Happy Story Suggestions
Happy Story suggestions
Last week was my grandmothers funeral (we knew for a while she was going to die and didn’t even know who we were anymore). The day after I watched endgame. Yesterday I watched the Gotham finale. Today I had to watch my favourite GoT Character die (also knowing he still would not get an emmy for his amazing role, because he never got one for the last few seasons, where he had a lot more scenes) and I finished reading a book that has an open ending and no second book, because it was supposed to be a stand alone.
Does anybody have a suggestion on what I could read/watch that is happy and joyful and finished, in order to fill this hole that is getting bigger everyday, because I need something happy right now in order to compensate. Preferably with a lot of fanwork for it!
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I’ve seen a lot of comparisons between the Daenerys/Barristan scene with the Daenerys/Jon scene, where she notices that Jon is in a lot of ways like her brother, as in he doesn’t enjoy what he’s good at, aka killing.
But Dany is the one who mentions it, which I’d interpret as she knows she’s good at killing people, mainly with her dragons burning them and she enjoys it.
While Jon doesn’t.
Which would make him a better person in the eyes of Dany and the viewers.
I love how if there is any trace of a scene from a Fox show is on Youtube Fox comes in and makes sure it’s deleted and meanwhile you could watch the whole Game of Thrones sereies from HBO if you clicked through enough videos.
I am so used to using english in my life, I just watched the first 8 minutes of Harry Potter HBP before I noticed I wasn’t watching it in German.
So I got people really upset with this, and from what I gathered they seemed no to see my point but an apperentl dislike for Dany, which I do not have, in fact I like her very much. So here is an alalysis of the SHOW about this scene and my interpretation of it. Which a lot of mentions of the episodes where Dany and Jon do kill.
The first thing is when Barristan Selmy talks about Rheagar S5E4 Barristan Semly: Rheagar never liked killing, he loved to sing. And then there is the scene between Jon and Dany in S7E3 J:You’ve been talking to Tyrion. D:He is my hand. J:He enjoys talking. D:We all enjoy what we’re good at. J:I don’t.
after said scene Dany looks at Jon with a very interesting look, which is hard to interpret. But she at least thinks about what Ser Barristan told her about Rheagar and makes a connection between a good man (as she knows Rheagar was by Ser Barristan) and another good man Jon. But also Dany says very casually that “we all enjoy what we’re good at”, which includes her. And she is good at defeating her enemys and killing them. And she definitly is enjoying some of it, whereas Jon is not.
Looking at Dany’s kills thoughout the seasons:
I am not counting Drogo, obviously, because that is an entirely different thing.
S1E10 Miz Maz Durr The burning of the Witch, very painful death and pure revenge, of course. And Dany liked burning her. That woman killed her husband and her child after Dany did something nice to her (even if Miz saw that differently) and watching that scene makes you want Miz to die, you don’t want her to survive, there is a sense of justice and because of the sense of revenge you want it to be painful and so does Dany. S2E10 House of the Undying She loves killing this guy, she loves the power and who in her position wouldn’t. He trapped her and kidnapped her children, he deserves to die and yes there is no other posibility to kill him but with the dragons, not you can see her smiling as her dragons kill him. And not only because she is proud they finally can breath fire, but because that man is dead.
S2E10 Yaro Xhoan Daxos, Dorea she smiles, before she lockes them up. It is revenge for them betraying her, she didn’t kill them for the sake of their death, but for revenge. And she is very happy with the outcome, her getting enough to buy a ship.
S3E9 unsullied army My favourite Dany scene of all of them. And she loves how she outsmarted him, she is very smug about it and she very happily, smiling saying Dracarys and burns him. And has no problem whatsoever to order the death of all of the men of power.
S6E4 Khals The Khals at first just followed their tradition and didn’t want to follow her orders (because why would they). But afterwards they threatened her, and she enjoyed that fire very much and killing all of them at once. Was their death necessary for her war, yes, did she spear all their men and wifes, yes, but she enjoyed the death of the Khals. Also a very painful death. S6E9 Meereen Burning the ships. Not the best shot of her. She looks weird, and I honestly can’t tell what her face is even supposed to look like, but she was very smug when talking to the masters, because she knew she had already won and they would fall. S7E4 Highgarden: smile before the burning of the soldiers, very confident in what she does, pissed off, because she lost her fleet, burns the food, for the sake of the enemy not getting it, instead of saving it for her own army. S7E5 Tarlys gives Randall Tarly more than once chance, but not Dickon, who is a lot younger and obviously isn’t smart enough to bend the knee here, where Tyrion’s words would have made sense. But on the other hand Dany did say she wouldn’t put them in chains. BUT Tyrion sees that Dany is not on the best path here, because she is using Drogon to make the soldiers fear her, not love her, like she did with the smallfolk and the slaves in Essos, she makes them scared of her, by burning them, so that they would bend the knee. This gives her peace at the moment but no love in the long run. She does not enjoy this, but she is very cold and practical about it. It reminds me of Jon beheading Janos Slint, he gave him more than one chance, but unlike Dany there was no other option for Jon, because of the laws of the NW. I am not saying that Dany is a bad character for liking to kill. A lot of GoT chracters like to kill, Arya, Sandor, Bronn are all likeable and they are very good and like killing. And Dany has very good reason for every single of her kills. I enjoyed watching the deaths of all of the Essos storylines very much, I rooted for Daenerys, but I also see she enjoyed killing her enemys, I enjoy watching her killing her enemys and I do so for other characters aswell. I mean Arya killing Walder Frey was no different from the kind of revenge Dany goes through and I don’t think anyone didn’t cheer in that scene.
And in comparison here are Jon’s kills:
Jon is a lot more, necessary but not enjoyable about death, a lot like Ned Stark was, very dutyful.
I am cutting out
-Quorin Halfhand, because Jon clearly didn’t want to kill an ally, but did as he was told for the necessity of the NW
-the Free Volk he travelled with, because they were his companions. Because there would not be any joy out of those for anyone (maybe the Mountain).
-S5E8 Hardhome He fights a White Walker here, so it’s not exactly a moment of that’s a person. He is fighting about general survival, but even after the survival he isn’t happy about being able to kill a Walker. He is just all over done about how many people are dead and what that means. -the other Walkers and White’s scenes, because they are not alive, it’s killing Zombies, not alive people.
So we have:
S4E9 Styr This Is probably the only kill I’d say Jon had any sense of I really want to kill that guy, until Ramsay came (but there was a long list of reasons for Ramsay), but the other Wildlings Jon did definitely not really want to kill, I think Styr he wanted dead. Maybe not kill him personally, but dead overall, because he fought Jon head on and really tried everything to kill him. But Jon is clearly not happy. For him the whole battle is just hoping for it to be finally done and not lose to many people he cares for. He fights because he has to, not because he wants to. That also show’s later when he bolts Tormund. He just wants this to be over. He is done or fighting and death. -S5E3 Janos Slynt Jon gave him an order and he refused 3 times. Even after Jon gave him a last back out chance and he even insulted Jon in front of the whole NW. There was no chance, not even Ser Alliser said anything, because he knows the rules of the NW, all of them do (besides Janos the idiot). And Jon is very Ned Stark with the deserter, I have to do this, I don’t like it, but I will do my duty. But he doesn’t enjoy it, even if he hated Janos Slynt, he doesn’t like it.
-S6E3 The traitors It is a very official affair. He goes through with it very merciful, considering they killed him, Olly killed Ygritte (which Jon never held against him) and Ser Alliser hated his guts from day 1. But he simply hung them, which is a quick and relatively painless death. And 3 out of the 4 of them don’t even seem to hate him for it, (only Olly looks with hatred, the others go down with acceptance) but they know he is only doing his duty. And he kills them but he is clearly unhappy with it, even after they killed him, betrayed him, he didn’t like it.
-S6E9 Battle of the Bastards Jon cuts though a lot of soldiers and he is pissed, you can see that, he wants his enemies dead and he kills them, but he isn’t enjoying it. He wants Ramsay dead (of course) but he isn’t having fun fighting and killing like a lot of characters do. He just cuts though them left and right, trying to get through to Ramsay. Because he wants Ramsay dead, every viewer waited for Ramsay to die, we knew it was coming and Jon didn’t even kill him (which made sense) but is also very important. This is the first time Jon really wanted to kill someone, even with the traitors, even Janos Slynt, he didn’t want them dead right away, but he wanted Ramsay dead. This isn’t a kill out of duty, it is out of hatred, but Jon doesn’t come out of the fight with a sense of winning, but a sense of losing.
Whereas Dany kills and wins, Jon kills and loses. The deaths around them were very different deaths to begin with. Dany losing Viserys was not a defeat, it was a victory, whereas Jon losing Ned, Robb, Rickon thinking Bran is dead were all just deaths that hurt him more than anything. But he didn’t get more power, he just got pain, while Dany got stronger. Dany lost Drogo and Jon Ygritte. Both of them lost the person they love, but again Dany got her children and her own Khalassar that way and Jon only got one more person he loved dead. Both of them grieve for their lost once of course, but for Jon it’s just losing more and more though death, whereas Dany gets victories out of it.
Which is why Dany enjoys killing and Jon does not.
And I think that in Dany’s eye he seems like a good person, perhaps a better person than she is, because she knows herself, she knows she enjoys it. But he does not.
I am not saying Jon is a better person or Dany is a bad person, they both have their strenghts and weaknesses, but I think in this scene Dany thinks of Jon as a defnitly good, but even better person than she is in this perticular way.
I’ve seen a lot of comparisons between the Daenerys/Barristan scene with the Daenerys/Jon scene, where she notices that Jon is in a lot of ways like her brother, as in he doesn’t enjoy what he’s good at, aka killing.
But Dany is the one who mentions it, which I’d interpret as she knows she’s good at killing people, mainly with her dragons burning them and she enjoys it.
While Jon doesn’t.
Which would make him a better person in the eyes of Dany and the viewers.
And when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.
The whole “hands” thing might give the suggestion that Cersei might die the same way Shae died. Strangled by the Hand‘s chain.
Even though I still hope for it to be Jamie.