I Feel The Same Way. Poor Kid Spent His Whole Childhood Excluded By Neytiri /his Own Biology So It's
I feel the same way. Poor kid spent his whole childhood excluded by neytiri /his own biology so it's fitting in a twisted way that a lot of the fans exclude him too.
But I never say anything 'cause at the end of the day the artist can do what they want with their art ya know 🤷‍♀️ it's just still sad to see and very telling about how a good chunk of the fans don't see him as important when James Cameron himself called him the "glue that holds the story together." I got a feeling the fan attitudes will change towards Spider after A3 but we'll just have to wait and see.
Me when seeing a wholesome art piece of the atwow kids nr 1382638237 but Spider is absent:

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That's why I'm also so annoyed they removed the scenes of Neytiri failing to ride an ilu and instead choosing to adapt her ikran riding skills to hunting fish instead. The fact that she's the only one who didn't learn "the way of water" shows a lot about her character, how she's stubborn and resistant to change, but can also adapt in her own way! Neytiri spent the whole movie stuck as either crying because something bad happened, scolding the kids, or rescuing the kids. She deserves to have her own character arc!! And it sucks so much that they laid the groundwork for two different arcs, 1. failing to learn the way of water and adapting differently and 2. being pushed to hurt an innocent person and grappling with her desire for revenge vs her big heart and moral compass, but then end up cutting them both out!
Out of all the characters, Neytiri is definitely the one who got pushed to the side the most, which sucks because she's literally the face of the franchise.
omgg please tell me that you’ve seen the extended atwow extended cuts?? they’re phenomenal and canon and i can’t be told otherwise.
The Parents from hell one had me on the edge of my seat I was so scared even though I know the outcome, well now we know that Neytiri was definitely going to kill, not even to bargain for Kiri but for revenge and that’s just ughhh i can’t wait to incorporate this in my fanfic
I gotta say, I do fundamentally disagree, at least about the parents one. It's not so much of a deleted scene as a full rewrite of the scene. If Neytiri's goal was to kill Spider and take revenge over saving Kiri, why did they do with the version where she lets him go immediately? I don't know, man, to me it seems like they filmed that and then decided it didn't work with the character or for what they had planned. It definitely makes sense to me that they chose not to go with that version. Even the name, "The Parents From Hell," it makes it seem like it's a dark alternate universe.
But yes, scenes that were missing and not included I am all for thinking of as canon! But this is a full rewrite. It's not canon, because it's not what happened in the final version. I think the reason they chose to change it is more telling than the fact that it was filmed in the first place.
But of course, I am mad it exists. I wish they never released it. I don't like what they seem to think of Neytiri's character. I don't like the framing of her as less sympathetic than Quartich (even though a lot of idiots still took it that way which is still on the writing team as well), but I'm glad they understood they had to change the scene. I'm trying to withhold judgement until I see the full arc they intend for her, but as of now I'm not very pleased. She should be the heart of this series if it is to stay it's course as a true love letter to indigenous communities and what has happened to them. I hope they don't forget that.
Do you have a chapter snippet??

Hey guys, the last two weeks have been really busy for me, so chapter 19 is going to be late. Thank you for your patience and in the mean time, here's a snippet!
Wainfleet hopped off his bed and bounced over to Spider with a big stupid grin on his face. For a moment, Quaritch looked like he was going to say no, but then he heaved a sigh and waved for them to leave. Spider followed Wainfleet out of the room and down the hall, following an arrow that pointed them in the direction of the restroom.
“Maverick’s on the way to making a full recovery, by the way.” Wainfleet said cheerily.
Spider started walking towards the bathroom faster. The last thing he wanted was to put up with small talk from Mr. Clean’s evil twin. “Right… um, who’s Maverick again?”
Wainfleet looked slightly offended. “My dog. You hurt him the night you tried to run away, remember?”
“Oh,” Spider cringed at the memory of snapping jaws and razor sharp fangs. Privately, he wished the dog wasn’t going to make a full recovery. “Look, man, I’m really sorry, I—”
“Don’t look so nervous, kid, I ain’t mad at ya!” Chuckled Wainfleet as he patted him on the back. His big, thick fingers probed uncomfortably over his half-healed lashes. “Besides, you’ve already paid your dues for it, haven’t you?”
Spider shrugged his hand off and doubled his pace towards the bathroom. Why did the damn thing have to be so far away? “Yeah, I guess I have.”
If Wainfleet picked up on the signals that he didn’t want to talk, he must’ve ignored them, because he easily caught up with Spider and continued, “all water under the bridge! By the way, you cost me a lot of money when you ran off. I really believed you when you said you weren’t gonna make a run for it. We had a hell of a time placing bets on you! Ha!”
“Well, I’m glad somebody’s having fun here.” Spider hissed between his clenched teeth.
Wainfleet stopped in his tracks as it finally seemed to dawn on him that Spider wasn’t enjoying their conversation. “Wait, c’mon, kid, I didn’t mean it like that.”
At long last, Spider finally reached the bathroom. He grabbed the door handle, but before he could yank it open and escape Wainfleet’s presence, a big, pale hand slammed it shut. Spider yanked on the door handle, but it was in vain. Wainfleet was just too strong.
“Dude, I’m gonna shit my pants. Let me go already.”
“Just wait a minute, okay?” Wainfleet pleaded.
Spider heaved a long, dramatic sigh before releasing the door handle and turning to face him.
“Look, Miles, I know things have been… hard for you here.”
Spider scoffed.
“But I promise, this really is for the best. I know your dad was pretty harsh on you the other night, but he only does it because he’s scared for you. I’m not supposed to tell you this, but…” Wainfleet glanced around to check if anyone was listening and lowered his voice. “Ardmore didn’t really want him to get you back, especially after the whole fiasco with the court case and him going to prison. Your dad is working really hard to convince her that you’ll be an asset to the RDA, and every time you run off or disobey an order, it gets harder and harder for him to do that.”
“And what happens if he can’t convince her?”
Wainfleet grimaced and poked a finger into Spider’s chest just like Quaritch had done earlier. “Your dad wasn’t just saying all that to be mean. He really is scared for you, so if you don’t listen to him, he has to punish you to keep you in line. Trust me, it hurts him just as much as it hurts you, but he doesn’t have a choice. He’d rather do that to you than let you run wild and end up with the labcoats. So, please, don’t give him a reason to punish you, okay?”
“Okay, I won’t try to run off again.” Spider nodded in agreement while internally his head was reeling with the confirmation that he actually could get dissected or something. As far as he was concerned, Wainfleet had only convinced him even more that he needed to escape.
There are two wolves inside of me
One wants to keep writing my fic where Quaritch is an irredeemable villain and monster of a father who Spider has to escape from and afterwards he has to relearn what a healthy, positive family relationship is
One wants to start a fic where Quaritch realizes the error of his ways and finally does the right thing for Spider's sake and they get to rebuild their father/son relationship in a healthy, positive way
In all seriousness, I do have a new fic idea that's been bugging me for awhile, and Blood Is Thicker Than Water has been feeling a little stale to me lately. Part of me is tempted to take a hiatus from BITTW and work on this new fic, but then part of me also worries if I take a break I won't ever finish it. Maybe I could try to balance and do one chapter of each a month? idk. A lot of my lovely mutuals are also fanfic authors, so do y'all got any advice for me?
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Ha ha I would love to, but I'm gonna wait until I get to a stopping point with Blood Is Thicker Than Water!!
What is your New Fic Eywa Blessing,Eywa Curse about?
I'm so glad you asked!
Eywa's Blessing, Eywa's Curse would be inspired by those leaked scripts and concept arts that show Spider breathing the Pandoran air and getting a kuru, and it would focus a lot on his relationship with Quaritch but in a much more positive way than Blood Is Thicker Than Water.
I don't have the plot all hammered out yet, cause I'm not gonna start working on it until I get to a stopping point with BITTW, but the basic plot would be that Spider's mask gets broken in a conflict with the RDA and Kiri somehow saves his life by mutating him. Unfortunately, Spider is captured by the RDA, who are very interested to figure out how Spider is breathing the Pandoran air and if they can replicate this in other humans. Ardmore orders Spider to be handed over to the sci-ops folks and gives them free reign to do whatever they want to Spider in order to figure out what happened to him. Quaritch is forced to choose between staying loyal to the RDA and potentially ensuring a future for humanity on Pandora, or being a good father and saving Spider from the sci-ops experimentation.