Okay Bitch We Gotta Have A Talk. In This Post I Won't Even Say My View On Said Discourse So You Can See

okay bitch we gotta have a talk. in this post i won't even say my view on said discourse so you can see how serious i am about respecting cultures and knowing when to stop. when it comes to lesbian identities and discourse about "male lesbians" its okay to just leave it at what happened in america with american lesbian history. seriously. AS A WHITE PERSON YOU SHOULD NOT BE POLICING LABELS LIKE WLW/NMLNM AND SAYING ITS ANTI BLACK WHEN ITS NOT. you don't actually care especially when multiple black people have said it is not fucking anti black to use that label! you just want to use a gotcha because the person didn't care about the western lesbian history your using to prove your point so u use anti blackness as a gotcha and thats weird as hell. AS A AMERICAN/NON AFRICAN YOU SHOULD NOT BE SPEAKING ON AFRICAN LESBIANISM AND TWISTING OUR CULTURE TO FIT YOUR ARGUMENT. we did not use man lesbian in the way you want us to. i have been surrounded by older african lesbian elders, african lesbians, and trans men. we have never had history of men being lesbians. some of our cultures dont have words like butch or femme. learn to speak on what you are. american, white etc. dont use anyone else's race or culture no matter how your intentions are. im pissed bc yall are weird

men cannot be lesbians. (no im not talking about GNC lesbians) no real lesbian, elder or young, is saying men can be lesbians. gender non conformity has always been apart of lesbian history, and always will be, but not men.

and here are some arguments yall lesbian "men" love:

- "read Stone Butch Blues" Stone Butch Blues was actually NOT about being a man, you read the book instead of repeating misinformation spread by others who also haven't read the book

- "leslie feinberg was a man" so close! ze wasn't a man at all. "I am female-bodied, I am a butch lesbian, a transgender lesbian-referring to me as "she/her" is appropriate, particularly in a non-trans setting in which referring to me as "he" would appear to resolve the social contradiction between my birth sex and gender expression and render my transgender expression invisible." this in no way is saying leslie identified as a man. to finish off this quote: " I like the gender neutral pronoun "ze/hir" because it makes it impossible to hold on to gender/sex/sexuality assumptions about a person you're about to meet or you've just met. And in an all trans setting, referring to me as "he/him" honors my gender expression in the same way that referring to my sister drag queens as "she/her" does." [forgive me if i used 'ze' incorrectly]

- "trans men feel safe in this space, away from xyz" and what about the lesbians who use the lesbian community as a safe space away from men? why do they have to compromise their safe space for the sake of a man?

- "trans men feel an attachment" and that's totally fine! it's okay to feel an attachment to a community you've been apart of for a long time. but there is a difference between attachment and identification. wanting to aide the lesbian community is totally fine, welcomed even! but this does not equate to identification.

- "gender is complex" as someone with a complex gender identity, i agree! but again, i am talking about men 'being' lesbians. not about gnc/gender complex lesbians.

- "it's not your business what a trans person identifies as" when it gets to said person invading my community, they make it my business. the same way it would be if a cis person claimed to be t4t

- https://africasacountry.com/2014/03/africa-has-always-been-more-queer-than-generally-acknowledged "see! it exists outside of america!"

africasacountry.com

Africa is more queerer than you think

Both in and outside of Africa, there is an argumentative frenzy around the instability of gender and sex and non-conforming performances of

wrong again! "Whereas the term ‘male lesbians’ is an attempt at translating the Hausa (e.g. Northern Nigerian) for ‘passive’ male partners or ‘yan kifi, who have sex with each other, ‘lesbian men’ in Namibia designate women who play the dominant ‘butch’ role in a same-sex relationship. Even though the terms ‘butch’ and ‘femme’ are not known in (Namibian) Damara culture, the various sexual practices and dress codes find some resonance in the admittedly Western butch-femme dyad." as you can see, the term 'lesbian man' is a place holder for the term 'butch' seeing as that term does not exist in those cultures, aka, lesbian 'men' are not a thing and this debate is solely american

I am in no way belittling trans people or the things the trans community has done for the LGBTQ+ community. This post is strictly saying men cannot be lesbians, again, men not gnc lesbians.

MAN I HATE NIGGAS WITH DREADS

darkskin goddesses in shows.. oh how i love you

ik mel is not canonically a goddess.. but look at her. she is as beautiful as one

hey 19 year old, i know the attention feels good, but i promise the "dom" in their 30s in your dms does not have good intentions and you should probably block them