I Am Sincerely Sick Of Hori Presenting The Leagues Unity As A Good Thing When Theyre Hurting People Together

I am sincerely sick of hori presenting the league’s unity as a good thing when they’re hurting people together for a selfish and crappy goal

damn me too, i'm sick of hori pulling some cheap baits of sad past, pitiful moment for those villains instead of showing more that they are wrong. like, he clearly did that, calling out their faults. but those callouts just... passed like a background instead of weighting the actual importance of its meaning? that's why i'm so frustrated with the dabi-shouto battle. hori never emphasizes the faults of the villains. instead he threw in all the bullshits found family this, sad past that, corrupt system this, bad heroes that, and i disgust this action.

Absolutely true. Let's no forget that at the end of S3, when they went back in time, he literally outed himself as a rapist as well. His words to Emma were that if she approached his past self, "the different between me now and that guy (his own past) is that I take no for an answer."

Fucking WHAT.

So, this guy admits on screen that he used to routinely sexually assault women and it is never addressed again and he's still treated like some suave Bad Boy that Emma should want to date?

Let's not talk about how he also lied about "well, I'll take no for an answer." Hello, the entire dynamic with this guy is that since he walked on screen in S2 he has not been respecting Emma's "no, I'm not interested, go away, stop lurking". He is literally that guy in a bar harassing a girl who turned him down because he thinks he can change her mind by being belligerent. He's never respected anyone's no, the narrators just made him eventually wear Emma down. And he apparently never respected anyone's no back then either.

Hook is a giant walking red flag and consent issue and the writers should be ashamed of trying to sell them as being in love.

Hook is basically a "Nice Guy". He told Emma she owed him a kiss for saving her father (no, the fact Emma kissed him first and liked it does not excuse how wrong this is), he doesn't take no (she told him the kiss was a one-time thing and her expressions show no interest in him) for an answer, can't comprehend why Emma doesn't want him even though he's "good" now, flat out told her he *will* win her heart, and in the end he got Emma as a reward for giving up his ship/"redeeming" himself.

pretty much. and the only reason his actions were often glossed over or interpreted as romantic was solely because he was played by a conventionally attractive white guy. if he had been played by mrj instead of c.olin or by any other less attractive actor you can bet no one would be willfully ignoring his gross bullshit.

Personally, I think the real reason people keep insisting MDZS is told from WWX's POV, even though they admit it's third person omniscient, is because JC is addressed by his birth name 'Jiang Cheng' throughout the entire novel and not his courtesy name. So people wrongly assume it must be from WWX's perspective...

Well, those that cling to such a take aren't going to like the real answer to this... But that's still not the case. If it were from WWX's perspective, JYL would be addressed as 'Shijie', LWJ would be 'Lan Zhan' and JFM would be 'Jiang-shushu' etc. JC is addressed by his birth name throughout the novel because even the narrator thinks he is a clown.

Sorry, but that's the reason. They do not think he deserves respect, just as the rest of the cultivation world doesn't either. If you actually look at the text, you'll notice behind his back, nearly everyone calls JC by his birth name out of disrespect - it's literally in the first few chapters for all to see. He's rarely called by his courtesy name by anyone other than LWJ, WWX when he's pissed and later by JGY and XY in the extras. That's it. It's a show of disrespect throughout the novel and the narrator shows the same. JC isn't called 'Sandu Shengshou' for nothing you know, it's a running theme of disrespect for a character that doesn't deserve much if any at all.

Mdzs Fandom: JC suffered so much, he lost his entire family and sister and even his clan, surely his taking out his anger and resentment at others is totally misunderstood and reasonable, I relate to him so much 🥹

WN (who lost not only his sister and entire family and clan but also his literal life, and was held captive and experimented on for thirteen years as a trophy, watches his relatives die a second time, is treated with prejudice and disdain and fear by most of the cultivation world, yet despite all this still manages to retain a bone-deep kindness and humility, as well as a sense of righteousness as fierce as himself): Am I a joke to you?

This is what I meant when I said characters who are constantly declaring what they went through are put up on a pedestal for their non existent resilience. It's so easy to forget that other characters went through much of the same pain and handled their circumstances better, like WN who went through literal hell himself, because he barely mentions and even downplays his suffering.