Kisara Deserved A Magical Outfit And Justice!!!

Kisara deserved a magical outfit and justice!!!

Could agree more OP!

I like Astrid.

I like Hiccup.

But please not together.

That girl was so mean in the first movie to him then they have a magical dragon ride together and boom she is love.

Erm what?

A big step was missed.

Also she is clearly Hiccup Trophy Wife he doesn't do a lot and gets the girl.

Astrid should have stayed a shield maiden and Hiccup finding a partner who understands and can relate to him.

lmao hiccstrid aint abusive. Yall just dont like Astrid and try to make up excuses to invalidate them.

Hiccup clearly loves her and she loves him. He's a smart person and if he was in an abusive relationship or in one that he's not happy, he could easily get out of it.

Your crackships are just that, CRACKships🥴

First of all I love Astrid as a character. I've grown up with these characters my whole teenage to adult life and I can spot the differences. She's literally the person we should look up to. But they fucking did her dirty by pairing her with Hiccup. I love Hiccup too. They just. Don't fit right if that makes sense.

The reason why this ship doesn't sit right comes entirely from the first movie. Several times she uses physical aggression towards him. Example, twisting his arms , shoving his head into rock and over all causing him extreme pain. But because she kisses him and becomes interested in him its okay? I don't think so. If it were the other way everyone would be all over it. Saying its not okay a boy did it.

Fast forward to the shows in between. Similar things happen where Hiccup is very vocal about Astrid hitting him and asks her 26 times throughout the series for her to stop. She doesn't. Not to mention she threw several hissy fits during times of great peril for Hiccup not paying attention to you guessed it her. Also going on so I will make a separate posts about his animation that shows he's not okay and that the animators behind the series didn't seem okay to it either. 😌

In the TV series we find out Astrid and her family are disgraced in the eyes of Berk even worse than Hiccup being the tribe outcast. She has the great potential but they threw it under the bus in my honest opinion.

The other reason why I don't like the ship is because ASTRID IS THE REASON STOICK DIED! Let that one sink in. If she hadn't flown her mouth off as she did in Drago's scene we find out later in the same scene Hiccup and family were going to go to Berk. Safety in numbers. But because of what Astrid said it caused Drago to strike premature and caused the death of Hiccup's father.

Lastly the animation of Hiccups discomfort around Astrid continues in the third movie. I really don't like the third movie cause they tossed out a lot of the character development for the book ending but that's another story for another time but I'm going to say a lot of people who are in abusive relationships find themselves unable to get out of it safely. But in Hiccup's case he wouldn't be able to do so he's the chief. In viking times if something were to happen as him leaving a relationship like that he and his children would be at risk by other tribe members who already don't see him fit to be chief.

In conclusion that whole ship is just a power grab to help redeem and already disgraced family. While the kids are cute he's got better chemistry with other characters. Not to mention there's animated proof behind it too. So.

OP you are so damn right the only relantenship that matters is Hiccup and Toothless.

All the movies and series would have worked fine without Hiccstrid, but without Hiccup and Toothless bond?

Never!

That's why the third movie doesn't exist for me because in no world would this two leave each other!

I find it sad that the only thing the majority of the how to train your dragon fandom gives a damn about is hiccup and astrids romance

I prefer Astrid as shield maiden, but your plot for Hidden World is way better then what we got!

I hate Hiccstrid

That’s right, I said it. Who wants a piece of me?! I just found it annoying. I like both Hiccup and Astrid as characters, but them as a couple?

Yeah, no thanks. Hiccstrid is just annoying, and I think it would’ve been better if Astrid ended up with Eret instead and Hiccup had to find new love in some way in the Hidden World. Maybe he meets another girl who happens to be friends with the Light Fury and fell for her and he and Toothless start questioning wether or not they are ready for romance right now. That could’ve be cool to see. Plus, maybe have the dragons stay and have the message be that you can still be friends even in the most dire situations. Plus, a lot of people have been saying that you are not a true HTTYD fan if you don’t ship Hiccstrid. You know what I say to that?

Just replace country with fandom and that’s what I have to say, since you aren’t a true HTTYD fan if you can’t acknowledge Toothless and just think of him as a motorbike or something since he is very important.

I always saw Astrid as the Trophy Wife for Hiccup, like he just takes her on a flight and she is all over him?????????

A step was missing, a really big one.

Straight People™: I don’t ship -insert same sex couple here-. It just felt like pandering to me :/

Me: well, I don’t ship -insert het couple here- because not only did it feel pandering, it also felt rushed and boring. Plus a lot of the writing takes away the woman’s characterization and just turned her into a trophy girlfriend to the male protagonist. :/

Straight People™: oHhHh sO you think love stories are bad, huh??? You think a woman falling for a man makes her weak huh??? Well lOOK at this one time that she punched a dude in the face! So that means her characterization is still there!! Watch the show more closely next time. GOD!

Your FF really made me think and this too and I agree with you, you know that ^^

Just now I think I have to rewrite a lot in my own FFs. because like a dumb sheep I followed the mass with Valka.

I still think she is a cool character but we really needed a real Haddock family confrontation.

Cool Character, but not the best mom!

Simply as that.

I don't like Valka

I just don't. I've tried to like her as a character and as someone but I just can't.

All I see is a mother who abandoned her child because of her own insecurities.

She left Hiccup, despite her saying she loves him very much and would do anything for him but she wasn't even there. At all.

She just let her husband - who loved her with all of his heart to the point he refused to remarry even though its historically accurate for him to marry again for Hiccup and for the tribe itself & cried for years after her death - because she simply didn't want to show him that dragons aren't the monsters everyone thought them to be.

AND she left her son, who is a baby, and who obviously needs milk and a mother to show him love and care because of her own insecurities. She didn't feel like she was good enough of a protector for Hiccup so she just left???

She didn't have to protect him. Didn't have to kill a dragon to prove that she is able to protect him. She had to stay there.

She owes her son, the one she brought into the world who would also keep on thinking about her each time he sees someone with their mother or hear someone talking about or to their mother about her, to stay and raise him with love and care.

She owed Hiccup to stay.

And I hate how they made him forgive her so easily and readily for the sake of the story. And how Stoick also accepted her so easily.

I also hate how people say she's the "coolest mum ever" or "best viking mother" or "better parent than Stoick"

No. She's a terrible mother. I don't know why so many people say she's the mother of the year.