Why Do You Leave This In The Tags?

Why do you leave this in the tags? 😄

You're right! 😂

Also he is blond again?

Not me thinking Gabriel actually looks good without his glasses like come on

No, but seriously, that doesn't make any sense.

Sentimonsters don't have free will when someone is holding their amok. They can't resist or talk back or disobey the way Adrien has been doing since the literal canonical start of the series.

Hell, the first time Adrien tried to run away to school Gabriel explicitly told him not to do that again. And what did Adrien do? He disobeyed.

The only other sentimonster that even attempted to resist was Feast and it could only do that because it's amok was in it's stomach. Touching the damn thing wouldn't make a sentimonster more obedient when you're already holding their "free will" in the palm of your hand. Gabriel fiddles with the ring because it's a physical representation of his obsession with Emilie.

Why wouldn't Adrien follow Gabriel when called? He's Adrien's father sperm donor and this is probably the most Gabriel has talked to him since Glaciator 2.

And Adrien being a sentimonster is literally contradicted by Chat Blanc not listening to Gabriel when he ordered Adrien to ash Ladybug.

Also, I won't be acknowledging tweets from creators that have trolled the fandom for literal years.

(No, I will not be taking constructive criticism at this time.)

welp, looks like the cat is out of the bag. i guess we're retconning 'gorizilla' and 'chat blanc' now.

Tbh I was a bit disappointed by Marinette just saying "but I don't like Chat Noir" in Ephemeral after like 100 whole eps of buildup lmao. It just felt .... lame? Hollow? idk

However I know it's denial bc its been a running gag from the start that she will stubbornly deny any attraction to Chat Noir only to get jealous when he pays attention to any other girl. It has that classic flavor of "girl who won't admit she's attracted to a guy because of her pride + the fact that he's so full of himself." The fact that she also avoids the question of "if [the other boy you like] weren't around, would things be different between us?" and refuses to give Chat Noir a flat out rejection, instead just bringing up her "other boy" every time basically also confirms this. If you need even more blatant proof of the fact that she does love Chat Noir, in the Miraculous Secrets series where characters get to narrate their thoughts and feelings on things in their life, there's one episode where she's narrating her diary entry about Chat Noir and she says "I think he has a bit of a crush on me .... MAYBE I'd see Chat Noir differently if it wasn't for Adrien. Wait what am I saying!? A world without Adrien!? That would be horrible!!!" And there was also the book series where she literally said in the Prime Queen book that she wouldn't mind kissing Chat Noir if it weren't for Adrien, and she also kept having to remind herself of her feelings for Adrien every time Chat Noir made her smile/laugh a little too much. Sadly the main show itself never lets us hear her internal monologue like these other formats do & I know they don't have time to delve in to those complicated feelings in a 22 minute ep that was as packed as Ephemeral was (why couldn't they just make it a 45 minute/two-part special lmao like did we really need eps like Simpleman instead)

Anyway on top of the denial, as I said in a post before they still haven't given Marinette an opportunity to explore/reflect on how she feels abt Chat Noir. She compartmentalizes her superhero and civilian lives and refuses to think about Chat Noir outside of being Ladybug or entertain any thoughts about his identity or how she feels about him etc. That's why I feel like the Ladynoir conflict might be the key to her figuring out her feelings. Marinette is stubborn as a rock and oblivious when it comes to feelings, so what better way to force her to confront those feelings she's boxed up and shoved out of sight than losing Chat Noir? If something comes between them it's gonna hurt her so bad, and sometimes it takes losing something to understand what it really meant to you. But idk that's all just speculation

Anyway tl;dr: Ladybug already loves Chat Noir. She just needs the right push to get her to figure it out.

being the topic du jour and all

The problem with the Adrien-is-a-sentimonster thing isn’t the no-man-of-woman-born whatever, since they’ve bent over backwards to insist that a sentihuman is completely 100% physically for all intents and purposes a human being like anyone else. Yeah, someone on this show is a sentimonster or at the very least there’s going to be a plotline about someone thinking that they are one.

The problem is that in the case of Adrien specifically, “posessing his own amok” could never be anything else than a tangible allegory for breaking free of his father’s abuse. And the problem with that is that they’ve already discarded the option through the very framework of how sentimonsters work. ~Controlling the amok~ has long since been tested and proven false. 

In “Feast”, Nathalie blackmails the sentimonster with a threat of removing the amok, and Feast clearly, physically reacts to her powers. In “Ladybug”, Marinette gives Sentibug the amok and Nathalie promptly wipes her out of existence. 

Posessing the amok will never be enough. 

In order for any sentimonster on this show to be truly emancipated, it needs to posess not only the amok, but the peacock miraculous. And with that, the amount of provisions for the allegory has sunk any elegance to it, turning it from an apt narrative device to a matter of plot mechanics. If Adrien has to carry two pieces of jewelry in order to be a free man, then the show has also set up a clear precedent of miraculouses and other magical jewelry falling into the hands of relatives with sticky fingers. 

That’s why I’m still not convinced - because this setup would amount to some MASSIVELY CLUMSY STORYTELLING. If Adrien is a sentimonster, then the only tidy way out of it is if The Wish ends up being used to turn him into a Real Boy or something to equal effect, and then what was the point except just adding another item to the list of Adrien Agreste’s life is despair. 

(again: Those Rings clearly have some kind of magical abilities beyond any possible amoks, because this entire Felix-Gabriel feud can not be over a family heirloom. If that’s truly all they are, then Gabe’s redemption is going to be his using The Wish to set Adrien free once Felix completes the set and I’ll probably sit here pulling my hair) 

I completely agree with you but still want your reasons :)

after sleeping on it I've decided adrien isn't a senti.and no not just bc I don't want him to be. and no i won't give you my reasons.and I will go back to ignoring it. :)