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ok it's been a billion years since you've posted it but oh my gosh ur theory is so good. i had been theorizing the same thing myself. imma yap about some other things to consider, as well as brainstorm as i go!!!! im so normal about this game LMAO im just yapping here
as for the lady in red and tryst after death, i speculate that the woman he loved so dearly may have used him for his wealth when he thought she was different from all the others. he may have had a child with her and everything and found out she was just like all the other women and because of this, caused him to spiral even more because the one person he felt he had an escape with was all just a trap. this also can be seen in that grey area with all the ladies, because it's the place where u get locked in a room with ib's parents on a painting that even garry can see, (which feeds into a whole nother idea i have but i'll save that yapfest for later), but is still ruined and the "safe room" is invaded by the ladies. the painting is literally titled "couple" and in a safe room away from all the ladies but gets invaded and broken by them anyways, not even using the door to come in but breaking in through the wall, which could symbolize that the downfall of his relationship was unexpected and so damaging that it left a permanent stain on his heart.
as for what mary's description implies, i think with this theory, it might imply that guertena's happiness was never real. mary is supposed to represent the happiness he wish he had but bc of that, she was painted with jealousy in mind. he died an old man, bc i did math and calculated that from some point in highschool all the way to his death, he had at least 53 years of art experience, making him at least 68 by the time he died (the numbers next to the painting descriptions represent years, confirmed by kouri, meaning this takes place far into the future sometime after the year 6248). this also, branching off ur theory, could be defended by the description of serpentine spirit (6248) ---->
"Beginning with this piece, Guertena shifted to greater focus on abstract art. But at the time, cubism was more in vogue, leaving Guertena's various abstract works largely ignored."
with this, it could be that guertena's efforts were never taken into consideration, which feeds off ur theory again, where its clear that the value of a person is not seen any deeper than skin-level. no one saw the value of his works because they werent cubism.
mary's implication also ties into color theory and the other theory that "mistake" couldve been a self portrait of guertena when he was younger. flower language says yellow roses can be used to convey friendship or be signs of jealousy during the victorian era, which is what surrounds mary in her portrait. if we take that into consideration, as well as the mistake painting, yellow and blue (if we take symbolism shown throughout the game of the red and blue pairings) combined makes green: guertena painting with bitterness. this could also be why mary and garry dont mix well, because in guertena's world, green is a sign of bitterness to him, which would honestly be so funny but at the end of the day, its entirely speculation off of just a few points.
yapping here vv
honestly??? the mention of yellow roses signifying jealousy in the victorian era led me to dig into that historical era a bit: the clothes of the late victorian era look similar to the clothes worn by ibs parents and the lady in red!!! the clothes are very simplified but have a clear victorian influence. this could definitely tie into the theory of the yellow roses not only signifying mary's friendliness, but also guertenas jealousy OF her! green being her major color despite having a yellow rose would tie into that too. if we take green meaning jealousy, would that mean that at garry's core, he is also a bitter and jealous person? underneath his coat, he wears a green tanktop. blue as a standalone color means grace, wisdom, and stability. blue roses often imply something is mysterious or longing for the impossible. ib just wears red, like her rose, the only one without a variety of colors in her outfit! garry is ib's rock throughout this entire journey, which would connect with that stability and wisdom that he provides to her, but his background is a complete mystery despite us knowing hes not well off (he could be middle or lower class) and he likes sweets. the feeling of longing could tie into your theory of garry showing a similar perception of life to how guertena lived, which would really explain more about his character and upbringing. tying back to that thing about guertena living to be at least 68, that means he lived a really safe life, bc the average live expectancy during the victorian era was around 40. to live that long, he def was privileged to the day he died. this could also tie back to that bitterness bc he had it all, just like ib did, but never was happy or satisfied with himself or the people around him. one thing he really lacked was that openness and maybe even that love that ib has with her and that she gets from her family.
anyways im done yapping
i just wanted to add in my own lil pieces to defend ur theory a bit or add some food for thought. ive been obsessed with ib for the longest and accidentally found this theory while searching for guertena's self portrait. a thing i noticed about his self portrait was him painting something with green. the shape looks like mary's lower dress but the legs wouldnt make sense as they look to curvy to be her legs. u can tell me ur thoughts or if anyone else has any ideas, that'd be cool!! anyways, im done yapping byebyeeee
Ib Theory - The World of Guertena, part 2
One of the things in Ib that I’ve spent a lot of time trying to figure out is just what Weiss Guertena was like. I’ve touched a bit on it before, largely in the context of how I think the world operates, and what the implications are for a perfect ending where everyone survives. But I didn’t really talk much about Guertena himself, or about what I think the world actually is. So now, I’d like to talk a bit about my perceptions on the man himself, and what his painted world is really all about.
I should note: I consider this a lot more my perception than anything else. There’s very little known of the guy, and perceptions about the painted world and how it works varies greatly, I’m sure. This is more a reference guide; an explanation of my thoughts regarding how the painted world works so that things will make more sense when I start talking about our protagonists later on.
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