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Sons of Bitches, How dare IGN trick us with a fake second season for the Mandalorian šš
Idk about y'all but my body was ready. I thought it was real š. Not gonna be suprised if people aren't going to believe them after this one.
i kinda give the show itself a pass in this respect because there are only one or two named characters (male or female) besides din and they usually donāt interact. din being male severely limits the chances for named female-female interaction. i mean if you genderbent din and did a reverse bechdel test (same criteria but for male instead of female characters) i'm pretty sure season 2 would fail. so itās not really a gender thing and more of a small cast thing.
however, fanfiction doesnāt have that excuse because there are no limits to what characters you can have interact. youāre right - looking through my bookmarks, i might have a fic or two with some omera & winta conversation but thatās the extent of the female-female interactions. i would def be interested in finding fics that pass the bechdel test. i donāt usually read fics with ocs but iām willing to give it a shot if theyāre decently written.
How well does The Mandalorian pass the Bechdel Test?
I kinda got grumbling about representation of women in Mandalorian fanfiction as it relates to the abundance of nameless reader-insert characters a couple days ago. Namely, the general failure of the Bechdel test ā does the story have two women who talk to each other about something other than a man? One step further ā do both women have names? Two steps further ā do they talk about something other than babies?
It shouldnāt seem that radical ā two named characters who are women who talk to each other about something other than men or babies. Yet so few fanfics pass this benchmark. Among a set of authors who I suspect are mostly women.
Granted, the source material of the show presents a challenge in that the focus is, wellā¦ a man and a baby. And then I had to think about how long it took for the show itself to pass the Bechdel test, and Iām pretty sure it didnāt happen until late in the second season.
The first time two named women appear in the same episode was s1e4: Sanctuary, with Cara Dune and Omera. While Omera is named in the credits, I donāt think anyone calls her by name during the episode. Iām also pretty sure Cara and Omera donāt talk to each other directly. The closest we get is when Cara is telling the villagers they have to abandon their homes and Omera protests. Omera later serves Cara a beverage and Cara thanks her. Aaaannndā¦ thatās it! I donāt feel like this passes.
The next time we get two named women in the same episode is s1e8: Redemption, with the Armorer and Cara. Whether āthe Armorerā as a title counts as a name is up for debate. I guess Din goes nameless most of the season as well, so Iāll allow it. Regardless, in their limited time together in the Forge, they donāt really interact. Cara notes that the Imps will arrive soon and the Armorer instructs them on how to escape. Aaaannndā¦ thatās it! Season One fails the Bechdel test.
The next time we get two named women in the same episode is s2e2: The Passenger, with Peli Motto and Frog Lady. Again, whether āFrog Ladyā actually counts as a name is up for debate, and I donāt think Peli is ever called by name, either. They do have a brief, but direct, conversation confirming the presence of Mandalorians on Trask, albeit itās in Frog language and we canāt understand it. Iād give this one a maybe, depending on how strong one wants to hold to the criteria.
Next up: s2e3: The Heiress, with Bo-Katan Kryze and Koska Reeves. I donāt think Koska is ever called by name. Thereās some battle interaction, and theyāre having a conversation at a table, though we donāt hear any of it. Weak maybe.
Next up: s2e5: The Jedi, with Ahsoka Tano and Morgan Elsbeth. Finally, a solid pass! Ahsoka and Morgan have a direct verbal exchange at the beginning of the episode regarding the well-being of the townspeople and they are both called by name. Ahsoka questions Morgan directly after winning their duel, and there is, presumably, an interrogation, though itās off-screen.
Next up: s2e7: The Believer, with Cara and Fennec Shand. Both are named and they have a conversation about setting up their strategy, and closely coordinate their shots while Din and Mayfeld escape the compound. Solid pass.
Last up: s2e8: The Rescue, with Cara, Fennec, Bo-Katan, and Koska. Bo-Katan calls Koska off of Boba at the cantina; battle planning directly between Bo-Katan and Cara, with Fennec participating in the general planning; the radio exchange between Bo-Katan and the unnamed Imperial coms officer; some battle conversation between Cara, Fennec, Bo-Katan, and Koska as they mow Stormtroopers down on their way to the bridge; and a few direct lines between them on the bridge itself. Solid pass.
So, out of 16 total episodes in the first two seasons so far, only 7, fewer than half, have at least two women who appear in the same scenes, and only three of those are what I would call a solid pass. Not a fantastic track record.
What surprises me here is the number of near misses ā four of the seven came so close but didnāt quite make it. It becomes more surprising when you consider Dave Filoniās prior work. While the male:female character ratio in The Clone Wars wasn't stellar, whenever two women were in the room together, they almost always had names and they almost always had direct conversations with each other about politics or battle strategy or something. Rebels was even better by way of Hera Syndulla and Sabine Wren together on the same ship. My memory of Jon Favreauās prior work isnāt super-sharp on this subject, but the MCU didnāt offer a whole lot of opportunities (though I admit Iāve managed to miss most of the newer Spiderman stuff). Maybe Dave needs to steer Jon in the right direction on this for later seasons.
Point being: one of the great uses of fanfic is filling the gaps left by the source material. The Mandalorian has some huge gaps in terms of women with names who talk to each other (about something other than men and babies). The potential is enormous. Did Cara and Omera develop a friendship on Sorgan? Cara and Fennec seem to get along well ā how did they become such fast friends? Why is Koska so loyal to Bo-Katan? These are all easy things to tuck in around our favorite Man and Baby. Like, you know Cara and Fennec are having conversations about their favorite guns while Dinās in the back losing his mind over finding Grogu. Itās not hard. (And yes, Iām working on a few of these, myself.)
Iāll also admit Iāve been so wrapped up in my own writing lately that I havenāt had much time to check out AO3. If anyone has some good examples of Mando fanfic that passes the Bechdel test, please feel free to reblog with recommendations! OCs with names - actual developed characters who are their own people - count as well! (Conversations can, of course, include our favorite Man and Baby, but just not be limited to them.)
Happy writing!
The Mandalorian - Reference Guide for Writers
Despite not writing fanfic since a severe bout of depression a few years ago, I still soak up research in my favorite fandoms just in case my muse returns.Ā
In honor of all of my fellow Mandalorian fans I figured Iād share the notes I took during the season two openerĀ āChapter 9: The Marshalā (2x01)
SPOILERS UNDER THE CUTĀ (and apologizes for my handwriting!!)

Note - Peliās pit droidĀ ānamesā are my own creation, itās just how I refer to them in my head :PĀ
Please tell me after watching Chapter 15 of The Mandalorian - am I the only one who found themselves low-key shipping Cara and Mayfield?!

Mayfield had two or three āthatās my future wifeā moments in the first part of the episode and then Cara threw a ājust maybe Iād let him take me for a drinkā vibe after complimenting his shooting towards the end.
My dad balked and rolled his eyes when I commented but I know I canāt be the only one!
Mayfield + Cara = Mara ā¤ļø