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At This Point? I'm All For The Heroes Knowing His Identity As Chat Noir Before People Know Hawkmoth's

At this point? I'm all for the heroes knowing his identity as Chat Noir before people know Hawkmoth's identity. Because frankly, this secret identity thing puts a very heavy strain on Adrien's mental and emotional faculties.

The only secret identities that matter are Ladybug and Chat Noir's. It's part of their bond. It's between them.

Chat Noir doesn't mind not knowing who are the Temporary Holders. But he sure as hell mind when he learns LB accepts for some other Holders to share their identity between themselves. To him, it seems unfair Alya and Nino could have that while LB and him cannot. Doesn't she trust him as well?

The rule was initially set for LB and CN to better protect their Miraculous. That was back when Fu was still around and it was mostly Ladybug and Chat Noir doing the work.

Now, things have changed.

Now, Ladybug is the Guardian. She has full access to the Miraculous and can get anyone on the spot. Plus, now she heavely relies on Alya/Rena Rouge for support and as a spy without Chat Noir knowing. Sidelining him.

Seriously, the secret identity is just one small part in the whole miscommunication problem their partnership is facing, but revealing themselves won't resolve the initial problem caused by their respective ghost.

When you think about it, at this point in the show, if Marinette discovers Chat Noir and Adrien are the same person, it will probably just feed her trauma about Chat Blanc. She might panic and accidently push Adrien further away in the process.

In case of Adrien, if he doesn't solve his fear of abadonment and if he doesn't understand Marinette's reaction, he will think Marinette hates him and is rejecting him, thus hurting him even more.

Anyway, it is however true the Ladynoir's conflict this season is causing their viewpoint about the secret identity to clash.

Ladybug prefers to respect the secret identity rule. Sure, it is not perfect and complicates some things sometimes for them, but that rule works and she will maintain it. It's safer that way.

On the other hand, Chat Noir is witnessing more and more injustice on his end this season because of that rule. He believed in its necessity at first, but now that he knows it can be bended and broken by others, he is starting the question the point behind it. Is is really for the best that LB and him doesn't know each other identities? Is it still relevant?

But what those two need isn't a reveal. The problem is that they keep avoiding one very important conversation they should have had a long time ago. Ladybug haven't spoke of her experience of that one alternate timeline nor of Rena Rouge's new role inside the team. Chat Noir is not talking about the fact he feels sidelined. They don't bring it up because their respective traumas is haunting them.

That is the root of problem : their trauma, not the secret identity.

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3 years ago

At this point? I'm all for the heroes knowing his identity as Chat Noir before people know Hawkmoth's identity. Because frankly, this secret identity thing puts a very heavy strain on Adrien's mental and emotional faculties.

The only secret identities that matter are Ladybug and Chat Noir's. It's part of their bond. It's between them.

Chat Noir doesn't mind not knowing who are the Temporary Holders. But he sure as hell mind when he learns LB accepts for some other Holders to share their identity between themselves. To him, it seems unfair Alya and Nino could have that while LB and him cannot. Doesn't she trust him as well?

The rule was initially set for LB and CN to better protect their Miraculous. That was back when Fu was still around and it was mostly Ladybug and Chat Noir doing the work.

Now, things have changed.

Now, Ladybug is the Guardian. She has full access to the Miraculous and can get anyone on the spot. Plus, now she heavely relies on Alya/Rena Rouge for support and as a spy without Chat Noir knowing. Sidelining him.

Seriously, the secret identity is just one small part in the whole miscommunication problem their partnership is facing, but revealing themselves won't resolve the initial problem caused by their respective ghost.

When you think about it, at this point in the show, if Marinette discovers Chat Noir and Adrien are the same person, it will probably just feed her trauma about Chat Blanc. She might panic and accidently push Adrien further away in the process.

In case of Adrien, if he doesn't solve his fear of abadonment and if he doesn't understand Marinette's reaction, he will think Marinette hates him and is rejecting him, thus hurting him even more.

Anyway, it is however true the Ladynoir's conflict this season is causing their viewpoint about the secret identity to clash.

Ladybug prefers to respect the secret identity rule. Sure, it is not perfect and complicates some things sometimes for them, but that rule works and she will maintain it. It's safer that way.

On the other hand, Chat Noir is witnessing more and more injustice on his end this season because of that rule. He believed in its necessity at first, but now that he knows it can be bended and broken by others, he is starting the question the point behind it. Is is really for the best that LB and him doesn't know each other identities? Is it still relevant?

But what those two need isn't a reveal. The problem is that they keep avoiding one very important conversation they should have had a long time ago. Ladybug haven't spoke of her experience of that one alternate timeline nor of Rena Rouge's new role inside the team. Chat Noir is not talking about the fact he feels sidelined. They don't bring it up because their respective traumas is haunting them.

That is the root of problem : their trauma, not the secret identity.

3 years ago
DO NOT DO THIS.

DO NOT DO THIS.

This makes me so angry.

If you work in a movie theater and you do this I have no respect for you.

My younger brother is Type 1 Diabetic.

When we go to a movie theater, we always get him diet soda. If he were to get regular when we asked for diet, we would not give him the insulin he would need for it. If that happens, his blood sugar level could go so high he could go into a coma, go blind, or even die.

If somebody gave him regular soda instead of diet without telling us, that person could be responsible for a nine-year-old being killed or blinded.

Just thinking about that makes me so angry. I get scared every time we take him to a movie in case the people working there saw this picture and decide to do the same thing.

Please signal boost this so people know.

3 years ago

sorry theres not a single person on this website id pay to follow idc if we’ve been mutuals for six years, if you put up a paywall we’re done

3 years ago

I know people are sad that marinette support system is declining with her barely talk to her parents anymore and it is really saddening, but adrien support system is now nonexistence with nino just throw the secret out of window and it hit me harder because his support system is never been as huge as marinette and he just lost the last person he could potentially tell his secret at.

It really is sad for the both of them yeah..

The thing is, Marinette has all the resources of a good support system: she has good parents, has lots of good friends, has Alya, heck even has Chat Noir. But she choses to not use them or to distance herself from them (except for Alya - for now) because she doesn't think it's safe and is scared of so many things.

Adrien however does not have the resources Marinette has for a good support system. His home life don't offer him this chance (even more so when his family is literally the villains of the show), he has friends but less than Marinette and cannot see them as often at all, he doesn't have anyone knowing his identity and well, we can't really say he has Ladybug these days as she is distancing herself from him just like he's also distancing himself from her the more he doubts.

The difference as well is that Adrien never planned on telling his secret to someone (well, neither did Marinette but she had reached a point where it was impossible for her mentally to do so, except by being the guardian she's giving herself this option, while Chat Noir has been told repeatedly how secrets identities are important and he'd see that as himself betraying Ladybug's trust to do it, so it doesn't even consider it an option).

But yeah if he was to ever consider revealing himself to Nino, it's been kind of discarded for now because... Nino told him that 1. him and Alya had no secrets 2. he told Adrien their heroes identities which might not make him want to entrust Nino with his 3. he basically called Chat Noir annoying to his face... and that makes me very sad because it's a lot of a misunderstanding but it'll have big consequences

So anyway, I'm rambling (as I do lol) but it's hard to compare the two as they're in two very different situations, none of which are very enviable at the moment... and they're both getting more and more isolated