Octavian And Michael Kahale

Octavian and Michael Kahale

I wrote out this post during school on a different device and now I am going to try and relay it as best as I can without like forgetting or whatever,

Let it be known that I was working on this instead of reading TSOA because I got to the Scyros part and I didn’t want to read Deidama(?) and I had to read the cave scene earlier that day after finishing a text.

But anyway, Octavian and Michael. They had a weird and in my honest opinion bad dynamic the two had (not to note the lackluster or contradictory characterization of them) and along with a conversation (can I call it a conversation? Maybe idk) @zazzander (who is amazing go check them out they’re super cool) a while ago when I first talked about Michael Kahale- and I’d want to say my re-imagining of their relationship (that would be canon to my re-imagining of Camp Jupiter in generally; which includes the map I’ve been working on :D)

But anyway Octavian and Michael- the idea that Zaz brought up was to make the two cousins! And I really like that idea because it makes a lot more things make a lot more sense.

Somewhere (or the community agreed? Idk where we believed it but I agree) we have agreed/the books have mentioned (idk) that Octavian is descended from the whole Julius Caesar, Augustus, etc lineage. And I find that an interesting concept. But this makes the family being legacies of Venus (as Julius Caesar claimed himself a descendant of Aeneas, a son of Venus) and this is when I that Michael is from the Venus descendent, he is a millennia old Legacy. (This explains why he doesn’t usually show any powers from what I know of. Even though the Aphrodite/Venus cabin/kids get the shortest end of the stick and I don’t like what Riordan really did with the Aphrodite cabin, or their power sets and like everything-) but it at least makes more sense why he doesn’t show very strong powers (as long as we forget that Frank exists for a second and we go with how I think legacies work. I’ll probably write on that)

But Octavian is from a branch off of that, where sometime much more recently there was a child of Apollo that can be tracked back (I’d say still fairly recent in the scale of generations-) so Octavian can have his much more potent prophecy thing or whatever.

This also makes sense of Michael just showing up at camp rather than Octavian’s father just like spawning into existence at Hawaii, pointing at Michael and going, “Alright kid, your joining the military” (totally not how it went down but like- you get the idea)

They were little buddies over. silly little cousin duo, Michael’s legacy parent chose to go to Hawaii (or maybe the families been out there, though I’d think they’d stay in New Rome) and occasionally Michael would visit over for the holidays (not the other way around because I stand firm by the ‘Octavian has never left Camp Jupiter or New Rome’. His quest to become Centurion probably puts a dent in that but idk- for now that quest in my head is being Terminus’s assistant. Julia *who is totally Octavian’s little sister, anyone who says otherwise is completely entitled to their opinion but I think it’s cute* is just the next in a long line to take up that ‘quest’ it’s really just and excuse by the family to try and get their kids more letters of recommendation, ANYWAYS-)

This still makes them little confidants AND it gives us a good reason to have a Michael Kahale. In this re-imagining, he can have a personality and a narrative function- I’d see it as a character that is genuinely worried for Octavian and doesn’t really know what to do because it’s the legion or it’s Octavian and we get to let Michael have this strong emotional moment at some point (whether that’s at his death *which I personally don’t know if I’m killing off Octavian in the re-imagining, I probably won’t for my biases- but if I do I’m giving him a more reasonable death than the stupid random death they gave him in BoO* or during a moment of weakness or whatever)

And it gives Octavian another person to bounce off of. It gives him someone to interact with so we see a friendlier version of Octavian. So we can see this hesitation and distrust of strangers (which is valid because I too am closed off and awkward and a little rude at times with people I don’t know in real life- please it’s literally just because I don’t know you.) but with Michael we’d get to see a more comfortable Octavian, see him positively interact with someone.

Okay I’m on my way to the airport and just wanted to get this out before I had to get on my flight but that’s all I could think of right now, so uh- let’s hope I get to Cali safely :]

I just got home no braincells left. After the wild time I’m not risking it.

“But if you forget to reblog Madame Zeroni, you and your family will be cursed for always and eternity.”

Listen, Michael Yew, Michael Varus, and Michael Kahale in a Heathers au.

Another update on the map; I have a wild headache right now and my stomach feels a little funky but on a good note I have the map layout down for mostly everything; I at least know what camp relatively looks like, the uh actual amount of stuff there so that’s good :] I’m going to go make sure I am not dying, or about to puke. The map 1st draft halfway done and it’ll probably be out soon!

Have a good night everyone :]

*update I ate 1/25 of a wheat thin and am now shaking

Security/Injuries in Camp Jupiter

Alternate title, ‘Why Camp is literally so unsafe and why we need the Valitudinarium/Camp medical office because everyone will be dead without it’

Okay I just said a lot of words (as usual) but I want to talk about the security in Camp Jupiter. Because guys- why aren’t we shown that these people are INFESTED with monsters.

We are told that the temple hill frequently gets Basilisk burrow problems, and we know that Terminus’s whole safe bubble only applies to New Rome because ‘Conquer or Die’ more interesting analysis of Camps inner workings and interesting stuff that it is too early in the morning to talk about!!

(I’m writing this at 7:17 and I am not in any condition to think about the horrors that these legionnaires must see on a daily basis.)

But yeah, we know that the Temple hill (which is a whole other weird can of worms to have a temple hill? I’d have to look into it more but having them all condensed in that little area feels a little funky- but that’s not the point of this post I’m getting sidetracked) gets infested. Just want to keep reminding people that this is sort of founded off of canon concepts,

But we know that one demigod out in the mortal realm attracts monsters like a fly zapper, and we know the more condensed they are the more monsters they attract (which I’ll also mention brings up some very fun questions about Camp Half-Blood before they had the Thalia shield.) and considering that ‘Big 3’ kids also are said to attract more monsters (wild that we don’t see Percy like regularly deal with monsters. Like- they say they do, but I feel like in the book they don’t really seem to attract much monsters at all once they’re released. Thats for another post tho-)

But from everything said in canon, Camp Jupiter is like a giant neon blinky sign saying ‘all you can eat buffet’ to every monster in a 50 mile radius (I made up that 50 mile number it’s just for the thing, not a real measure) and if we add the fact that Greek demigods aren’t allowed to live in the Bay Area (partially because of Camp Jupiter probably-) but also because it has some of the highest monster populations due to like mt.tam or something (i think that’s what they said. Though then i feel like Los Angelos should similarly be crawling with the buggers due to the underworld but idk!)

But yeah, Camp Jupiter is giant monster attraction. That’s what all that was trying to get at, so I’d like to propose some not so silly camp ideas.

Camp Jupiter’s most dangerous (and most needed) roles are probably tied at Messengers, Scouts, and Sentries (I believe they’re sentries, but I could be wrong. The people on guard duty out at the walls) but these are the jobs I can solidly see having the highest injury rate from monsters (we won’t include various officers/people in power getting injured due to conspiracy,mutiny, etc.)

But I’ll start with Sentries/guards. They are needed, for the obvious reasons. While they are also the most likely to spot some monsters getting a little too close to camp, have to deal with anything trying to slip in, and being the first line of defense or whatever if there’s minor threats that don’t need a whole cohort to take care of (like obviously the guards aren’t gonna be left to deal with like a chimera or anything on their own- but smaller things, like idk I’m sleepy guys) but they also get to be the people popped into the Camp medical thing (I want to say Valitudinarium but it’s a long word and not a lot of people see it and immediately know I’m talking about the camp hospital) because “hey guys, Tim got burned pretty badly after we spotted a couple Cockatrices nesting on a crag in the wall :[“

Then since I seem to be going in reverse are scouts. They don’t need their scouts as much in purely canon Camp Jupiter. But in purely canon Camp Jupiter then in periods where they need the scouts (I’d assume war situations or whatever) they’re going out on their own or in very small groups (guys let’s note that i don’t know how a scout would operate and frankly for this post I’d prefer just to get this idea down here and then think about it later) but they’re left to essentially do the Annabeth thing. And knowing from that group they got swarmed by monsters. So I’d say safe to say that scouts get pretty regularly picked off or at least injured during wartimes.

Now IF we talk about my hc for the 5 missing cohorts being out at settlements around the Americas (just because the 5 being missing bothered me so much) then scouts there are more common for whatever various reasons- and that means they still also get regularly picked off and injured, just probably more often because these scouts wouldn’t just be during wartimes

And finally messengers. They’re role is self-explanatory, I’d see them as Messengers/Heralds/whatever we need some people to go do the thing. Okay aside from that (I am back at writing, it is now 3:03 and I’m getting home, please my head hurts and my braincells were used up like powerups bare with me) but messengers also get injured a lot for similar reasons to the scouts (wow big shocker) but I’d assume they’d be just the smallest bit safer if we assume they operate like mailmen between Camp Jupiter and New Rome and therefore have nice roads, the little protect bubble/Legionnaires everywhere. (I’d like to mention the total missed opportunity to introduce some characters who are messengers/Heralds/Scouts at the Greek & Roman meeting because you can’t convince me Octavian would let Reyna be dumb enough to walk straight into a crowd of their current enemies without sending a couple people to scope out the area-) but yeah, messengers- I haven’t given them much though but I probably will when I start talking about physical roles in Camp Jupiter. They probably also get injured a lot but not as often.

Okay now id like to also say that Camp has amazing walls (I mean the Romans *In Rick Riordan canon* are descended from Trojans and they had a pretty rad wall-) but yeah, I imagine the walls are tall and imposing and scary!! You see a lot more legionnaires constantly carrying weapons or having them at their bedsides because, “Oh sometimes we’re unlucky and a hellhound’ll get through” or “One time we had some sirens come in from the aqueducts connected to the bay that got into the bathhouse”

At Random times at night it’s pretty common to see a commotion because something got in, or a legionnaires missing, or someone is getting someone to the medics-

A lot more scars compared to Camp Half-Blood, scarring is easier when your constantly in danger and using Imperial gold weapons on each other,

Which that last statement bleeds into this one. We are told how dangerous Imperial Gold is- and take into consideration that the Legionnaires are never said to practice with anything different (I’d assume they’d use commons methods of like the ball on the tip of the spear or whatever to stop from like murder but still-??) and war games.

Every single legionnaires lives, sleeps, and breaths in the Camp Hospital, it’s a big building. Every time camp can get their claws into another medic rejoice. And these poor medics, if we consider how bad we think it is over at Camp Half-Blood

These kids regularly shoot each other with siege weapons, throw balls with various chemical concoctions (I would like to say yea, that is a canon thing. It’s called death ball in SoN.) Medics barely get any respite and so little reward for their work because everyone is focused on the people who fight (Which- still deserve the recognition, just saying.)

But yeah, I got off track again- I think? Idk, I’d like to say during the Titan war Camp got the highest surge in injury/death. Due to monsters and demigods n stuff, that is my hc at least to explain to my head why Camp Jupiter feels so empty in SoN and the other books it appears in.

I cried in my English class guys, I uh. Processed a lot from chapter 12 of the outsiders. But I’m happy to kinda get this post done, I’ll probably make another down the road that more clearly talks about it but for now I am very happy to have another long post done, and this is a topic that I like thinking about (Mainly I just like thinking about Camp Jupiter and Romans, big shocker I know guys) but I think that’ll be it for the super duper long posts today.

Guys I was scrolling pintrest for Patroclus stuff when I saw a quote from Song of Achilles and it almost made me cry- like I swear to god I’m not emotionally ready to read that-

Literally like if it wasn’t also because of how hard it is for me to get into reading 1st person books and how much I don’t want to sit there in school, burst into tears and then have my teacher walk up to me and be like,

“What’s wrong?”

“Sob T-they were so in love.. AND THEN THEY HAD TO DIE-“

Also reading the possible mischaracterization of characters that I love with all my heart and soul makes me too afraid to read it

(Please guys I beg of you all Thetis isn’t mean she loves her son to death- WAIT NO-)

But yeah. I guess that is an update, now that I have finished the Julius Caesar book. I am going to try reading TSOA.

ALSO I now that I’ve posted the bare bones draft I’ll probably just have the next update post be more of my notes for everything because my family is gonna go out and look at Christmas lights!