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4 years ago

Sons of Bitches, How dare IGN trick us with a fake second season for the Mandalorian šŸ˜­šŸ˜­

Idk about y'all but my body was ready. I thought it was real šŸ˜‚. Not gonna be suprised if people aren't going to believe them after this one.


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3 years ago

i kinda give the show itself a pass in this respect because there are only one or two named characters (male or female) besides din and they usually donā€™t interact. din being male severely limits the chances for named female-female interaction. i mean if you genderbent din and did a reverse bechdel test (same criteria but for male instead of female characters) i'm pretty sure season 2 would fail. so itā€™s not really a gender thing and more of a small cast thing.

however, fanfiction doesnā€™t have that excuse because there are no limits to what characters you can have interact. youā€™re right - looking through my bookmarks, i might have a fic or two with some omera & winta conversation but thatā€™s the extent of the female-female interactions. i would def be interested in finding fics that pass the bechdel test. i donā€™t usually read fics with ocs but iā€™m willing to give it a shot if theyā€™re decently written.

How well does The Mandalorian pass the Bechdel Test?

I kinda got grumbling about representation of women in Mandalorian fanfiction as it relates to the abundance of nameless reader-insert characters a couple days ago. Namely, the general failure of the Bechdel test ā€“ does the story have two women who talk to each other about something other than a man? One step further ā€“ do both women have names? Two steps further ā€“ do they talk about something other than babies?

It shouldnā€™t seem that radical ā€“ two named characters who are women who talk to each other about something other than men or babies. Yet so few fanfics pass this benchmark. Among a set of authors who I suspect are mostly women.

Granted, the source material of the show presents a challenge in that the focus is, wellā€¦ a man and a baby. And then I had to think about how long it took for the show itself to pass the Bechdel test, and Iā€™m pretty sure it didnā€™t happen until late in the second season.

The first time two named women appear in the same episode was s1e4: Sanctuary, with Cara Dune and Omera. While Omera is named in the credits, I donā€™t think anyone calls her by name during the episode. Iā€™m also pretty sure Cara and Omera donā€™t talk to each other directly. The closest we get is when Cara is telling the villagers they have to abandon their homes and Omera protests. Omera later serves Cara a beverage and Cara thanks her. Aaaannndā€¦ thatā€™s it! I donā€™t feel like this passes.

The next time we get two named women in the same episode is s1e8: Redemption, with the Armorer and Cara. Whether ā€œthe Armorerā€ as a title counts as a name is up for debate. I guess Din goes nameless most of the season as well, so Iā€™ll allow it. Regardless, in their limited time together in the Forge, they donā€™t really interact. Cara notes that the Imps will arrive soon and the Armorer instructs them on how to escape. Aaaannndā€¦ thatā€™s it! Season One fails the Bechdel test.

The next time we get two named women in the same episode is s2e2: The Passenger, with Peli Motto and Frog Lady. Again, whether ā€œFrog Ladyā€ actually counts as a name is up for debate, and I donā€™t think Peli is ever called by name, either. They do have a brief, but direct, conversation confirming the presence of Mandalorians on Trask, albeit itā€™s in Frog language and we canā€™t understand it. Iā€™d give this one a maybe, depending on how strong one wants to hold to the criteria.

Next up: s2e3: The Heiress, with Bo-Katan Kryze and Koska Reeves. I donā€™t think Koska is ever called by name. Thereā€™s some battle interaction, and theyā€™re having a conversation at a table, though we donā€™t hear any of it. Weak maybe.

Next up: s2e5: The Jedi, with Ahsoka Tano and Morgan Elsbeth. Finally, a solid pass! Ahsoka and Morgan have a direct verbal exchange at the beginning of the episode regarding the well-being of the townspeople and they are both called by name. Ahsoka questions Morgan directly after winning their duel, and there is, presumably, an interrogation, though itā€™s off-screen.

Next up: s2e7: The Believer, with Cara and Fennec Shand. Both are named and they have a conversation about setting up their strategy, and closely coordinate their shots while Din and Mayfeld escape the compound. Solid pass.

Last up: s2e8: The Rescue, with Cara, Fennec, Bo-Katan, and Koska. Bo-Katan calls Koska off of Boba at the cantina; battle planning directly between Bo-Katan and Cara, with Fennec participating in the general planning; the radio exchange between Bo-Katan and the unnamed Imperial coms officer; some battle conversation between Cara, Fennec, Bo-Katan, and Koska as they mow Stormtroopers down on their way to the bridge; and a few direct lines between them on the bridge itself. Solid pass.

So, out of 16 total episodes in the first two seasons so far, only 7, fewer than half, have at least two women who appear in the same scenes, and only three of those are what I would call a solid pass. Not a fantastic track record.

What surprises me here is the number of near misses ā€“ four of the seven came so close but didnā€™t quite make it. It becomes more surprising when you consider Dave Filoniā€™s prior work. While the male:female character ratio in The Clone Wars wasn't stellar, whenever two women were in the room together, they almost always had names and they almost always had direct conversations with each other about politics or battle strategy or something. Rebels was even better by way of Hera Syndulla and Sabine Wren together on the same ship. My memory of Jon Favreauā€™s prior work isnā€™t super-sharp on this subject, but the MCU didnā€™t offer a whole lot of opportunities (though I admit Iā€™ve managed to miss most of the newer Spiderman stuff). Maybe Dave needs to steer Jon in the right direction on this for later seasons.

Point being: one of the great uses of fanfic is filling the gaps left by the source material. The Mandalorian has some huge gaps in terms of women with names who talk to each other (about something other than men and babies). The potential is enormous. Did Cara and Omera develop a friendship on Sorgan? Cara and Fennec seem to get along well ā€“ how did they become such fast friends? Why is Koska so loyal to Bo-Katan? These are all easy things to tuck in around our favorite Man and Baby. Like, you know Cara and Fennec are having conversations about their favorite guns while Dinā€™s in the back losing his mind over finding Grogu. Itā€™s not hard. (And yes, Iā€™m working on a few of these, myself.)

Iā€™ll also admit Iā€™ve been so wrapped up in my own writing lately that I havenā€™t had much time to check out AO3. If anyone has some good examples of Mando fanfic that passes the Bechdel test, please feel free to reblog with recommendations! OCs with names - actual developed characters who are their own people - count as well! (Conversations can, of course, include our favorite Man and Baby, but just not be limited to them.)

Happy writing!


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4 years ago

The Mandalorian - Reference Guide for Writers

Despite not writing fanfic since a severe bout of depression a few years ago, I still soak up research in my favorite fandoms just in case my muse returns.Ā 

In honor of all of my fellow Mandalorian fans I figured Iā€™d share the notes I took during the season two openerĀ ā€œChapter 9: The Marshalā€ (2x01)

SPOILERS UNDER THE CUTĀ  (and apologizes for my handwriting!!)

The Mandalorian - Reference Guide For Writers

Note - Peliā€™s pit droidĀ ā€œnamesā€ are my own creation, itā€™s just how I refer to them in my head :PĀ 


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4 years ago

Please tell me after watching Chapter 15 of The Mandalorian - am I the only one who found themselves low-key shipping Cara and Mayfield?!

Please Tell Me After Watching Chapter 15 Of The Mandalorian - Am I The Only One Who Found Themselves

Mayfield had two or three ā€œthatā€™s my future wifeā€ moments in the first part of the episode and then Cara threw a ā€œjust maybe Iā€™d let him take me for a drinkā€ vibe after complimenting his shooting towards the end.

My dad balked and rolled his eyes when I commented but I know I canā€™t be the only one!

Mayfield + Cara = Mara ā¤ļø


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