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im back from all the chaos of life finally but i havent gotten a chance to watch the most recent ays episodes, so if there is anything i need to add to my list from the episodes, let me know in an ask or a reply!!

If you had to make a setlist for a jimin tour, how would you order it?

i think his currently album order is literally perfect story telling wise, but assuming we want something different, maybe something like this

face off

filter

who

like crazy

alone

lie (because alone ends with lie lie lie :D)

set me free pt 2

rebirth

serendipity

be mine

showtime as vcr transition

sgmb

ctt

letter

promise as encore

how do you think the dynamics of bts will work when they return as a group?

it's certain that hybe will use the "the 7 are important" speech and in reality, they will continue to give the spotlight and privileges only to jk, it wouldn't surprise me if he was the only one who had the freedom to do his solo work while the group is active again.

pd and scooter, they're despicable people but I don't think they'd shoot themselves in the foot by trying to end bts right away, imagine how much backlash that would give and how much money they'd lose, or maybe they're dumb and do that??? 🤔

I hope pd and scooter keep inflating jk gigantic ego and he decides to leave this group soon, because wasn't that the intention of so much investment in his solo career?

the way the armys fandom has become pathetic, it's quite possible that they will continue to manipulate this fandom, making jk out to be some poor bastard who didn't know what he was doing.

everyone knows that no matter what jk does, the armys fandom will applaud and turn a blind eye, just look at what hybe does in relation to bts solo career and what their real intention is lol everyone knows what they're up to and yet armys pretend nothing is happening.

i honestly don't know. i think some things will 100% will have changed considering how they've all grown in their own strengths, but also with all the stuff that's happened due to the company

honestly, i dont think we'll see most of the problems that might arise. hybe won't want fans to see the bad sides of bts, no matter what perspective they're trying to push.

now, mind you, they're all in the military right now. hopefully all the immaturity that jk and th have will be at least improved after this. hopefully they'll be more able to understand how things work outside of the celebrity field (although th's social media posts don't point to that outcome)

jk has always been pushed as the golden member, ever since debut. that's why he was given center even though other members were better suited for it. also why he was given so many lines as well. i don't know when their greed involving jk started, but it seems to be from early in their careers.

the thing i'm most interested in is how the fanbases have changed. everyone's grown their own solo fanbases, and army have lowkey been in shambles lately. i think more internal fanwars will be arising over stupid stuff like line distribution and other stuff. there will be a lot different fandom wise. we've grown as a solo fandom but bts has (supposedly) lost a lot of army from hiatus. that and with jk's push and jimin's popularity in the us, they've gained a bunch of fans that will be tuning in for bts now.

it's frightening and exciting at the same time and i'm looking forward to it

https://www.tumblr.com/yuzuyoon/758903758303412224/besides-jks-advice-was-completely-unasked-for?source=share

I think jk's habit of giving advice would have grown because jm used to ask this guy for advices since jm wasn't given vocal lessons and of course who else would you go for vocal advice if not for the main vocalists. Taehyung asked him same for his album, yg has asked jl to do vocal guide on multiple occasions. So yeah that's why it comes to him. And in MMM also jm said he's talked with JK about music for hrs and jm said he'd go "i learned this what do you think of this?" So yeah i think it's because jm has always asked him for advice so it came to him like that. I know ppl would think it's different when asked for advice nd when not but that's a usual thing btw frnds if your used to doing that. I'm not saying jm always needs his advice on how to sing but jimin does go to him for it. Jm mentioned during dyna interview ig that jungkook has helped him with vocals, then in 2021 when BTS released two magazines one with wkorea nd on with vogue in one of them jimin again mentioned taking vocal lessons from this guy. So i think it comes from the habit he's grown.

Now i haven't watched the clip to know what faces he were making or what are the advices he gave jm.

even if this is the case, it really shows how poorly jk has grown in this field considering jimin did not utter a single word asking for singing advice at all that episode. i'd be understanding if jimin asked him for his opinion, but jk just started talking while jimin was showing him one of the early recordings of who. jk asked to hear who and jimin played it willingly but with a lot of hesitation. it clearly meant a lot to him to be playing it for someone, and im really sure jk jumping in with singing advice was unhelpful.

there's also a clip where jimin actually looks upset at it. obviously we don't know what he was thinking, but based on the scene, he seemed to be composing himself from whatever emotion jk's advice was making him feel. whether anger or frustration or sadness, we don't know

i would literally die to attend a concert of jimin solo tour 😭

i really don't have any hope anymore, and not because of jimin, but because hybe would never allow anything like that to happen.

there has to be one at some point. it's almost guarenteed. if you said that there'd be no solo tours before these solo eras, i would've agreed with you, but with yg going on his own tour, jimin saying he wants to do a solo tour and all these things, i think it's likely to happen at some point. im hoping.

Oh my god this sentiment!!!!

"think deep down they know if JM leaves, they are fucked. I know a lot of people say RM might be the one keeping the group together but I am willing to bet it's JM. If he chooses he had had enough, I don't think BTS will cease to exist. Yeah others leaving will create a dent but I think JM leaving will break the group. I don't think he will be the way. He is too much of a good guy. He knows the legacy the group brings but it would be interesting to see".

I remember having this convo with an Army once and they got so offended that I would feel that way. Honestly when I first got into BTS, it was because Jimin was trending on Twitter. I only checked him out after I consistently saw him trend. After that I realized he was a part of group called BTS and that was it for me. I have watched BTS and their content for a long time now and there are few things I can hundred percent bank on.

BTS have an amazing chemistry as a group. Regardless of what happens behind the camera, they are able to put it all aside and work as a team. There is a great sense of pride of being a team and they genuinely like each other.

Yes they are close but they get jealous of each other. I don't know the level of jealousy but there have been a few throwaway comment from the guys which points to this.

No matter what anyone says, Jimin is the emotional centre of the group. He is the person they go to when they need to hash out things but he is also the person that calls them out when they are being shit. He is the one who will have a chat with the leader of the others are struggling. He is the one who will tell people when things aren't working and they rely heavily on him. I see this as a disadvantage for Jimin because he is constantly in a giver and fixer role and he might not be getting the same back but I think we gotta remember he is a leader behind the scenes. He knows what he wants and he will go for it.

One thing that I wish Jimin did more of us boast about himself. He is extremely talented, extremely athletic, very good at a lot of things and fucking phenomenal dancer but I don't think I have seen Jimin boast about any of this.

All the members have had a role in the beginning and they have stuck to it for years and they will continue to stick to it even when they come back as a group. The chances of them bringing up Jimins success especially the first Korean soloist to top Hot 100 will not be brought up even though they will bring up Sevens success. I genuinely don't know why they do that but this has been a common recurrence.

I personally don't think the boys are distant as people make them out to be. When they come as a group, we will see a similar dynamic.

The above paragraph about JM being the one that can break the group, I whole heatedly believe this shit. Like I truly think that if he was to return tomorrow and say to the group, I am done, they will have to walk away. I have many reasons to believe this. Firstly, it's very obvious to me that he is highly intelligent emotionally as well as intellectually. Because he is so highly emotionally intelligent, he is able to balance the group. He can be anything to anyone of them so he centres them. He shares a very good relationship with all of them and he values his relationship with them all so he goes out of his way to keep it. He isn't jealous at all of the boys so he doesn't let that get in his head. He might have little jealously over their skills but not them as people. He also doesn't need loud declaration that he is amazing or he is the best. He of course likes it because who the fuck wouldn't but that's not the only driving factor.

This is going to be so bold of me and I could be wrong and I will most likely be wrong but it will be a JK vs JM show and it will continue to be that way for a while. I think the boys have known this for a long time. They can see the metrics and judge it accordingly. From what I can see, JK has always been pushed as the centre member. They have always wanted him to be the popular member. I have never understood why but I am assuming they feel that he has more years possibly being the youngest. He is also a great singer and stable so I am not surprised. I still think it's weird that they would focus on one person in a 7 member group but it kind of makes sense. But JM has always been an anomaly. He is incredibly charismatic so that makes him stand out. He is good looking which is JK is too by the way but Jimin captures more eyeballs. But most importantly not only is he a great dancer and singer, he has a natural star quality that the rest of them including JK need to work hard to show. He has sensuality that a lot of people don't possess so it's not a surprise that the competition is between the two young members. My only surprise is the lack of musical success for V but that might change once he changes his tune. This is a space I am keeping an eye on. Honestly I am also interested to see where Hobi lands because he has a lot of potential too. Overall though, it's always been those two from the beginning. And seems to be those two now too. I would be interested to see how they would both fare if they got exactly the same roll out.

Look what I am trying to say is that I am not being mean to the rest of the members to agree with the sentiment above. Maybe that will be change but I don't see that happening. I have always thoughts that JM is a glue to the group, I felt that while watching the AYS EP three as well. He has something and that shows in their content as well as peoples reaction to him. Yes he gets a lot of negative hate but only people like Jimin who stand out get this type of hate because deep down a lot of people are insecure about him. Yes a lot of them act like he has no impact but deep down they know that he has too much impact. We all know it, Army know it, solo fans know and the company knows it too. I am just unsure why the company is being stupid but I hope one day Jimin tells us why!!

you absolutely devoured this. i have nothing to add

I think a lot of pjms missed the part in minimoni music where jimin said that when they get back, they will do what they need to and then focus on their own stuff again. I think he has discovered a love for making music, and he seems to have a lot of fun working with sgmb and other producers. He never talked about the music making process within bts with such joy and excitement as he does his solo work. Once he starts performing again with whatever bts tour they go and gets back in the groove after his service, I do think a jimin tour will be coming soon.

jimin tour....don't get my hopes up. you know im getting front row tickets the moment it's announced

it think now that jimin is more practiced at music making, he'll have even more of a hand in bts songs than before. i think pre hiatus he didn't enjoy it as much as he does now because there were always members that were better than him at it. he didn't get much opportunity to actually try it out and learn so that he could improve. i'm guessing he was stuck trying to figure stuff out because whenever he actually tried, one of the producers or the rap line would take over instead because they're professionals or something. it's hard to improve on anything or even enjoy it when all your opportunities are taken from you. that's why i cherish the bts songs jimin has some type of credit on

in the solo eras though, he was on his own and yeah, he struggled because he wasn't used to making music on his own. i really appreciate sgmb for actually challenging jimin to think creatively about things and try out lyric writing and producing and composing. instead of just doing it all for him, they let him have a hand in it and gently guided him when he was having trouble. but they let him struggle through it so he could improve

Hello. This might be a dumb question so feel free to ignore it but I wanted to ask you if you think the other vocal line will have to adjust to Jimin’s improved (and stronger) singing technique once they come back together?

And if so, in what way?

i don't think they'll have to adjust. if anything the pitch of bts' songs might actually go down a bit considering jimin's low/mid register is a lot stronger now than it was before.

im actually excited to see how that ends up turning out because it will be mean stronger songs, amazing live performances, and more opportunity for stuff like harmonization

https://www.tumblr.com/yuzuyoon/758995342520877056/who-by-jimin-28-days-becomes-the-fastest-song

just thinking about how much money they're going to invest in jk next comeback and how it's not going to bring a positive return for them lol is what comforts me, they're going to keep trying, sabotaging and changing the narrative but at the end of the day we know who the member with the highest demand is.

it's certain that they'll put jk on a solo tour after 2025, i know he has fans and the famous "gp" but demand to fill big venues? especially in the usa? i think it's hard, what are they going to do? pay people to watch these shows? ( for sure)

I'm not going to lie, I'd love to see it happen.

shh i want a jimin tour. don't you dampen my hopes with speculation of a jk tour

no but hybe's management and financial decisions will just never make sense to me. i've given up with trying to figure it out. it's like the most basic thing to support those who are supporting you the best. ofc the kpop industry doesn't care about who's actually popular. these companies and labels are just going to do whatever they need to to push the group or person they think should be the most popular. tons of nugu groups in kpop would be huge if they were given what these big (and frankly unpopular) groups receive.

we just need to remain in peace knowing that company narratives don't change the truth. fandom narratives don't change the truth. the truth lies in the numbers, the demand, the loyal dedicated fanbases. jimin is the most popular member and if bh doesn't want that to be acknowledged? fine. but it really leaves a giant smear on their label considering they're not doing their jobs properly. it's embarrassing at the very least, and i hope their financial situation and support starts to reflect that at some point

To me watching the third episode, it looks lik JM babies both JK and Tae but he seems to especially coddle Tae which honestly doesn't make sense to me since Tae is same age as him. Who even cares about the 2 months difference lol but I do think that JMs maturity is at another level. That was always going to be the case anyways since it's been pretty apparent from the beginning but this episode was noticeable too.

I personally don't think Tae and Jk were rude to Jimin. JM knows how to handle them both and if something wasn't working out for him, he would have told them off. He was just feeling motion sickness and needed a rest to gain his power back which he did halfway through the episode.

People need to stop trying to make Jimin look like a damsel in distress. He literally climbed the fucking wall and if those two were pissing him off, he can literally pick them up lol. I think people sometimes forget how strong JM is mentally and physically. Just because he doesn't feel the need to mention his strength doesn't mean he isn't strong.

I do however think JK was pretty rude to Tae. Like I know people excuse that as him being sassy, he is young and all that colourful word but I found it quiet rude. Generally I don't find him rude because I can only imagine how hard it is for them all but he isn't a baby anymore. I didn't find him rude in the USA part because I don't personally think he was rude to JM. He is obviously an awkward kid and trying to fill that silence without JM is hard. JK doesn't have the natural charisma that JM has. Plus they were both unwell so I could understand a bit there. But I thought the attitude towards Tae was a bit harsh and Tae didn't seem to deserve it.

I also think it's okay to call out certain behaviors without attacking the person. I saw shippers make fun of his rudeness saying how he didn't want Tae there. Even if he didn't want him there, he should be showing it in a better way. That's no reason to make someone feel crap. It also doesn't prove anything others than the fact that he can be an ass sometimes which I don't know why anyone would celebrate that about their favourite. This isn't to say I think JK is an asshole. I think he was being a bit of a dick in the episode. But also maybe he just wasn't having a good day.

I saw some people drag Tae for joining but I didn't see JM have any problem. Infact he seemed happy to have him there and he hung out with him a lot. The level of easiness JM has with Tae is quiet nice and that doesn't seem to change overtime. JM treats him like a fucking baby even more than he treats JK. When V is around, JMs attention also seems to go to V.

I also don't understand what people are saying when it comes to their bodies lol. I just saw two skinny dudes whose body I could have lived without seeing lol. I would say the same about it if Jimin was showing his body as well haha.

jimin's a big brother by blood so it doesn't surprise me that he babies his younger non blood related brothers.

i don't think they were necessarily rude but they certainly do not know how to read the room. if jimin wasn't feeling well and was just laying down to try to rest, getting him soaked was not the move. nausea is no joke. i had some trouble with it a month ago and i was nauseous all week but i wasn't sick. it sucks. the last thing i would've wanted was to be sprayed with water guns while trying to rest.

i also personally think ppl are reading too much into the th joining the show thing. it's not like he was one of jimin or jk's friends from outside the group like kai or mingi. jimin and jk could've said no to him coming if they really didn't want him there. they're all friends and they all clearly enjoy their time together, so i dont get the problem. you can be annoyed he's on the show but 🤷‍♀️

i honestly dont get the big deal with seeing them shirtless. there have only been a few instances when i've gotten excited to see jimin's body, and its very rare. it's kinda weird how stans of boy groups have gotten so comfortable expecting their idols to go shirtless or give them an ab flash. like it's not something that's surprising anymore but anticipated. they are not entitled to showing off their bodies, just like how female idols shouldn't be expected to wear incredibly revealing clothing. why has kpop gotten to a place where we value seeing skin over liking the music we listen to?

i can't guarentee i'll be super active the next two weeks, i'll be going on a trip. that being said, make sure to send me lots of asks to answer when i get home and keep me updated so i don't have to go searching for what the heck happened

i'll try my best to update the ays list too, but that might be difficult. no promises!

“ #Jimin's Year-End Prediction Streams on Spotify :

who - 1.5B

Like Crazy - 1.3B

set me free pt2 - 400M

like Crazy eng ver - 370M

Muse : 2.5B

Face : 2.5B

Total streams on his profile : 6.4B

[ This is based on his daily gains ]”

oh my fucking god, 1.5B of who????? this is insane and so fucking amazing

and and if the versions of like crazy were together we'd be getting closer and closer to a 2B (im sad thinking about this right now)

i really hope we can manage this but tbh i really want lc to get 1.5b before who. idk why but lc will always be that song to me

https://www.tumblr.com/yuzuyoon/758943134752391168/pjms-are-really-outnumbered-on-twitter-now-armys?source=share

I think it's less about being outnumbered and more realizing that a K-pop hate tweet, even one with 10k likes, does nothing to jimin. Hell, it's even gotten him new fans in the past. Famous and well loved artists get hate tweets with like 100k likes all the time, and they don't lose any fans. Jimin won't lose any either. Half of the people posting and liking these tweets don't actually hate him they just want clout, or they think piling on is fun because they don't see idols as real people. Mass quoting a tweet increases its reach, so we should stop doing that anyway. Like, what is a kpoppie gonna do to jm? They can't even chart their favs.

this ^^^

I think a lot of these assumptions come from echo chambers by the way. Jimin, if anything, has gained a solo fandom, a very devoted one at that. A lot of them left Twitter because that place is insufferable some days. But his fandom has grown and they are organised as hell. Armies that didn’t support him during face are the same ones who has never wanted to support him any way, he hasn’t lost anything. You can have a double or triple bias but you will always prefer one over the other and if Jimin’s success hurt you because he outsold your fav, then you weren’t as fond of him any way. ARMY has supported Jimin music because it’s good music not because it’s Jimin’s. They could use it for bragging purposes. It stood out the most. ARMY are currently occupied cleaning out the Yoongi mess they have been consistently at it since two weeks. JM gets hit hate tweets because to most kpop fans he’s the representative of BTS, and he’s the one who introduced the band to them. All kpoppies jump on the wagon, but it’s the same circle jerk. And also once you go out, you will see “ratio” is a thing that exists in the stan world and literally nowhere else. I have two accounts - one for Jimin and one for my western and indie artists and I promise you every relevant artist gets lashings on Twitter. And Jimin is relevant. I also saw a GC being infiltrated by a bunch of kpoppies and all they did was say the most vile things about JK. The chat was outed, not a single account got suspended. The anti SUGA tweets are still there. But does any of it mean anything in real life? The answer is no.

people on twitter love to hate because it gets them attention and it's the only attention they're getting in the kpop world. these companies and idols literally do not care that you think their song is a "flop."

people hate because they can. they hate because they're hiding behind the safety of the internet where nothing can hurt them other than some words (which comes back to bite some of them when they end up getting sued)

jimin's fanbase is honestly one of the better ones i've seen throughout kpop fandom spaces. no matter what these "unproblematic" kpop fandoms say, there no such thing as a perfect fandom. there are always going to be toxic people in them. jimin's fanbase doesn't really have time to be toxic or to focus on the toxic ppl in our fandom because we're too busy organizing ourselves to do better. and honestly, it just proves that being off of twitter is better for fandoms considering jimin's following is huge compared to his twt fandom. we can be more focused on streaming and getting achievements rather than defending him pointlessly against people that are just going to hate because it gets them views and likes

Are there any casual watchers of ASY, do you think? Disney subscribers scrolling through the list and happening upon it...hmm. . What's this? Let's see...

What would they think? Would it create any new fans? Would they watch more than a few minutes before switching to their 10th rewatch of Guardians of the Galaxy or over to Hulu?

Because I am 💯 a Jiminette, and even I am kind of bored by it all. The 'antics' aren't that funny. The conversations... there IS NO conversation. All they do is EAT. Or talk about eating.

It just seems so completely geared towards Army. And if it's geared for Army, why couldn't Jimin's Production Diary be on Disney or YouTube instead of a $20 extra feature on stupid Weverse?

#StillPissedAboutFace

im not sure actually. because while disney plus is a popular streaming service, it has a ton of shows and do you watch every show that pops up on your recently added feed? i sure dont. i didn't even watch some of the bts stuff on there and i'm a fan.

now, there definitely could be. there is a sparse amount of kdramas on there, so potential kdrama watchers could see it and be interested.

it is a very army focused show though. it doesn't take the time to introduce jimin and jk, and it doesn't let us know who the other members of bts are (because be real, this is actually a bts show with this amount of times the other members have been mentioned). even an intro like they do for run bts would've made a bit more sense than the random clips they use for the intro

jimin haters are such miserable people i cant do this. they literally get mad that ppl think jimin's talented. like what??

“Songs on their 4th week on Weekly spotify chart

Who (4 covers) - 58.6M🔥

Seven (8 covers) - 58.2M”

If we keep WHO stable, she can break the fastest song records 1 billion in spotify history 🤯

based on how well lc did the past year and a half i think who will be pretty stable too. let's keep working and streaming !!

I will always side eye pjms who hate taehyung more than jungkook when jungkook has subjected jimin to so much more hate than taehyung ever has. since their debut! there is at least some redeemable qualities in vmins friendship when they are together but what's good about jikook? jimin doting on jungkook while jungkook is cold as ever but will be "touchy" once in a blue moon? 95% of the time those pjms are ex jikookers or still are jikookers but ones in secret/private. 🤷‍♀️ only explanation

ppl are allowed to have opinions 🤷‍♀️

“Who by jimin (28 days) becomes the fastest song by kpop act in history to reach 50 million stream on US Spotify, surpassing seven by jungkook feat latto (56 days).”

don’t cryyyyyyy scooter and pd don’t cryyyyy

they're probably not crying. they're probably trying to figure out how to make this about jk

miserable selfish gross men

hybe is genuinely one the most useless companies ever for jimin, who has been #1 on global spotify for #18 days, charting in over 50 countries yet isn’t added high on TTH playlist but songs that just released will have higher positions, make it make sense, im sooo tired

hybe was doing great for a while and the moment bts went into hiatus everything plummeted. they really forgot who their real allies were and started working against army. it really doesn't make sense why they dont support jimin more when he is literally their biggest money maker. send a team of pjms in there and they'll do better than the supposed industry professionals

'Who' on TTH playlist

#47 (-4)

Most likely out the next week ☹️

it's better than like crazy ever got so i guess we should be at least a bit happy?

if ur fave is the most popular soloist like u claim, u would have a lockdown, u wouldn’t need to use Jimin name for promo this just proves how irrelevant ur faves r outside fanwars ppl support them only bc they dislike someone else.

it’s really embarrassing for ur fave when hate tweets against other artists have more likes than tweets hyping the song

people drag jimin into things because thy know they'll get engagement. antis really focus on what jimin is doing and it shows in their favs streaming numbers. maybe if they stopped talking about jimin and focused on streaming their favs instead their stats wouldn't look so abysmal

https://www.tumblr.com/yuzuyoon/758917215482494977/how-did-you-like-episode-3-based-on-the-clips?source=share

After watching episode 3, I officially dislike th much more than jk. Like I disagree with jks professional decisions, and he is probably my 3rd least favorite in the group but th is down there with yg for me where not even their relationship and interactions with jm can save them.

as long as jimin is happy, i'm happy

Jm's pain list for episode 2: jk stepped on jm's heel (?) when they went grocery shopping

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