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I know is quite long, but what you have said is the Truth, yes in the Odyssey he is not the brightest mind nor soul; he is a pathological liar and is said like every two lines. Yes he slept with Circe and Calypso but not by choice.
Circe forced him to sleep with her or his crewmates would have stayed as pig and then bacon, maybe even he even with the Moly while he was stranded in Calypso's island and we know the rest.
I don't hate Ovid, because thanks to him I would have never known the stories, but is pretty blatant the way he wrote mortals and Medusa; and that's FINE as Epic is, (yes I'm comparing the two because REASONS ).
Funnily enough this is giving me Dante's Inferno flash flashbacks. In his take Odysseus after arriving and staying in Ithaca, abandons HIS FAMILY (PENELOPE AND TELEMACHUS INCLUDED) for the sake of adventure..
And as for "Not sorry for loving you", is without doubt a gaslighting and manipulation song in the original context; fun story: first time i listened to it i never knew it was from Epic as I did not see the title, I fell in love and also related with her because I was in a kinda similar situation although everything changed when I went up to listen to it again and then realization happend and found out what was really been sung.
So yeah, Odysseus is the Odyssey was forced and raped because of the situacion of the moment, in Epic that we know of, never slept with Circe and with Calypso i think but not really sire
In case, you see either my two posts about Epic: The Musical about "There Are Other Ways" and "I'm Not Sorry For Loving You", I want to clarify that I have nothing but respect for Jay's ability to write music. He's talented and he knows what he's doing as the songs are very clever in both music and lyrics and knowing the story makes the songs more impactful. The writing is for "There Are Other Ways" and "I'm Not Sorry For Loving You" shows that Jay knows EXACTLY the situation happening and how to disguise it to hide the nature of what is happening.
That said, I despise these songs because having read the Odyssey, I know what is going on when the songs are happening, and when Jay released snippets of these songs, I saw a lot of people misunderstand the situation because they don't have the same context I do, which is what drives my aggravation.
The second factor that drives my frustration is I have a strong feeling that people who don't read the Odyssey and hear the album are going to misconstrue Odysseus's character into someone who claims to love his wife, but cheats (which he doesn't do) and use these songs as their "proof". Even before Epic came out, people have called Odysseus a cheater and I will admit, I get a touch heated about that because this is my stance: If people want to claim Medusa's later adaptation from Ovid, Persephone, Io, etc. are victims, then they should recognize that Odysseus is one too. If they refuse to acknowledge Odysseus as one, they need to do some soul searching and ask some REALLY uncomfy questions.
I want to be clear: I'm not upset at Jay's writing nor do I think his writing is terrible. Yes, I said "I'm Not Sorry For Loving You" is the worst song ever, but if you read the post, I try to make it clear I'm not coming after Jay's writing, I'm trying to make it clear what the song actually is, rather than what it innocently looks like. Another song I would call the worst song ever is Into The Woods "Any Moment" and that's because of what the song is. Writing's great, music's great, but I still think that song is the worst song ever in Into The Woods given it's Cinderella's Prince looking to incite the Baker's Wife to cheat with him.
Ever since I've read the Odyssey, I was horrified that Odysseus has been treated like a cheater a lot. To be clear, Odysseus does shady, sneaky stuff, but where his feelings on his wife and son are concerned, that is the one consistent. He wants to be with his family. In short, those two posts are basically this:
