Weird Question But Are You Okay With Fandom Antis Interacting As Long As They Stick To Alterhuman Topics?

Weird question but are you okay with fandom antis interacting as long as they stick to alterhuman topics? If not, would you prefer to be warned if someone is one?

Uhhhhhh.

So I want you to take this in the gentlest, kindest possible way. I don’t hate you personally, I don’t know who you are or what you’re like. I have nothing against you as a person.

Fandom antis have a body count. A week ago, a fifteen year old took their life because they were bullied by antis so bad they didn’t know they had any other option of escaping. A queer, disabled, recent rape victim had their career in animation - a very competitive field - and will likely never get it back over a friend deciding that drawn porn of aged-up characters on a side account as locked down as possible was the exact same thing as actual CSEM. The resulting poverty may kill that person.

Those two are not the first victims of antishipping. I’ve seen more actual predators who do prey on actual children in antishipping circles than I have fingers. I’ve had friends assaulted by those who self-identify as antis.

I get wanting to be protected and safe, especially when you’re underage and wary. But NSFW spaces are not for them, and I know far too many incidents where antis snuck in anyway, lying the whole way, and proceeded to take screenshots of what they saw, expose them to the world, and call it pedophilia when it’s not.

Lines on a screen or paper are not real people. They do not have feelings. They do not exist. Comparing them to actual CSEM is a fuck-you in the face of every single survivor of CSA and COCSA, and as that’s what antis believe, I do not trust them. I do not give a single flying fuck what someone ships. Activism is not based in fandom. You don’t protect anyone by insisting that nobody can ship anything but the most pure and vanilla shit.

There was a time where I was live and let live about this particular subject. The first artist who was given homemade cookies at a con that actually had razor blades in them - I was willing to go “Okay, every group has a few crazies, that sucks but isn’t indicative.”

Last week I watched on twitter as a fifteen year old died and a content creator lost their career, and antis were celebrating. Someone fucking died, and they were glad. I can understand not mourning the loss - does anyone mourn murderers on death row, really? - but you don’t have to celebrate the death of a fifteen year old, and there are so many lines such a person would have to cross for that to be even remotely justifiable. I did not see a single anti admitting that maybe they fucked up. I didn’t see a speck of remorse, and trust me, I was looking.

Anyone who looks me in the eye and says they’re an antishipper is someone who looked at what happened last week and is okay allying with the people who killed that poor teenager. They’re okay allying with the people who started a witch hunt and ruined someone’s career, fully aware that doing so would risk killing them via poverty. And anyone who agrees with that is a person I want far, far away from me.

I have seventeen thousand words of explicit incest porn on my AO3, ten thousand of which are very much underage. I’ll write more as I have the executive dysfunction to do so. I do not have to justify that, and I will not, not in defense of myself, I shouldn’t need to have to justify it. If anyone does want to know out of curiosity, I can talk about it, but I refuse to justify writing whatever the hell I want to write.

Thought crimes aren’t crimes. If nobody’s getting hurt, then it’s not so bad. And if someone is, and it’s a crime, put them through the legal system and have them tried by a jury. If we assume guilty until proven innocent, there will be so much innocent blood on our hands it will never come off.

So no. No, I’m not okay with fandom antis following me unless they’re willing to reconsider on that view. If you never thought hard about it and didn’t know any of this, then I can forgive you, we all have to learn and I’d prefer people did so before anyone gets hurt. If you’re doing it because your friends are and you enjoy not losing your friends, then changing their minds or getting friends that won’t turn on you for questioning them is probably a better idea. But if you’ve heard me out and still want to ally with those sorts of people, do so far away from me.

i think a lot of younger systems would be better off if they took a minute to stop stressing about roles or consciousness labels or headspaces or origins and just treat members of their system like random guys. that one headmate you can't tell the role of? they like hot chocolate with marshmallows and listening to the rain. you too. you need to be a random guy. being a random guy is good for everyone.

I'd rather hangout with the straight boyfriend than the queer cop who insists they're one of the "good ones" while harassing people of color

I'd rather hangout with the straight palestinian grandma than the queer zionist who keeps insisting that the death of palestinians is the one way ticket to queer liberation

I'd rather hangout with the leather dyke who is a mspec gaybian and uses paw/pawself pronouns than the puritan who makes "callout posts" clearly targeting disabled queer artists

reminder that mspec lesbians and male lesbians and he/him lesbians and trans(masc/neu/fem) lesbians have existed for decades and are fucking amazing lesbians that deserve space in the lesbian community

PSA: you can find things disrespectful, distasteful, dubious, or uncomfortable without claiming them to be immoral. you can have your opinions without harassing people who are objectively harming no one.