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Needing More Screentime To Flesh Out Supporting Characters And Their Arcs And Not Getting It, While Claiming

Needing more screentime to flesh out supporting characters and their arcs and not getting it, while claiming it happened—Chloe *cough* "damnation arc" *cough*—seems to be a common theme in this show.....

*Lucille Bluth voice* I don care for Zoe.

Look, I'm that dumb salty fan that simply can't get over her fave character being sacked. But is sooo anoying that not only the bee hero was replaced, also the cute girl, the creative girl, the gay girl, the actress girl, the rich girl, the shy girl, the etc girl... all by the same character. And Thomas was all like omg you cant wait to meet her shes so like the coolest omg you see her already? Didnt told ya she was thE cooLest?? OMG

Zoe is not the swiss knife that TA thinks she is, otherwise she would have her own show, but that would be starting from zero and I guess is easier having long lost sisters out of the blue or whatever.

I'm sorry for the vent Mr. Iota. What do I know anyway, I'm not the creator of the show that is more famous than pokemon.

At the very least, Zoe should have been introduced earlier to better establish her as a character so she isn't just seen as Queen Bee's replacement. A lot of the traits the show gives her could work in the right context, but she doesn't get enough screentime to really flesh out things like her past with bullying or her growing feelings for Marinette.

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1 year ago

Thank you for answering! Putting this into one of many notes about Spanish 😄

Sorry about this question, since it might be a bit vague, but I just want to be informed.

There's something I came across, where "tengo qué" means "I have to". Why? Is "qué" a versatile word that has multiple meanings, depending on context?

Yes and no

qué "what" is considered different from que "that/which", and then sometimes has idiomatic uses with other verbs

tener que + infinitive is "to have to do something" [in Spain and in older Spanish you sometimes see haber de + infinitive]

That's considered a more idiomatic usage of it, but like tengo que hacer la tarea "I have to do the homework", or tengo que hacer unos deberes "I have a few chores to do" is considered an idiomatic expression of tener; and the que doesn't have any specific grammatical meaning

But it doesn't have an accent mark

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If you see qué it's an unknown thing, a "what". Primarily it's questions, but it can just be an unknown noun

If I saw tengo qué I would interpret it as ¿tengo qué? "I have what?"

The que without the accent mark is often "that/which", a word that connects clauses [two or more subjects and verbs]

In other words, es un lugar que conozco "it's a place that I know"; the que separates es "it is" and conozco "I know", separate subjects and verbs

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There are other uses of que as idiomatic, like in some commands or indirect commands; very different from what you were asking about so I don't want to confuse you

1 year ago

Imma make these one day

not a dream

you know those vases with crocheted flowers in them?

i just think they're sooooooooooo neat


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1 year ago

I wonder... How do people just. KNOW. their sexual orientation?

I know some people know immediately, and some know later, but it just amazes me how they are able to realize it and just... go with it?

I can't even make a decision on what kind of coffee to buy, how do you do it???


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1 year ago

I remember something that somebody mentioned to me here, which was when I was questioning the whole "senti-Adrien" thing, and why Emilie and Gabriel never considered IVF or adoption. After all, Emilie was toted as an angel, so pretty sure biological connection shouldn't matter.

What they told me was that there wasn't much to Emilie anyway. Sure, she was represented as kind, but there was next to nothing else besides that. She was practically a blank slate, so unfortunately, there was nothing to contradict her.

Which, in a show that also toted family love as one of its strongest values, is sad when the LITERAL DRIVING POINT to the whole story has next to nothing going for her.

Wondering about how much of Adrien is real seems to be the tip of the "Astruc didn't think things through" iceberg. How much of any senti-person is genuine? Does Tomoe only think Kagami can't draw because she cannot? Is Felix an ass because Colt Fathom was?

(Post this ask was in reference to)

I'm always wary of laying all of the blame at any one person's feet without hard evidence that this is only their fault since there's a core writing team and pretty much every episode has multiple credited writers. Add in the fact that many other people are also directly and indirectly involved in the writing process and it becomes real hard to point fingers from the outside, which is why I tend to generally wave at the whole crew under the banner of "writers". Other than that issue, I agree with you. It seems like everyone involved either didn't think the idea through very well or they thought it was a kids show, so the horrifying implications didn't matter.

I never know what a kid will pick up on and Miraculous' target demographic is pretty young, so this may indeed be something that flies over most kids heads. It's still not a risk that I would take, though, and I'm baffled as to why they even did it.

This isn't supposed to be a super dark show, so you generally want to avoid including dark elements unless they're absolutely vital because why risk upsetting your audience when you don't need to? And the writers really didn't need to. They went the "Emilie had no idea that the peacock would kill her" route and, once you go that route, you don't need to give her a complex motivation for using the peacock. Complexity is only required if she knew that using it would kill her. And even if they did go the "she knew" route, they still picked a terrible motivation! If your infertility is effecting you so badly that you're willing to die to get a baby, then you don't need a magic baby. You need mental health support because you are in a very dark place.


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1 year ago

Oof, I didn't even think about that. But now that it's been put out there, one realizes just how messed up the whole sentimonster thing is.

It also brings up questions about what a sentimonster is, what it can do, and how the Peacock Miraculous holder influences it.

Most sentimonsters present in the show aren't capable of free will, like the Banana Gorilla and the Reflekdoll—and the one that did gain it was the Sentibug, who just got poofed anyway by Mayura in the end.

However, Adrien never had that "break-out" moment, and if he did have one, we never saw it. So, the question really does put in a dark turn to the whole Adrien being a sentimonster.

One can argue that Adrien rebelling against his father is a sign of free will, but you have to wonder how much of that is Adrien's personality that he cultured himself and not some pre-programmed behavioral traits that Emilie wanted in a son.

The same goes for Félix. How much of his personality is his, brought about his father's abuse... or are they behavioral traits his father programmed in him or lingering emotions Colt was expressing himself before he died.

Then there's also the twin rings, and how Félix stole one of them that had his amok in it, so he could gain control back. Doesn't that imply that if you gain a sentimonster's amok, you could control it, even if you aren't the Peacock Miraculous holder?

I don't think Thomas Astruc thought this whole sentimonster thing through, because you've basically got several cans of worms that put darker twists into this whole Miraculous Ladybug stuff that can't just be ignored.

However, I highly doubt that he'll do anything about it. It kind of makes me wonder if he even realized exactly what he was doing by making sentient sentimonsters.

I think one of the worse things about Adrien being made a Senti is that now, I got to question how genuine he is and what is potentially influenced by Gabriel subconsciously.

Like, Adrien's stance on Chloe and Lila, both of whom help Gabriel with his agenda, it could be through Gabriel's influence that Adrien sides with them/discourages Marinette from challenging them. If they are stopped, Gabriel wouldn't have them to help him.

And then there's the matter of his romantic feelings and how he works off Ladybug. Gabriel wants to know who she is under the mask, and Adrien is often pushing for a reveal. Gabriel has a spiteful obsession over Ladybug, to the point he skipped out over his easy win with the Rabbit, and you got Adrien unable to divert away from Ladybug even when he starts dating another.

Is it possible that Adrien is just echoing Gabriel's agenda and intentions and is mistaking that for romantic love?

Given that whoever holds the item can fully control the senti, supposedly, yeah I now got to wonder what's truly Adrien and what's Gabriel's influence.

It goes even further than that. Whoever has the amok seems to be able to control literally every facet of your personality and those commands seem to hang around until someone overwrites them, so is anything about Adrien real? We know that Emilie was wearing one of the rings in her coffin, implying that she entered her magical coma while wearing it, so it's quite reasonable to assume that she actively used it pre-coma. In that case, what commands of hers are still controlling Adrien? What command of Gabriel's and Nathalie's were never undone? Who even is Adrien?

Like is his lack of strong negative feelings about his mother's death real or just the result of her telling him to not mourn her like she told Gabriel to not mourn her? Is he into piano because of natural interest or because his mom wanted him to like piano? Is his lack of career goals because no one bothered to program them in? Is he even capable of developing his own wants? Is his interest in Ladybug real or is it because she's kind of similar to Kagami and Kagami was the one he was supposed to fall in love with, so he just imprinted on the wrong girl? That last one is not helped by Kagami falling for Adrien's clone at the drop of a hat.

All of this is yet another reason why the sentistuff repulses me on a fundamental level. It just completely undermines everything about Adrien's character. This is not the sort of plot you pick for a rom-com and I'm here for the rom-com.