Weird Question But Are You Okay With Fandom Antis Interacting As Long As They Stick To Alterhuman Topics?

Weird question but are you okay with fandom antis interacting as long as they stick to alterhuman topics? If not, would you prefer to be warned if someone is one?

Uhhhhhh.

So I want you to take this in the gentlest, kindest possible way. I don’t hate you personally, I don’t know who you are or what you’re like. I have nothing against you as a person.

Fandom antis have a body count. A week ago, a fifteen year old took their life because they were bullied by antis so bad they didn’t know they had any other option of escaping. A queer, disabled, recent rape victim had their career in animation - a very competitive field - and will likely never get it back over a friend deciding that drawn porn of aged-up characters on a side account as locked down as possible was the exact same thing as actual CSEM. The resulting poverty may kill that person.

Those two are not the first victims of antishipping. I’ve seen more actual predators who do prey on actual children in antishipping circles than I have fingers. I’ve had friends assaulted by those who self-identify as antis.

I get wanting to be protected and safe, especially when you’re underage and wary. But NSFW spaces are not for them, and I know far too many incidents where antis snuck in anyway, lying the whole way, and proceeded to take screenshots of what they saw, expose them to the world, and call it pedophilia when it’s not.

Lines on a screen or paper are not real people. They do not have feelings. They do not exist. Comparing them to actual CSEM is a fuck-you in the face of every single survivor of CSA and COCSA, and as that’s what antis believe, I do not trust them. I do not give a single flying fuck what someone ships. Activism is not based in fandom. You don’t protect anyone by insisting that nobody can ship anything but the most pure and vanilla shit.

There was a time where I was live and let live about this particular subject. The first artist who was given homemade cookies at a con that actually had razor blades in them - I was willing to go “Okay, every group has a few crazies, that sucks but isn’t indicative.”

Last week I watched on twitter as a fifteen year old died and a content creator lost their career, and antis were celebrating. Someone fucking died, and they were glad. I can understand not mourning the loss - does anyone mourn murderers on death row, really? - but you don’t have to celebrate the death of a fifteen year old, and there are so many lines such a person would have to cross for that to be even remotely justifiable. I did not see a single anti admitting that maybe they fucked up. I didn’t see a speck of remorse, and trust me, I was looking.

Anyone who looks me in the eye and says they’re an antishipper is someone who looked at what happened last week and is okay allying with the people who killed that poor teenager. They’re okay allying with the people who started a witch hunt and ruined someone’s career, fully aware that doing so would risk killing them via poverty. And anyone who agrees with that is a person I want far, far away from me.

I have seventeen thousand words of explicit incest porn on my AO3, ten thousand of which are very much underage. I’ll write more as I have the executive dysfunction to do so. I do not have to justify that, and I will not, not in defense of myself, I shouldn’t need to have to justify it. If anyone does want to know out of curiosity, I can talk about it, but I refuse to justify writing whatever the hell I want to write.

Thought crimes aren’t crimes. If nobody’s getting hurt, then it’s not so bad. And if someone is, and it’s a crime, put them through the legal system and have them tried by a jury. If we assume guilty until proven innocent, there will be so much innocent blood on our hands it will never come off.

So no. No, I’m not okay with fandom antis following me unless they’re willing to reconsider on that view. If you never thought hard about it and didn’t know any of this, then I can forgive you, we all have to learn and I’d prefer people did so before anyone gets hurt. If you’re doing it because your friends are and you enjoy not losing your friends, then changing their minds or getting friends that won’t turn on you for questioning them is probably a better idea. But if you’ve heard me out and still want to ally with those sorts of people, do so far away from me.

Some of you aren't being progressive as you think you are.

Like to charge, reblog to cast.

For the love of god can we stop allowing endogenic systems into traumagenic spaces??? I don’t care if endogenic WERE real systems. They do not deserve to be in spaces catered to TRAUMA survivors when they’re NOT trauma survivors.

And for the record, I don’t care what kind of endogenic you are. None of you deserve to be in our spaces that we have created for each other. You do not get to claim our experiences without EXPERIENCING them. You are not systems. You have never been systems. You will never be systems. No matter what you THINK you know about systems, you are wrong.

If you think you’re a system the same as an actual system who has been through hell, you’re delusional. Endos have been proven fake time and time and time and time again. It’s almost like endos all think that being proven wrong is a form of oppression they’re gonna get trauma from.

If that were true, you’d all be ACTUAL systems instead of pretending you’re one in your echo chambers. Endos are not valid. They are not systems. They do not deserve to be recognized as systems. Leave traumagenic spaces out of your brainless endogenic echo chambers.

having to pretend you're neutral on alts because antis have such a big misconception on what a proshipper is sucks ass

The argument of “what if a child sees this?” is so funny to me cause, sweetie, there are two reasons why that’s not my problem:

Children ignore warnings and some parents don’t know how to parent- I tag my shit properly so if the child is old enough to read and actually comprehend what they are reading, they should be able to tell that it’s not something they want to see. If they click it anyways, it’s not my fucking problem. I tried. They ignored the warning and if they are just that young, blame the parents for not watching what their kids are getting into. The parents not parenting their kids is the true issue there.

I’m not a daycare attendant and never will be - I’m not a fucking babysitter or a kids content creator. I’m a grown adult that has every right to make NSFW content if I choose to. I’m not going to “keep it kid friendly” when I don’t have to cause everyone else’s kids are not my problem. I don’t have nor will I ever have a child and I’m not nor will I ever be someone else’s “village”.