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I Still Cannot Get Over The Fact That Nobody, Both In And Out Of Universe, Talks About The Scene During

i still cannot get over the fact that nobody, both in and out of universe, talks about the scene during the green festival right after c!tubbo gives c!dream the disc. to recap, dream goes on an extensive rant calling tubbo an idiot and the worst president l’manberg has ever had. he says ‘i don’t care about you, i’m not your friend’ (remember up until this point dream had been peacefully visiting l’manberg, and tubbo states multiple times before this that he thinks that dream trusts him). he also reinforces the long-running idea that tubbo is a yes-man, and he says, and i quote, “l’manberg is weaker than it’s ever been, and it’s all because of you”. this entire time, techno chimes in saying things like ‘tubbo sucks!’ and ‘tubbo’s a coward!’ 

that entire tirade was just CRUEL. like, just hard to watch, almost. it was just 5 minutes of tubbo being completely berated, and of course he just sat there and took it.

and it’s had marked effects on tubbo! even during the scene itself, after one of the times dream calls him a horrible president and says he’s ‘ruined everything’, tubbo simply replies “yeah. i know”. and then he keeps repeating this rhetoric later- one specific scene i can think of is right after doomsday where tubbo, in conversation with quackity, said that he thinks he was the worst president l’manberg had ever had and that he was even worse than schlatt (a LITERAL DICTATOR). 

we can even bring this into discussions of tubbo being terrified of techno. a lot of people like to bring in that the execution wasn’t really techno’s fault, and even without opening that can of worms, that doesn’t mean that techno has done nothing to tubbo! getting repeatedly called an idiot and a coward and just frankly insulted personally would not make me have a stellar opinion of someone.

i just find it crazy that nobody talks about this scene or its impact on tubbo, because to me it’s one of the saddest tubbo-related scenes there is. i don’t understand how people can defend c!dream and c!techno on this one lol

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