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asocial-skye

myra. burnt out gifted kid. Asian. she/her.

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Every Week @dykerory And I Will Have Another Conversation About How George Lucas Is A Racist Idiot And

every week @dykerory and i will have another conversation about how george lucas is a racist idiot and it's insane people haven't realized that by now and every week someone will make a new dumbass post that sets us off again

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2 years ago

best kind of writing is the kind that's like 'we didn't think about the implications of any of this, and surprise! we created nuanced characters and complex worldbuilding'


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2 years ago

i love the jedi, and I do think that there is a lot to be said about attachment and toxic love, but i think that you are absolutely right in that the old jedi way falls apart the second that it is confronted with people not born into it.

the jedi, quite frankly, have a way of life that works. It's monastic, and it's a valid way. like, looking at the core tenets of jedi philosophy, it's not inherently bad. my religion is very anti-attachment, and letting shit go. however, the jedi way sucks for literally anyone who such deep, wired trauma that you can't just let go. and whenever i see a bunch of grown adults telling this child that worrying for your mother, who is enslaved, is toxic attachment will never sit well with me. it doesn't matter that he didn't tell them; what child would confide these things to random strangers?

you're absolutely spot on about how the jedi genuinely believe that once you are on the path of the darkside, there is literally no escape. (it's hilarious that even in new canon, it's like, people keep falling and coming back and even then they're just like, no one can ever come back. they are lost)

overall, the old jedi way feels like non-attachment and mindfullness taken to their extremes, where any sort of deviance is seen as a path to the dark side. it's not healthy at all.

sorry if nothing makes sense, i was vomiting my thoughts.

prequels jedi order is so reliant on not giving it's subjects a choice from inclusively taking in infants so they would have little to compare rigid jedi lifestyle to as they don't know much outside of it to lying to luke about vader. there's something to say about lack of confidence they have in that people would choose their ways on their own free will lol

so: i don't think it's that. i have complicated opinions on why i think the jedi order relies on training infants, and it's not about restricting their choice, it's about controlling their life experiences.

in TPM, the council's rejection of anakin is reliant on him being too old..... and too fearful. too angry. the issue is not that he's strictly too old, it's that with age, he has accumulated life experiences that have made him behave in ways the jedi council at this time believes are immutable. their rejection of anakin is rooted in the strong feelings he struggles to control; that rejection would imply that the jedi have a mindset that once someone feels a certain type of way, once someone is stuck in a pattern of thought and behavior that is antithetical to the jedi way of life, that cannot be fixed, changed, or adjusted. it's an idea that also plays out in yoda's quote about the dark side, that once you give into feeling fear that once, it forever dominates your destiny - once you start on that path, you can't leave it. we know yoda's wrong, because the saga will go on to demonstrate the opposite, but clearly what they believed is not only that anakin was too old, anakin was too old to help.

that's partially why it drives me up the wall when the jedi way of life is consistently compared to cognitive behavioral therapy, so therefore the jedi must believe in the concept of therapy, which is just not what's borne out by TPM. the jedi believe in mindful thinking, universally, for everyone. demonstrably they do not believe that people who are in crisis can ever work through that crisis, which is what the concept of therapy is supposed to be centered on. that state, the fear, hate, and anger that overtakes the brain, that in the idea of the jedi council in this film is immutable, and you can't back down from it. children from traumatic backgrounds will feel fear, hate, guilt, sadness, and anger very regularly, often at uncontrollable and painful levels. often in ways they, as children, aren't equipped to understand or communicate to anyone else. the jedi take in infants to control not their members but the life experiences of their members; if you believe the effects of childhood trauma forever send you down the path of the dark side, anakin skywalker, whose tagline is A Lot Of Bad Shit Keeps Happening To Me All The Time, is a terrifying prospect.

but; the saga goes on to confirm this as very, very wrong, not only through vader's heel-face return to the light, but because luke touches the dark side. and stops. luke - someone who violently lost his aunt, uncle, and countless friends, only to discover his father was at the center of that and also that his father would cut off his hand - was taunted with the idea that vader would turn leia to the dark, and fucking lost his shit. and then he reeled it in. he controlled the impulse, and stuck to who he wanted to be. lying to luke about vader isn't yoda and obi-wan trying to control luke's urge to be a jedi, they're trying to box out negative experience, negative trauma, that they feel would entice him to the dark side - but, like, they were always a little wrong about what was actually pushing those naughty skywalkers closer to the dark side anyway.


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2 years ago

maybe it’s cuz i’m getting older but i’m thoroughly unamused by how every media consumption is being reduced solely to ships and the desire to have people date each other. what’s wrong with friendships. what’s wrong with found family. what’s wrong with roommates. what’s wrong with mentor relationships. why is the end goal of everything to have two+ people be shipped together.


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