They Really Had No Shame In Doing Chat Noir Dirty During That One-on-one Fight With Alya No Fucking Shame

they really had no shame in doing chat noir dirty during that one-on-one fight with alya… no fucking shame…

The thing with the upcoming Ladynoir conflict is that it goes far beyond Chat Noir's feelings and place in the team. Likes yes, he's questioning his worth more and more as Chat Noir and if he really is that irreplaceable, that's for sure.

But the biggest problems it's currently creating is how dangerous the secrets between them are getting regarding their fight with Shadowmoth, and how it can be compared to Gabriel and Nathalie's team.

Because yes, it's mainly Gabriel, but he and Nathalie basically have no secrets (that we know of) between each other. They know each identities, Gabriel shares his worries and plans with Nathalie, she gives suggestions too and even come herself with plans that are pretty good (I'm thinking about Optigami and now Hack San). And even if at the end of the day, Gabriel always looses, he only needs one victory to win the war...and he's getting closer and closer to taking advantage of our heroes as time goes on.

Now regarding Ladybug and Chat Noir, it's not much their identities being a secret that is dangerous - while it would give them lots of strength, they're currently not ready and things are delicate that with Hawkmoth being Chat Noir's father. However, all the other secrets between them and their lack of communication... There's no way the Ladynoir conflict won't be noticed by Gabriel and taken advantage of, or risk having repercussions.

Lots of people are complaining about Marinette relying more on Alya than Chat Noir, and yes again it's gonna hurt Chat Noir but it's also not a mistake Marinette is making at all. No, the problem is that Chat Noir, as a permanent hero and bearer of one of the miraculous wanted by the villain, is not aware of major information that can compromise their advantage on Shadowmoth.

Hopefully before leaving to London, Marinette explained to him that she was gonna leave and that she's gonna entrust her miraculous to someone else will she's away. But if she hasn't, the fact that she didn't tell him someone knows her identity can be really dangerous because how can he trusts a new Ladybug coming out of nowhere? This is putting the battle against Hack San at high risks, moreover because this season sentimonsters taking the shape of people they know have been made to trick them. I'm very curious to see how it's gonna happen there. And tbh it was already borderline risky that he didn't know in Sentibubbler.

But more importantly, hiding Rena Furtive from Chat Noir is extremely dangerous. We already saw in Sentibubbler how him not knowing about Rena being a permanent holder could have been dangerous, even though it was avoided successfully, but here? If he doesn't know some illusions are on the field and if he accidentally reveals on battle an illusion, it could blow up the entire Rena Furtive cover to Hawkmoth. And that's super dangerous for the hero team (and for Alya, and for Marinette's identity and so on).

So yeah I'm rambling at this point but I'd be curious and excited if the show addresses it because to me, that's where Marinette's errors are regarding withholding information from Chat Noir 👀 and if this is gonna be acknowledged -or worse, happen- when the inevitable blow up occurs

At this point why do you think bakugou still wants to be number 1? It serves no real purpose and if the series is saying the rankings are bad, then there’s no reason for anyone to take this seriously sense it’ll either not be be a thing or not actually matter anymore. Is it simply something to motivate him to be stronger despite the title meaning nothing? Or is this going to be the final lesson Bakugou is going to have to learn as a character since that desire to be number 1 is the only thing he still has from where he was at the start

I think No 1 does not necessarily mean the hero rankings, but also it’s not a bad thing to strive for in itself. 

The narrative clearly established that one of the worst things of the All Might era was the passivity it perpetuated among the heroes, who felt like they were not competing in the same field so they stopped trying as hard. And even in the case of Endeavor who was the only exception, the problem was never that he wanted to be No. 1. (that was actually a positive thing), but rather that he gave up very fast and tried to achieve his goal in unethical ways and pushing his related psychological issues onto his family.

In Bakugou’s arc, similarly, his ambition is not a bad thing in itself. The question is the “why” and the “how”. As a middle-schooler, he wants to be No. 1 because he feels entitled to it on account of his exceptional quirk. After DvK, it is about his wounded pride, it’s all about seeking external validation. 

Already at the time of the Sport Festival, his public declaration is a way to push himself, a motivator. What is problematic is his attitude towards the others, seeing them as mere stepping stones, people to look down on. 

We also learn during the Sport Festival together with Bakugou that someone giving their best is a sign of respect, and all the external validation in the world doesn’t mean anything if there is no internal validation to match it. The world can’t tell Bakugou that he’s the best, unless he himself FEELS it. So he does know quite early on that an external No. 1. ranking is not the same as truly being the No. 1. 

Post DvK2, the immediate thing Bakugou does (in response to All Might saying again it’s not his fault) is to recognize Deku as a rival. Kacchan’s going to keep pushing himself, because remember, it’s a sign of respect - but what changes is that he doesn’t view Deku as a stepping stone anymore, but someone to “lift” up in the process. He starts to see and use rivalry as a tool for growth for both of them - take the fear of inferiority and turn into a positive motivator. 

So as Bakugou gets himself into his rivalry thing with Deku and tries to figure out his own weaknesses and Deku’s strengths,  it becomes clear to him that what No 1. means is more than just a strong quirk. There are ways the weak can be strong and there are weaknesses even the strongest quirks can’t spare a person from. 

So yes, saying that he wants to be No 1. is in a way the same as his original character motivation, it has a very different meaning, just as Kacchan is a very different person than he was a year ago. 

- I think he views No 1 as something that can’t be just an external trophy, but something he earns for himself by doing his best

- Still aiming for No. 1. is a sign of respect - Deku may be as strong or stronger than All Might eventually, but Bakugou went up against All Might, experienced the power gap and smiled. It did not make him despair, it made him feel fired up. 

- He understood that strongest is much more than just a question of the strongest quirk. There are many ways to be strong, and by recognizing the strength Izuku had back as a quirkless child gave him new understanding and more ways to grow than just making bigger booms. 

- Regardless of strength of quirk, they are all on the same field, because heroism in the end at its core is recognizing what the right thing to do is and acting on it. It’s not a question of power only. So this evolved Bakugou recognizes everyone as his rivals, because where he once saw everyone as stepping stones, now he sees the potential in everyone and wants to motivate and lift them up through the rivalry. 

So I feel like this scene wasn’t meant to show that Bakugou was stuck in the past, but that even if his goal seems to be the same, it has taken on new layers and meaning in light of his growth. Wanting to be No 1 was never a bad thing  - but the way he changed, now Kacchan wants to do it for the right reasons (to save people) and the right way (keep rising and lifting everyone with him)/ 

(The narrative did a similar thing with Todoroki in the same chapter, who was also tied back to his starting point of not wanting to be like Endeavor, but again, doing it the right way, for the right reasons.)

I completely agree. Me too.

I know its a filler but it better be an excellent "filler" episode.

I have already spoken before a lot on and off Tumblr about what I want from Psychocomedian.

THERE’S DEFINITELY AN ADRIENETTE DEVELOPMENT EPISODE IN BETWEEN ALL THIS-

LIKE THE AMOUNT OF CLOSENESS. THE PLATONIC TEAMWORK. THE LACK OF BLUSHING/AWKWARDNESS BEING REPLACED BY SURPRISE/CASUALNESS EVEN IN A SUPPOSED ROMANTIC SCENE. WE’RE MISSING SOMETHING-

EPS 4, 5 AND 7…

WHICH ONE OF YOU IS IT?

Just finished watching Hack-san (without translations). DAMN it was good.

 Marinette waiting until the last minute to tell Alya about needing her to makes sense - she wasn’t planning on going on the trip, she tried to fake being sick, so it really wasn’t something she could’ve planned in advance. Also explains why she didn’t tell Chat beforehand - she couldn’t.

I loved seeing Alya panicking a little too, trying to keep anyone from getting akumatized even while no one seemed likely to be. Reminds me of Marinette’s anxiety. With having to be the major hero that Paris relies on to fix everything, as well as subbing for the Guardian, she’s under a lot of pressure very suddenly.

Chat attacking her made sense. A new superhero comes out of nowhere, using LADYBUG’S miraculous, of all things? Yeah, he’s gonna assume that she either stole his Lady’s Miraculous, is an akuma, or is a sentimonster. 

I really want to know what their conversation on opposite sides of the chimney was about. Adrien was clearly not happy about the situation and didn’t trust this new superhero, but he at least was wiling to work with her. And by the end he’d warmed up to her a lot.

Oooh, and Alya’s plan near the end to take down Robostus… I don’t know the exact details, but it seemed to rely on manipulation and understanding how people work, using that to her advantage. Combining that with Sentibubbler, and Alya seems to be really good at understanding people and using them in her plans to achieve her goals, while Marinette’s really good at manipulating objects to achieve her goals. 

And OH MY GOD MARINETTE TAKING OUT AN AKUMA WITH A FRYING PAN IS PERFECT. And trapping the butterfly under a bucket afterwards! All the fanfics that have civilians taking out akumas like that and trapping them to dispose of later suddenly got a big canonical boost!

Looks like Alya noticed something was wrong with Chat too and urged Ladybug to talk to him! YES. Makes perfect sense, considering that her big strength is understanding people. Plus, he’s more willing to show negative emotions to her than he is to Ladybug nowadays, so it’s more obvious.

This is gonna live in my head rent free what the FUCK