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I Am Bad At Titles

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Scott & Stiles: *staring Silently At A Teenage Boy Tied Up In Scott's Bathtub*

Scott & Stiles: *staring silently at a teenage boy tied up in Scott's bathtub*

Stiles: welp guess you have a child now

Scott: yeah... *slowly holds Stiles' hand*

Stiles: what are you doing?

Scott: I guess... we have a child now

Stiles: don't you dare try to Found Familyā„¢ me right now

Scott: too late.

Stiles: fuck you.

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6 months ago

Derek Hale is a Villain in Season 2

ā€œYouā€™re right.Ā  It is about power.ā€Ā  Itā€™s as simple as that.

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I get a lot of push back when I argue that most of the things that happen to Derek Hale in the early seasons of Teen Wolf are consequences of his own actions, and I strongly resist fandomā€™s very popular ideal that the production chose to randomly inflict pain on Derek for unnecessary drama.Ā  Ā Derek was created by the writers to underscore certain points in Scottā€™s journey ā€“ namely that emotional and physical trauma are not proper bases for making decisions and that power used for selfish ends leads to failure and corruption.Ā Ā 

Because for some reason it is necessary, Iā€™m going to restate that one of my favorite things about Teen Wolf is Derekā€™s redemption arc, but one of the reasons I love it so much is because Derek hit absolute rock bottom before climbing up.Ā 

When I make this argument, an accusation made against me is that when I say that a lot of what happened to Derek in Seasons 1 and 2 were the consequences of his own actions, Iā€™m really saying that what Kate did to him and his family was his fault.Ā  Ā I would never say that; what I am saying is that what happened six years before the start of the show is not as relevant as people make it out to be.Ā  My opponents claim that they donā€™t use Kateā€™s sexual abuse of Derek and her murder of his family as a way to excuse his actions, but, on the other hand, they certainly believe that it renders any consequences he faces for his later decisions unfair.Ā Ā 

Iā€™m not talking about some cosmic force of balance either.Ā  Ā Iā€™m talking about actions Derek took that had direct and logical consequences. Iā€™ll go over them.

Jackson:Ā  At the end of Season 1, Derek gave Jackson the Bite.Ā  This is after Derek successfully diagnosed Jackson as an unstable narcissist, with sentences likeĀ ā€œYou know, I bet you havenā€™t had a day in your whole life - where you havenā€™t been afraid of somethingā€ and his amazing take down (with a bit of self-projection) in the Hale House as he was talking himself up into murdering Jackson.Ā Ā 

Derek created the kanima.Ā  Scott may have excused him, but the truth is that Derek Bit Jackson without giving a single thought to what might happen.Ā  Take Jacksonā€™s first full moon.Ā  Where was Derek?Ā  When he needed something from Scott, he certainly could surveille his uncleā€™s beta effectively.Ā  Instead, he left Jackson unsupervised because he didnā€™t really care.Ā  But the worst part is when Derek showed up at the high school the next day.Ā  He confronts Jackson, who is a little shit (as fanon likes to describe white boys being mean to other people), about being pack but then witnesses black blood pour from Jacksonā€™s ears and nose.Ā  What does the alpha do?Ā  He leaves him to die.Ā  Either Derek understood that Jackson was dying and chose to abandon him, or Derek didnā€™t understand what was happening and chose to abandon him.Ā  What do you think would have happened if Derek had been a responsible adult alpha and took care of his beta?Ā  I guarantee you Season 2 would have been a lot different.Ā  What the kanima did, including what he did to Derek, is Derekā€™s fault, just as much as the Monsterā€™s rampages are Victorā€™s fault in the novelĀ Frankenstein.Ā  Ā Ā 

Lydia:Ā  Peter savaged Lydia in Formality (1x11).Ā  At that time, Derek was captured, but still on Team Peter.Ā  And afterward?Ā  Ā Derek acted as if she didnā€™t exist; he didnā€™t even check up on her.Ā  She didnā€™t turn into a werewolf, so what was the point in his paying attention to her?Ā  Ā Pressuring Scott to join would make Derek more powerful, just as Jackson and other betas would.Ā  He did nothing for five episodes to look after the girl his uncle transformed, until he decided to murder her based on a supposition and an old wiveā€™s tale that turned out to be wrong.Ā Ā 

What if Derek, who passes himself off as a supernatural expert (ā€You think your little buddy Stiles can just google werewolves, and now you got all the answers, is that it? You donā€™t get it yet, Scott, but Iā€™m looking out for you.ā€ 1x02) had come to her and tried to figure out what was wrong with her?Ā  What if he had earned her trust and she had told him ā€“ because he had been honest and helpful with her ā€“ that she was seeing his uncle everywhere?Ā  Do you think he would have still been caught flat footed by Peterā€™s resurrection plan?Ā Ā Instead, the first thing he does concerning Lydia is order her death!

Scott:Ā  This one is easy.Ā  Derekā€™s defenders act like the subterfuge Scott played on Derek in Season 2 came out of the blue.Ā  It had nothing to do with the number of times that Derek had concealed information from him (the existence of the alpha who bit him, the fact that he bit Jackson), had outright lied to him (the so-called cure), had betrayed him (Derek with Peter in the locker room shower), had demonstrated incompetence (ā€This is your fault!Ā  I know, now get in the car and help me!ā€), had inflicted pain as an expression of dominance (beating Scott and stepping on his neck because Scott tried to talk Boyd out of the Bite, when it had already happened), and had attempted murder (in his house!).Ā  There were ways for Season 2 Derek to earn Scottā€™s loyalty after Season 1, but Derek took it as a given becauseĀ ā€œIā€™m the alpha now.ā€

Stiles and Allison:Ā  Stiles was scared of Derek.Ā  He does not have the compassion of Scott, and he saw Derek as a threat to the people he loves, especially after he saved Derekā€™s ass in Abomination and then Derek turned around and saidĀ ā€œIā€™m gonna murder your crush because this bullshit test I made up.ā€Ā  Stiles recognized aĀ ā€˜pattern of violenceā€™ in Derekā€™s behavior, and as late as 17 episodes into the show, tried to get Allison to murder him with a crossbow bolt to the head.Ā  Ā And Allison?Ā  Everyone hates Allison for falling under Gerardā€™s spell, but it would take significant denial not to realize that Allison had every reason to believe that Derek could have bit her mother on purpose, after Allison had spent all the previous episodes trying to clean up the mess he created.Ā  She turned against her own family to save Derekā€™s first beta, and his response was to send that beta, Isaac, and Erica to beat her up and murder her best friend.

The Hale Betas:Ā  The prevailing attitude in the fandom is that he was trying to create a found family, but that just doesnā€™t fit with Derekā€™s actions.Ā  Ā In Omega, a panicked Scott asks him what are the Argents doing? His answer.Ā Ā ā€œDeclaring war.ā€Ā  Then they listened as Gerard declared the Code null and void and that he was going to kill them all.Ā  And what did Derek do?Ā  He found three desperate kids and turned them into child soldiers.Ā  Ā He bit Isaac and then, when his own monster killed Isaacā€™s father, sent him to school instead of establishing an alibi or getting a lawyer.Ā  When that disaster was resolved ā€“ with Stiles and Allisonā€™s help ā€“ he decided, if at first you donā€™t succeed, try, try again.Ā  After all, he could always make more werewolves.Ā  So he seduced a 16-year-old girl and promised another boy friends, then he gave them war and meeting in a filthy abandoned building.Ā  Is that what family is?

He didnā€™t create a found family.Ā  In the time between the Isaacā€™s first full and Boyd and Ericaā€™s first full moon, he said he didnā€™t have time to teach them to find their anchors, something Scott and Stiles, as amateurs, figured out between Scottā€™s first and second full moon, but he absolutely did have time to run them through combat drills and send them to kidnap and murder other teenagers.Ā  Ā If he wanted aĀ ā€˜found familyā€™ why did he send Erica and Isaac to murder Lydia instead of going to do it himself?Ā  Was Stiles right?Ā ā€œItā€™s got to be a pack thing.Ā  Like an initiation. You do the kill together.ā€Ā  Because just like Peter, he wanted to make sure they had no where else to go.Ā  Ā ā€œYouā€™re not a pack without an alpha,ā€ he declared, when his betas told him they were scared and hopeless.Ā  Ā ā€œYouā€™re not leaving, youā€™re running,ā€ he complained, yet he still had zero plan to stop Gerard.Ā  Is it still found family if they all die together?Ā  Boyd, Erica, and Isaac didnā€™t leave him because the writers were meanie-heads.Ā  They left him because he was an incompetent, power-mad alpha, with the only club in his bag being murder.Ā 

Derekā€™s abuse at the hands of Kate wasnā€™t his fault; the fire wasnā€™t his fault.Ā  Gerard and Kateā€™s prejudiced hatred wasnā€™t his fault.Ā  His desire to rebuild his life and self-esteem on the backs of teenagers he manipulated and used and visited violence upon was.Ā  And thatā€™s why heā€™s a villain.


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7 months ago
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Teen Wolf (TV) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Scott McCall & Stiles Stilinski, Lydia Martin/Stiles Stilinski, Lydia Martin & Stiles Stilinski, Lydia Martin & Scott McCall, Stiles Stilinski & Malia Tate, Lydia Martin & Scott McCall & Stiles Stilinski, Scott McCall/Malia Tate, in the background on that last one Characters: Stiles Stilinski, Scott McCall (Teen Wolf), Lydia Martin, Malia Tate Additional Tags: Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Post-Season/Series 06, Post-Teen Wolf (TV) Season 6B, Post-Nogitsune Stiles Stilinski, Body Horror, Body Dysphoria, talks of nonconsentual body modification, Stiles Stilinski Needs a Hug, Scott McCall Needs a Hug (Teen Wolf), Lydia martin needs a hug, how is that last one not a tag, canon typical body horror discussions, Dissociation, i need to discuss stiles's body not being his body, Hurt/Comfort, Emotional Hurt, Stiles Stilinski-centric, mostly on that last one, i also discuss scott mccall with the weight of the world on his sholders always, Good Friend Scott McCall (Teen Wolf) Summary:

Stiles Stilinski just wanted to write his college philosophy paper; he didn't want to be forced to confront the fact that his body wasn't his own.


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9 months ago

look i'm watching the motel california death by road flare scene for um. video making reasons but it's so so so funny how in scott's speech he's like "you know stiles. before i was bitten by an insane forty year old man in the woods and turned into a creature of the night (awooo) we weren't POPULAR we weren't good at LACROSSE we were NOBODY" because like. arguably stiles still isn't popular. and he definitely isn't good at lacrosse. they're so codependent scott's like no babe. WE got turned into a werewolf. they're insane he's insane. he's just as insane as stiles except people don't notice it because he smiles with his eyes more. would really love to iron them both flat and keep them smushed in a heavy book forever.


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