you guys understand my experience with the toxic strain of the fanbase.
and I am not trying to change canon or its “trajectory” , nor am I doing this to spite Monty, especially when I never knew the guy. This is a difference in handling ideas and concepts.
I’m doing my RWBY AU, which will most likely be revamped into an original story since it takes a whole different directions with the characters and world, but it's mostly because with post V3 and now in retrospect I saw what this world, characters, ships and other ideas could have been all in a story I believe is worth telling. And I was very disappointed and frustrated that it wasn’t along with my own personal exhaustion how epic storytelling has been going in several franchises.
and my original story which might be a magitek space opera, is kinda cross between RWBY, Fairy Tale, Star Wars, Flash Gordon, and The Chronicles of Narnia
The problem with that in the past is I have met individuals who were just snobs using the fact 'raised stakes' and 'consequences' in epics are necessary to just flat out negated any alternative ideas for concepts without even going into detail and from where I am standing it's becoming more legalistic and arbitrary to the point nothing is allowed to go right, at least not on the small scale as well as the large scale
Like for example, my original story recycles concepts of RWBY such as Jaune and Pyrrha, Blake and Sun, Weiss and Netpune, and Ruby and Oscar as new characters but they get well earned happy endings and they reign as kings and queens on their respective planets and the last couple reigning over them all as emperor and empress
in the past on other websites a lot of ideologues just kept harping on 'raise stakes' and 'consequences' like cheerleaders at a prep rally as if those things inherently forbid such things
for example
"Arkos ended tragically worked, ergo all couples and characters in epic stories like Jaune and Pyrrha(the dork knight and the warrior woman isolated by society) especially if they are directly inspired by them must also end that way to raise steaks and consequences, and they only way they can have a happy ending is in a sitcom/romcom. Doesn't matter what the epic story is about, what happens, their roles, or why, or why it makes audiences happy, if they don't end up dead in an epic, it means nothing."
and to borrow a point from another previous post, when it came to my AU and original story, the fandom would set me and others like me up into a conundrum;
RWBY Fandom: “*sneer* the changes you made in this AU, its not RWBY anymore! Change it up and make it an original story!”
Me: Fine. *tweaks the designs, change the names, and aesthetics…*
Fandom: “Ah! This story is thinly-veiled fan fiction and its characters, world, and ships are clearly influenced by RWBY’s world, characters, and ships you wanted among other things along with you being butthurt which is pathetic and sad cope!
You should disengage the source material, use something else which you 100% agree with, grow up, and ya know, you need to learn to be more original!"
Me: "Philip Pullman did it with the Chronicles of Narnia in "His Dark Materials Trilogy" and you also got Omniman and Homelander from Invincible and The Boys who are Evil Superman..."
Fandom: "Well they can do that with stuff you like, but you can't do that with stuff we like."

and to borrow my point from my other post as before, when I tried to explain my personal distaste how it feels like tragic romance is bleeding into other stuff like DC Comics when Dan Didio trashed Bruce and Selena's wedding and ruining Clark and Lois's marriage and the 'hero's shouldn't have happy personal lives' gibberish, one rwby individual condoned it because
"single batman and superman sells well"
right after he said what I wanted was inherently 'pandering' which in my eyes is hypocritical since to do what 'sells well' can be pandering along with the idea I can't stuff my niche interests into stuff they like, but when its the reverse, its totally acceptable
They would go on how "they're just fictional characters, its not that deep" and then we would actively disagree with these things creatively, it all of a sudden was a matter of life and death
the pattern was pretty clear

and combined with my experience a lot of people in the RWBY fanbase began flipping off people who walked out on RWBY V3, insulting them and what they preferred, and telling those people basically "shut up and go watch a sitcom" just gives me this feelings there's a bias, and The RWBY fandom is the tip of the iceberg...
If you like the right things, think the right things, subjectively feel the right things, and subvert the wrong this for the right things, your justified in forcing your opinions onto others, can get away doing and saying whatever you want on the internet anywhere and to anyone without suppression, and simultaneously suppress and censor others within your own communities
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This is true, but I also want to speak from experience that it's also that needs to feel like what someone wants to do.
For example, I'm trying some more tragic stories, but its certainly not RWBY, I'm trying Code Geass and I really need to get back to Kanebei The Iron Fortress
But the thing felt like it was because I wanted to grow thicker skin and something lesser known, not because a snob pressured me to watch it to "learn some culture"
People are working 9 to 5 jobs already so their already frustrated, and when you snark at what they love and hold up what you like and tell them to like it, it becomes another chore for them, and they got plenty of that from work.
It's hard to develop new tastes, but when you get passive aggressive and assume the worst what their tastes are without any evidence of immorality in said taste, and prop what you like up, they don't wanna do it. It comes off as moralizing, and it drives them further away.
You guys realize you can change your tastes, right?
They don't have to be a part of Who You Are. If you didn't like onions when you were 8 but you like them now that you're in your 20s, we call that "growth." "Development." But if you liked anime when you were 13 and someone tells you to broaden your tastes, try different mediums, or deepen your love for classic films instead, they're "bullying you" and "people should just be allowed to like what they like!"
Yeah. Sure. They're allowed to have one or three tastes in media all their life. They're allowed to keep watching what they're used to and enjoying what they've always enjoyed. Heck, people are allowed to eat cheese whiz all day, every day, if they want to. Nobody's making a law against it.
But you don't have to stay there. You can cultivate a taste for deeper books, truer stories, better music. Just like you learned how to enjoy writing and reading and all that jazz. You can re-train your affections the same way you can re-train your tastebuds.
Do you have to? No. But is it better for you to control your affections instead of letting them control you? Yes. Every time. Every. Time. Including in what you watch during your "down-time." After all, anything worth having is hard work and way better for you. I'm not saying "quit watching anime, put down the Twilight Saga." I'm saying, "try to grow." It's better for you.
I just loved the fact King Miraz got played by his own men, by said men passive aggressively challenging the size of his dick
And in the movie Edmund does the exact same thing



They would be besties.
It’s not morning anymore, but good morning

Oh no I agree with that, his arm and leg are prosthetics, but I was referring to the likes of his chest and spine, my theory was a bad Grimm attack or something that tore off his limbs and damaged his vital organs such as respiratory and circulatory systems
So here are some thoughts I've had regarding Ironwood pre Volume 5.
First of all, I personally disagree when people defending him call him disabled; losing literally half of your body and needing robotic replacements is more akin to life support, in my own opinion.
Secondly - and this ties back to the above comment - I think it's probably safe to assume that Ironwood can't have children. Again, my guy is missing HALF of his body, in an almost complete vertical angle. That's gotta have consequences, not to mention probably leaves him occasionally envious of male characters who are fathers.
And third, I actually like the scene in Vol. 4 where Weiss walks in on Jacques and Ironwood's argument. Now while I do like your plans for Jacques, I also think people overlook Ironwood's offer to let Weiss enroll at Atlas Academy. I know people will probably paint it as him being arrogant or the like, but listening to his offer, it's clearly Ironwood giving Weiss an escape route from her father if she chooses to accept.
Sorry, I've just been thinking about Ironwood a lot, and I felt like sharing my musings with you.
My theory is he lost his arm and leg while half of his toros is encased in some kind of life support shell due to damaged tissue, its the only way it makes it plausible he survived with half of his body replaced with machine.
Now how much *ahem* 'down there' is damaged is up to determination, but it would explain his fraternal instinct towards his students and his envy. Personally Im not gonna do that to him in this AU, but like many in my AUs, he's had high hopes about his future, notably promising Glynda he would marry her back in their school days at Atlas Academy, but now he feels like that's in the way of "the greater good" as his higher ups love to lecture him and others about.
But yeah, I really like James and it boils my blood what they had done to him with no end.