Talking To Rhaegar Obsessed Weirdos Is Always So Funny Because Theyll Have Every Argument Booted To Defend

Talking to Rhaegar obsessed weirdos is always so funny because they’ll have every argument booted to defend him from being a creep with Lyanna Stark.

“GRRM wrote Rhaegar & Lyanna to be romantic” … “Lyanna was of age in that world”…

…”If you can’t stand age gap spicy relationships why are you reading ASOIAF?”….

….”yeah well George said Rhaegar was love struck” ….

…. “Yeah well Lyanna was holding winter roses!!!”

…”you just want woke points!!”

…”you hate that Lyanna had agency!!!”

But then POINT OUT that all of those arguments used to defend the Rhaegar & Lyanna ship ALSO apply to the relationship between Khal Drogo & Daenerys and SUDDENLY they understand why some people are rightfully uncomfortable with Rhaegar & Lyanna.

Then they understand that a child cannot consent, that it doesn’t really matter what the author wrote, and that the grown man character is unquestionably a creep.

Truly what is the difference between 14 year old Daenerys being pregnant by a man years older than her and romanticizing him as her sun and stars to cope and 15 - 16 year old Lyanna Stark dying in childbed after being impregnated by a man years older than her with dead roses in her hand? Daenerys could have unfortunately been written a similar fate.

Is it the fact that Rhaegar is the perfect white handsome prince that justifies his repulsive fictional actions?

So I say again we all have the cognitive abilities to understand that Daenerys at 13/14 is a grooming victim and a childbride but for some reason that goes out the window for Lyanna Stark being signaled out by a grown man at 14, sexually groomed at 15 and dead by 16.

If you can understand why people don’t like Khal Drogo & Daenerys and you don’t like it yourself despite all the arguments you use for R&L applying to Khal Drogo & Daenerys stop being a hypocrite and stop trying to justify it.

My queers, we really need to put the "no men" thing away. Men are not inherently bad. There are queer men. There are questioning men. There's men that are just plain cool. Denying these men a space at our table is not helping - except the TERFs. I just came off the back of reading a transphobe gleeful rant about the need to have pride without men - They of course mean me. This kind of stuff is damaging to me and I really need us all to take a step back and maybe kill this "men dni, men not allowed" stuff. What you mean is "no men who are going to do mean stuff to me." And frankly those men won't give a shit about that kind of boundary.

But I promise you there's a fleet of good honest men who will see that and be sad they're not allowed in your version of queer spaces.

PATRIARCHY is what you hate. Dni Patriarchs.

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I think some people forget that some literature and some media is meant to be deeply uncomfortable and unsettling. It's meant to make you have a very visceral reaction to it. If you genuinely can't handle these stories then you are under no obligation to consume them but acting as if they have no purpose or as if people don't have a right to tell these stories, stories that often relate to the darkest or most disturbing parts of life, then you should do some introspection.

I was feeling sad. So of course I made myself sadder by making this. Enjoy(?).

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