Do You Think Trans Women Who Pass As Cis (thinking Of Someone Like Patti Harrison) Experience Misogyny?

Do you think trans women who pass as cis (thinking of someone like Patti Harrison) experience misogyny? I look at her and I’m like, she must experience the same things I do societally as a woman. I didn’t know she was trans until I read it somewhere. What are your thoughts?

Hm. I think that they experience a surface level misogyny - like a cat call (or other male harassment/objectification). But a lot of the misogyny we face as female people is systemic.

It's all healthcare/medicine that's available to us being only tested on males, prioritized for male bodies, and constructed so our role as birther > our humanity. And no matter how well a trans woman passes, healthcare is still made for their male body. And I still am being given medicine that was only tested on male rats and male humans because "females have complicated hormonal cycles that are difficult to control for". I am still being treated by a physician who was taught the male symptoms for all ailments, the female ones not considered.

Its being raised in a society that celebrates and rewards male excellence, and discourages and doesn't teach examples of women in math and science and medicine. It's being raised to be clean, be helpers, risky play discouraged. No matter how well a trans woman passes, they were encouraged to adventure, be explorers, pursue math and science. Their questions were celebrated, not quieted.

It's my upbringing being fundamentally affected by every male who ever interacted with me and how their thoughts and opinions of my femaleness influenced their treatment of me.

Its a society that demands female sacrifice, beauty, smoothness, chastity, thinness, litheness, grace, feminity, starvation, sensuality, motherhood, and conformity. Its being a woman punished for not adhering. And a trans woman, passing however well, selecting optionally to opt in to whatever degree of that they like, or worse yet, agree with.

Its being in a world in which over 95% of lawmakers and politicians are male. Which means absolutely all laws, rules, governing structures, and systems within that world are given male bias. Benefit male people. Its being a female in that system. And however well a trans woman passes, they still are male bodied and benefit from the entire structure and ongoing state of the nation and world that benefits male people.

Its having every top religion of the world written by men to include a male Father-God.

Its being regarded as "the second sex".

Its having all sports that exemplify male biological advantages being highly paid and in the spotlight, and all sports that exemplify female biological advantages taking second fiddle.

Its having female bodily autonomy constantly up for grabs, and male bodily autonomy never on the chopping block. Female reproductive freedom always restricted, male reproductive freedom never questioned.

Its having femicide, rape, abuse as a constant threat. It's seeing that treatment of females constantly glorified for entertainment value in all medias.

Its seeing female bodies broken and abused in pornography, with worse treatment every year. Its seeing male bodies doing the treatment.

And it goes on and on and on.

Its systemic. Its all-encompassing. And it is biology specific.

The faces of child marriage

Tehani, 8, Yemen. “Whenever I saw him, I hid. I hated to see him,” Tehani (in pink) recalls of the early days of her marriage to Majed, when she was 6 and he was 25. The young wife posed for a portrait with former classmate Ghada, also a child bride, outside their home in Hajjah.

Destaye, 11, and Addisu, 23, Ethiopia. Addisu and his new bride Destaye are married in a traditional Ethiopian Orthodox wedding in the rural areas outside the city of Gondar, Ethiopia. Community members said that because of his standing as a priest, Addisu’s bride had to be a virgin. This was the reason Destaye was given to him at such a young age.

Rajani, 5, India. Long after midnight, Rajani is roused from sleep and carried by her uncle to her wedding. Child marriage is illegal in India, so ceremonies are often held in the wee hours of the morning. It becomes a secret the whole village keeps, explained one farmer.

Bishal, 15, and Surita, 16, Nepal. Bishal accepts gifts from visitors as his new bride, Surita, sits bored at her new home. Here in Nepal, as in many countries, not only girls, but boys too are married young.

Faiz, 40, and Ghulam, 11, Afghanistan. Ghulam and Faiz sit for a portrait in her home before their wedding in Afghanistan. According to the U.S. Department of State report “Human Rights Practices for 2011,” approximately 60 percent of girls were married younger than the legal age of 16. Once the girl’s father has agreed to the engagement, she is pulled out of school immediately.

Sarita, 15, India. Sarita is seen in tears before she is sent to her new home with her new groom. The previous day, she and her 8-year-old sister Maya were married to sibling brothers.

Leyualem is transported by mule to her new home on her wedding day. The men later said the cloth was placed over her head so she would not be able to find her way back home, should she want to escape the marriage.

Asia, 14, Yemen. Asia washes her newborn at home in Hajjah while her 2-year-old daughter plays. Asia is still bleeding and ill from childbirth, yet has no knowledge of how to care for herself or access to maternal health care.

Mejgon, 16, Afghanistan. Mejgon weeps in the arms of her case worker near fellow residents at an NGO shelter run by Afghan women in Herat, Afghanistan. Mejgon’s father sold her at the age of 11 to a 60-year-old man for two boxes of heroin.

Jamila, 15, Afghanistan. Kandahar policewoman Malalai Kakar arrests a man who repeatedly stabbed his wife, 15 and mother of two children, for disobeying him. When asked what would happen to the husband for this crime, “Nothing,” Kakar said. “Men are kings here.” Kakar was later killed by the Taliban.

Malala Yousafzai for British Vogue (2021)

“I know the power a young girl carries in her heart” l a Pakistani activist for girls' education and the youngest Nobel Prize laureate, Malala began campaigning for girls’ rights in Pakistan at the age of 11. Almost 13 years later, a woman's right to education is still at the forefront of her cause, expanding beyond her home country to nations all over the world.

The 23 year-old Oxford graduate has become a beacon of hope, committed to ensuring girls across the world get the education they deserve. And now she stands at a crossroad in her own life. / all © British Vogue

“If one girl with an education can change the world, just imagine what 130 million can do.” (British Vogue 2018)

That would be an interesting concept, especially since a lot of college age kids engage in sexual activity with each other. Maybe if they made some kind of law that said college age kids can only consent to sex with people X years older than them with a new "legal adult" age of like... 22ish. I don't know exactly what the details would be. It's kind of weird that here in America we have a mentality like:

You want easy access to alcohol? Let's wait until your brain is more fully matured at the age of 21 in the hope that you will make smarter health decisions.

And as of 2019, you want easy access to cigarettes, tobacco products, and vaping products? Let's wait until your brain is more fully matured at the age of 21 in the hope that you will make smarter health decisions.

You want to sleep with any adult regardless of the age gap or potential for physical and emotional manipulation from seasoned predators as well as the risk for physical health side effects like STDs and pregnancy? Well, you're 18, I'm sure you know what you're doing.

i remember feeling so sad when i turned 18 because i felt like i wasn't protected from men anymore. like, if a crusty older guy hit on me as a teenager, i knew he was a disgusting creep preying on teenage girls and i knew i could tell someone about that. being hit on by the same guy as an 18+ would just be..legal and even normal. i felt like i became free real estate when i became legally an adult. i really wish they'd increase the age of consent.

Me: has a test on Wednesday to study for, an essay to write, 2 discussion posts due, a community health project, and a group project on cancer that I need to start

Also me: well this seems like an optimal time to re-watch a few seasons of teen wolf.