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HSR THOUGHTS:
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Topaz and Guinafen: Topaz’s Apple White Syndrome vs Guinafen’s Lore and Experience.


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This thought came to me when I added these two on a team together.
Diving right in, Apple White Syndrome is a name I’ve given to Characters who were or are under very specific and rare conditions in which they benefit or are benefited, and pressure others to follow suit in belief it is for the greater good, but it in reality puts others in far more suffering, and only benefits a select few if lucky.
Another Character who can be used as an example for this is Riddle Rosehearts pre-Overblot, but in a far more distant way.
Topaz’s world was saved by the IPC because their demand was that everyone, everyone in an entire world agreed to join them. Those odds are horrendously slim, but by sheer luck, everyone did agree. Because of this, the IPC did comply and save them, leading Topaz to believe the IPC and its work is actually good for the people.
Guinafen suffered immensely because of the IPC, when her world was completely destroyed by the Antimatter Legion, before her parents death, they sent, her, her siblings and ONE trusted family friend to be their legal guardian, and shipped them away to safety.
They landed on a mining planet taken over by the IPC.
After explaining their situation and expecting rescue or relief, not only did the IPC do absolutely nothing, they put those old enough to work in forced labor camps, lowkey slavery and even with that, the younger children who couldn’t work were under horrendous circumstances, living in a cave, given little to no payment; food or basic necessities, to the point the youngest often fought over lizards to eat. Directly after loosing everything and being stranded, they were immediately put through more shit. No mercy.
(Pre- existing Residents of this planet faced these conditions aswell, but possibly still had their homes)
The adult later passed on due to physical strain and exhaustion. Aka worked to death. Her three eldest brothers then turned to (space) piracy as a way of survival, they were later captured and executed, but pleaded safety for the youngest.
This lead to her arrival on the Xianzhou, Later meeting Sushang, who gave her the name Guinafen (her real name is Guinevere)
Working up from nothing, basically homeless and preforming on the street, got involved with a major government and supernatural conspiracy, then later becoming a planet famous social media influencer.
I think because of her experience, Guinafen would be the perfect person to knock some sense into Topaz.
Guinafen would most definitely take her by surprise, because of her naturally cheery nature, happy go lucky attitude and the fact she chose to move on. She’s the type of person who has either moved on, or created a mask even Sparkle would applaud at to cover that pain.
I think it’s majorly the former. She has chosen to continue life as best she can, restart from nothing.
This woman was once a noble, practically princess, of a world and planet now nonexistent. Someone who has become common passerby’s with Death, Dined with Thrist, Danced with Starvation and was cradled by Misery, but she made it out alive.
As a normal person in the Honkai Verse, When you see her online, filming ghost videos, or in the streets doing tricks, you’d never be able to guess that, would you?
I can imagine Topaz wouldn’t clock this, as most wouldn’t. I can imagine Topaz continuously praising the IPC for their help with her planet somehow in conversation, and Guinafen keeping her temper for a good while, pointing out certain things that seem extensively situational, but if it goes on for too long, she might, and has every right to snap.
I was thinking of it similarly to the scene in Ever After High where Apple is continuously stating how everyone should follow their destiny’s, and is happy Raven agreed to sign, and Briar, rightfully, snaps.
“Follow our destiny’s? Thats easy for you to say, Apple. You get poisoned for what, a week? I’m going to loose 100 years of my life. Everyone I love will be dead when I wake up.”
-Briar Beauty (Quote from memory so might not be as accurate)
That scene in particular. I think it would be actually amazing for Sushang, Seele or Bronya to be there aswell, given the entirety of the Belabog incident and the Aurem Alley issues. Just get someone to force her to really see the real effects of the IPC, as she actually possesses the ability to change some of it for the better.
“Look, I’m glad the IPC saved your planet, really, thats great for you, but you can’t tell me they are good people.
Good people don’t immediately take advantage of refugees who just lost everything, especially when only one of them is an adult.
Good people don’t let children get so hungry they fight over lizards like wild animals.
Good people don’t work the only adult with those children to death and leave them to fend for themselves, then get angry and pin the blame on them when they turn to piracy to survive.
Besides, did you ever stop to realize or think about the fact that they probably thought there was no way everyone would agree to that? They would get people forced to work for them either way, by their own will or against it.”
I don’t know alot about Topaz, so somethings on her side might be inaccurate, but I’ve read through all of Guinafens lore, and DAMN, shits sad. Her and Aventurine be traumabonding on my team trust.
Anyway, thats just some thoughts!