I See A Lot Of Posts On Social Media That The Council Should Have Trusted Ahsoka, The Council Should

I see a lot of posts on social media that the council should have trusted Ahsoka, the council should have told the GAR to fuck off, the council shouldn't have surrendered on of their own it proved them corrupt--

Y'all, doesn't that scream corruption? And not the classic jedi criticism of being the Senate's lapdogs, but one that screams that the jedi aren't trustworthy, that they would always close ranks no matter what, that they'll protect justice and peace until one of their own is in trouble.

Idgaf if the jedi is against punishment or revenge or execution, the fact is that when there is collateral, if non jedi are hurt, they should lose all rights to keep it within the Order or bury it so it doesn't reach the public. If the jedi are okay with plain house arrest and rehabilitation for a terrorist or a traitor that's great, but to deny those who don't hold the same ideals of justice but were hurt by their actions just the same, who may have lose their daugher, son, father, mother, lover, etc. is deplorable.

Sure, revenge is not the jedi way, but the jedi serve the people. The jedi should not abandon their duty just because it is inconvenient. Even if admitting a jedi could commit such act would damage their image, playing favorites is betraying their ideals.

The jedi is one of my favorite factions and while they're not perfect, they didn't do anything wrong in The Wrong Jedi arc.

Preach!

I so agree! So disappointed that western media is incapable of following the source material as well as putting down viable careers for women in the past. Like taking the vow of chastity and becoming a nun is a shows dedication and sacrifice, It's so badass and inspiring why did they feel like it was okay to replace her??

Another instance would be the webtoon Go Away Romeo. It's the same premise but set as a sequel of sorts, and Rosaline birthed Romeo's kid. It's such waste, too, cause the aet is gorgeous and a sequel centered around Rosaline is really interesting. But the fandom! Oh my goodness, the double standard of the commenters is something else. Really hate how the main FL would be praised for breaking gender norms while any female side character would be mocked and demonized for it.

Is it just me, or does "modern retellings" often end up with misogynistic vibes or very juvenile a lot of times? A young woman who is uninterested with the man, who already have another path in life line up is turn into the "good girl" and loves the man and whose whole life revolves around him. A young girl who falls into the typical shallow teen love is turned into the homewreaking vixen who pulles the poor naive man (or partner in crime) who the Good Girl has to overcome. It's focused around who is the victim v. oppresser even when it's not there.

The existence of this Rosaline movie makes me so MAD, because SHE WAS NEVER IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH ROMEO. SHE TOOK A VOW OF CHASTITY, AND SAID THAT SHE WAS JUST GONNA NOT BE IN LOVE.

SHE. REJECTED. HIM.

SHE WAS NEVER INTERESTED IN BEING WITH HIM AT ALL.

And then they just…make a whole movie from her supposed perspective (which is loosely based on a book which…hoo boy we’ll get to that in a second), where the premise is that she’s jealous and wants to break him and Juliet up? That she’s so in love that she has to win him over again? (Also, how do they justify her knowing that they’re together? The entire point is that no one knows Romeo and Juliet are in love?? I know this is an adaptation, but Jesus Christ.)

WHY DID YOU PICK THIS CHARACTER. TO HAVE THIS STORY WITH. THE WHOLE POINT OF HER CHARACTER IS THAT SHE CHOOSES NOT TO BE WITH HIM. THAT’S WHAT OPENS THE DOOR TO HIM MEETING JULIET. IF ROSALINE IS DEEPLY INTO ROMEO, THE ENTIRE PLAY DOESN’T WORK.

Are we saying that she was just “““playing hard to get”””? That she was toying with his heart for fun? That when she told him no, she really meant “yes”?? I THOUGHT WE LEFT THAT BEHIND OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST DECADE, I THOUGHT WE DECIDED THAT WAS BAD???!!?

Don’t even get me started on the book this is based on, where that general premise is that Rosaline is just an Innocent Average Girl, and her cousin who is Beautiful™ and vOLaTiLeLY uNsTAbLe and cRaZy comes and “takes” her poor unsuspecting boyfriend who is completely blameless for his own terrible behavior away from her while being called a “slut” the whole time. (I doubt much of this carried over into the actual movie, because that’s being billed as an ironic rom-com, and I highly doubt ANYONE would try to make that genre work while keeping this premise 100% intact.)

WHY WOULD YOU EXPAND THIS CHARACTER LIKE THIS. WHY. WE STUDY THIS PLAY IN SCHOOL AS AN EXAMPLE OF LITERARY STRUCTURE AND POETIC LANGUAGE AND FORESHADOWING AND HOW TO WRITE A TRAGIC NARRATIVE AND FOR WHAT. FOR PEOPLE TO NOT TAKE AWAY ANY OF THE INTENDED MEANING FROM THIS PLAY???!?!?!? I AM SCREAMING SO HARD I WILL BREAK THE EARTH’S CRUST UNTIL I AM SUBSUMED INTO HELL.

If you’re going to adapt something, you’ve gotta make it clear that you have some significant understanding of the original work. Retellings are fine! They can even have different functions or deconstruct tropes or be unexpectedly edgy! But it’s 1000% obvious when you don’t have any knowledge or engagement with the source material, and that is a problem. It’s ignorant, it’s lazy, and everyone involved deserves better.

Broke: Individual Jedi were good people with good intentions, but the Jedi Order as an institution was flawed and needed to be reformed.

Woke: The Jedi Order as an institution is completely correct in all of its teachings about everything and following the Jedi's teachings about selflessness and compassion are what allow people of the galaxy to achieve balance and peace, but these teachings are an ideal to live up to and they assert that everyone has the capacity for darkness within them anyway, so sometimes individual Jedi will make mistakes or struggle with fear and pain and selfishness as they strive towards being their best selves the way their culture trains them to do.

by emwattnot

In light of the recent lore breaking in the Acolyte, in addition to the braindead characterization as well as the nonsensical plot, false advertizing (where's the mystery thriller factor Headland??) AND filler episodes, I have decided that this is all just a figment of my imagination. Acolyte is not canon. It is, at best, a fan's very expensive yet poorly written fanfic that they should not have charged money for. I feel sorry for all the actors in this, especially Squid Game (who was really excited to be part of Star Wars) and the 2 kids that played young Mae and Osha. Hopefully, the more rabid fans won't come after them, and everyone would forget they were part of this shitshow in the next few years.

Btw, to the corpo bootlicker that told me to that real fan would stick around to the end and that I'm "arguing with bad faith" : it is not the audiences job to give countless chances to the show. It is the producers job to catch and keep the audiences attention. Headcanons are fun and all but are not a suitable subitution. If they do a shit job, no one should feel obligated to stick around til the end. When i watch anime, I don't stick around in hopes that it'll get better or that the plot would finally make sense. No, I give it 2 episodes before moving on.

I think the one of the dumbest pro Jedi arguments I have seen is that Jedi are not against romance or other types bonds based on love, they are against attachment. If that was the case then why are Jedi not allowed to marry? Why are Jedi not allowed know their biological families? Why do Jedi need to take babies? Also no, I don’t see Jedi taking babies from families as adoption, that is also stupid too. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jedi Knights put pressure on parents to give up their babies by claiming the baby will have a better life. Also I don’t think being critical of certain Jedi Practices means I wanted them to all die like they did or that they are worse than the Sith.