When Does Lamb Think Will And Hannibal Had Their First Kiss?

when does lamb think will and hannibal had their first kiss?

ugh I'm so torn between ortolan date night or post-fall but a few things make me think it was season 2:

who the fuck plans to run away together and wishes all greeks would die so you can conquer troy alone/together without fucking hard?l beforehand ? answer: no one

ortolans

the honeytrap plot was too sexy

hannibal telling will to go smell himself if he wants to get the old scent back, and his face like how dare you bring this up? like what happened my dudes? something happened.

will just hanging, just chillin' in hannibal's office as hannibal draws fanart. like they were literally fucking then hung out after. in the fireplace, dim lit room, silence and eye fucks (have u seen that gif from this scene?? will jusy walks up to hannibal's desk eye fucking him profoundly, my man probably felt his soul leaving his body at that moment. insane.

the date night's cheeky smiles. those were fuck me smiles.

who the fuck begins to blur?? lovers that's who

who the fuck declares to be conjoint? lovers.

who carries someone for what was that crazy distance in Dolce? idk but lovers. lovers carry you unreal distances. by foot.

who seasons you? lovers.

I lost track anyway I think they kissed in S2.

Will should have been cursing every 5 minutes considering what he went through in the show. Like Gordon Ramsey level with the occasional southern accent slipping though

personally it's more thematically interesting to me if will's father was a caring father—or at least as attentive as he could be being a single father raising a son on his own and trying to put food on the table—ESPECIALLY regarding will's whole (deluded) projection onto garret jacob hobbs and his fundamental misunderstanding of abigail.

garret jacob hobbs despite his obsessiveness with abigail tried to redirect the urge outwards, and a good father in an extremely twisted way. it would be more interesting if will failed to rise to the occasion of being someone abigail could trust because he ultimately REFUSED to understand and see her—and see himself clearly as well, by extension.

he tries to connect with abigail after she's healed physically from the attack to walk, victim to victim. he wanted to believe abigail is innocent, because he wanted at first an uncomplicated story—he needed to feel justified in putting ten bullets into her father, and that would only work if he was a irredeemable monster and she was an uncontested victim. he wanted justification for the power he felt in that moment. (he wouldn't get it.)

and when he deduces abigail was the lure and killed nicholas boyle [who hannibal helped her bury], the revelation scares him, and he hoped it wasn't true even when he knew he was right. because he cannot fathom himself relating to abigail when she has blood on her hands, he cannot fathom still wanting to protect her. the lines get exceedingly blurred as the first season moves on because of will's more frequent hallucinations and abigail's mounting distrust of him. in a way abigail is how will sees himself, a victim -> someone despite their "good intentions" are capable of violence -> something Other and utterly uncategorizable. saving abigail was in a way self-preservation, and her ear that he vomited up in 1x13 savoureux is hinted autocannibalism, in refusing to contend with who you are, you are destroying yourself from the inside

I want a final girl that’s 0% angelic or pristine

Like just a loud, messy, abrasive, chain smoking foul mouthed stress monster. She works the night shift. She’s a triple taurus, she’s a nervous wreck. Her apartment is the size of a shoebox but she drives an immaculately kept bmw. She has an ugly haircut. She can play the drums. She has a stack of unpaid parking tickets and unopened mail on her kitchen counter. She gets into screaming matches with her landlord. She doesn’t speak to her parents. She has a tie dye tapestry in her room that she doesn’t even like, she’s a loyal spectator of the real housewives of new jersey. She has an antique figurine collection and shops at rue 21. Her lore is 10x deeper, darker, and more intriguing than that of the antagonist

And the killer is just like 😍🥰🥺🥵 completely taken aback. Completely beside himself

That’s what i want

I think that Hannibal regularly forgets that Will is human, and that is the cause of the majority of conflict between them. To Hannibal, Will is an enigma. Will is the only person to have ever walked the Earth that is his one true equal. When he sees Will, he sees divine anger and judgment and the ability to see and understand. Truly, he sees Will as a being meant to be worshipped. He sees Will as divineness in physical form.

And so he has all of these completely unobtainable expectations. When Will does not react perfectly, Hannibal is unable to see the situation clearly. When you question why God would let something happen, you never hear people say that it was an accident. You always hear that God has a deeper reason, even if you don't understand it yet. And so when Will does something that does not have a deep philosophical reason, Hannibal is unable to wrap his brain around it. Because God always has a deeper reasoning. So Hannibal ends up scrambling around, trying to piece together a puzzle doesn't exist, because there's no way his God, divinity in physical form, could possibly have made a mistake because he was scared or impulsive.

Hannibal tells Will that his compassion is inconvenient and Will respond by grouping himself in with the rest of humanity. And then this causes a huge barrier between them. Because Will does something rash that does not have a complex meaning behind it, and then Hannibal cannot understand that, so he assigns it it's own meaning and inevitably hurts himself. And then Hannibal is lashing out due to this perceived slight and Will has no idea what's going on because it never even happened. And then it's just a vicious cycle.

Will Graham is Hannibal Lecters God, and God doesn't make mistakes, so when Will makes a mistake, it must not actually be a mistake and instead must be an intentional, deliberate, planned act