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Disastrousfeline - Circuitposter Extraordinaire

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Bird Poll Explanation & Follow Up

So! This will be a long post, but I promise its worth it.

You know that whole "Kingdom Phylum Class Order Family Genus Species" thing you (probably) learned in school?

That system we use to classify living things (aka organisms)?

Weeeeeell.. that system was made by a guy who didn't know about evolution. Or prehistoric life.

Buuuut now we do. And turns out, most things? Don't really fit into the categories we made up based only on the living things we have today.

What this means is, while today we can be pretty sure when something is a bird - does it have feathers? is it warm blooded? - that system doesn't really work when we look at extinct life forms. These features that make a bird, a bird, evolved in a messy, progressive way over time.

All we can say, with certainty, is that living birds are birds, and that their closest relatives - crocodilians - are not birds, because we defined birds to exclude crocodilians, and vice versa.

Today, scientists group organisms based on their evolutionary relationships, rather than traits or that hierarchy (KPCORFGS) that you learned in school. In fact, Kingdom phylum etc. is quite out of date! We still use the terms so that people have some point of familiarity, but ultimately, we just group things based on their ancestral ties - what is related to what.

As such, all animals in the fossil record that we find that are closer to living birds, than to living crocodilians, are on the Bird Evolutionary Line. They are in a group we call "Pan-Aves" (Total-Birds) - everything that is closer to being a bird than it is to being any other living thing.

This group consists of a lot of different things:

A picture of a family tree showing all of the relatives of birds from the past, juxtaposed against their closest living relatives, the crocodilians. Crocodilians branch off first, leaving just the group of birds and everything closer to them than to crocodilians - Avemetatarsalia. Next, Aphanosaurs branch off - this is a group of very superficially lizard-like animals. Then, Pterosaurs branch off - these are things like Pteranodon and Pterodactylus. Next, Lagerpetids branch of - this is actually out of date, we think that Lagerpetids are closer to pterosaurs than to dinosaurs - and these are small bipedal reptiles that hopped around a lot. Next branches off Marasuchus, which looks like a slender bipedal fluffy animal. Then, silesaurids branch off - which may or may not be actual dinosaurs - which are four legged slender fluffy reptiles with long necks and their limbs under their bodies. The next group is Dinosaurs. Dinosaurs then divide into two groups, Ornithischians - which includes Stegosaurus and Triceratops - and Saurischians. Saurischians consist of Sauropodomorphs, all the long-necked dinosaurs, and Theropods, which includes birds.

including pterosaurs and everything we've ever called a dinosaur, and also - of course - all living birds.

In fact, Dinosaurs are defined as the most recent ancestor the first two dinosaurs named - Iguanodon and Megalosaurus - had, and all of that ancestor's descendants. This means every bird is a living dinosaur, because they all descend from that ancestor!

So, every member of the Panaves group is, technically, a bird - because it is closer to being a bird than it is to being literally anything else. However, it feels weird to call this thing:

an image of Teleocrater, a quadrupedal reptile with a slightly upright stance. It looks superficially like a lizard, but it isn't closely related to them at all - in fact, it's closer to birds than anything else! It has a small head, a long neck and long tail, and an elongated torso. It has claws on all of its toes, but its hands only have claws on the first three fingers each. This was drawn by Neil Pezzoni, CC BY 4.0

a bird. It is, or at least that's the thing its closest to today, but.... you wouldn't call it that if you saw it.

So, at any point between the base of the bird family tree, and the top of it - ie, all living birds - you can start calling these animals "true birds". The question is when you do.

Is the first bird the first animal with feathers? Well, we've seen modern type feathers in Pterosaurs, those cousins of dinosaurs that people keep thinking are dinosaurs for some reason:

Animal A from the original poll, Sordes the Pterosaur. This is a small winged reptile with a small pointed head, a short torsoe, and a long tail. The tail ends in a diamond shape for display. The wings are made of membrane stretched across the fingers and linking the arms down to the legs. The animal is in flight and has its wings open wide. It is grey in color, with an orange head and orange and black stripes on its tail. It also has spots on its underwings. Its teeth are long and pointed, and would interlock if the animal had its mouth closed.

This is Sordes, aka Animal A, an early kind of pterosaur. We see simple feathers (single strands of fluff) on lots of different pterosaurs, but recently we found full fledged feathers - the thing you think of when you hear the word - on one species of pterosaur, Tupandactylus. So, are pterosaurs birds?

Well, I mean, they were flying animals. But they didn't fly like birds. Their method of flight, which is the most unique method of flight in the world, evolved later. Pterosaurs simply stretched a membrane of skin across their fingers and to their legs, creating lift from that structure. So calling them birds is both misleading - birds did not evolve directly from them! - and unfair, because they're an interesting and unique group of flying animals in their own right.

You might say - let's go to where warm bloodedness evolved, then - but that's a mess too! We don't really know when. We do know, however, that pterosaurs *and* dinosaurs were warm blooded - if not outright, then close enough for government work.

Okay then - birds have hollow bones. So do pterosaurs! And so do some, but not all, dinosaurs. So that's not going to work.

In fact, there is no clear point at which to say something is a bird, a proper modern bird.

Is it when dinosaurs diverged from pterosaurs? The line that includes birds from this group?

Animal B from the original poll. It is a quadrupedal animal standing on its hind legs, with a very long neck, torso, and tail. It has a small head, with wattles coming off of its neck. It is covered in fluffy feathers. It looks very much like a very tall lizard, with its limbs directly under its body, but a floofy one. It is navy blue in color, with a yellow head. It was drawn by Jack Wood.

This is Silesaurus, aka Animal B, an early dinosaur relative (or possibly a dinosaur, long story). It has its limbs mostly under its body, like dinosaurs, and feathers all over its form. But it really doesn't have much more in common with birds than that.

So is it Dinosaurs? Are all dinosaurs birds? This is when the limbs go directly underneath the body - the most distinct difference between dinosaurs and other reptiles.

Animal C from the original poll, Kulindadromeus by Scott Reid. It is a small, bipedal animal, covered in fluffy feathers except on its lower limbs and tail. It has a small head with a little beak. The tail has alternating overlapping scales on top, with interlocking scales on the underside. The scales are all brown. The feathers are mostly brown, with some blue display feathers coming off of the legs. Its back and head are covered in red feathers. It is very cute.

This is Kulindadromeus, aka Animal C, and while it is quite bird like, it is from that other side of the dinosaur group - Ornithischians, not Saurischians. In fact, Ornithischians don't have hollow bones like birds! We think hollow bones may have evolved multiple times. Plus, if Kulinda's a bird, so are Stegosaurus and Triceratops. Things most of y'all probably wouldn't want to call birds.

So is it Saurischians? The side with birds? This side has most members with hollow bones (the earliest Saurischians don't), and bird-like lungs.

Animal D from the poll, Thecodontosaurus by Ripley Cook. It is a small, bipedal dinosaur covered in floof except on its lower limbs and head. It has a small, ovular head. It has floofy feathers on its arms, but distinct hands. It has a long head, long limbs, and a long tail. The body is mostly dark red with some black spots, and orange feathers on the tail. It has brown feathers on the wings and legs, and lighter brown feathers on the neck. Its head has black, orange, and white stripes. Its hands and legs are grey and scaly.

This is Thecodontosaurus, aka Animal D, a "Prosauropod" - ancestor to those huge long necked dinosaurs like "Brontosaurus". It is more birdie than Kulindadromeus, but... not in ways we can really see. Plus, do you really want to call this:

A picture of Brachiosaurus, a long-necked dinosaur that was bigger than most buildings. It has four legs, a short tail, a very long neck, and a small head. The body is mostly tannish-brown, with yellow circle spots on the neck. The head has a red and yellow crest. It was drawn by Nobu Tamura, CC BY-SA 4.0

A bird? I mean, it technically is, but is that where we're drawing the line?

Okay, let's jump forward a bit. When do dinosaurs evolve feathers on the arm like bird wings? For that, we have to go far down the Theropod side of the tree - literally pass by famous things like Allosaurus and Tyrannosaurus - and get to Maniraptoriformes, like the "ostrich dinosaurs":

An image of Rativates, aka Animal E, a very birdlike dinosaur, by Jack Wood. It is a large animal, sitting in a forest. It is tan and brown in color, with a very long tail and a long neck. It has a small head. The tail is brown, the body is tan, and it has a white stripe at the base of its neck. The neck is brown, ending in a small tan head with a white ruff of feathers at the back of the head. Its arms are wing-like, with lots of complex feathers coming off of the arms. The feathers are brown and dark brown and tan. It has two legs, which are covered in grey scales.

Remember those Gallimimus that Alan Grant had to run from in Jurassic Park? The flocking this way guys? Yeah, they looked more like this (the image above is of Rativates, a close cousin, aka Animal E). This is where we see feathered arms that look like wings. They weren't proper wings yet - not quite big enough, not quite organized the same way - but unless you're physically lifting up the arm and looking at it close up, you really can't tell.

This is where most of y'all, just on sight, call the animals birds! But we aren't fully done with the evolutionary story yet! Wings originally evolved in dinosaurs for display - to look fancy to other dinosaurs!

Animal F, Anzu, by Sam Stanton. This is an animal that can be roughly described as a "chickenparrot". It has a stout body, and a short tail. It looks very much like a modern bird. It is covered in feathers all over its body. The feathers are mostly black. Its lower legs are orange and scaly. It has yellow feathers on its neck, which become red around the head. It has a huge crest on its head like a cassowary, which is black and white striped. It is holding its black wings out to see its orange fingers on which the feathers are attached. It is lifting up its legs to kick something you can't see. The feathers on the end of the tail form a shaggy fan.

In fact, even at the next step - Pennaraptorans, shown here by Animal F, Anzu - while the wings are closer to what we'd see in modern birds, they're still not quite big enough. We might get gliding, or at least some lift in movement, in the smallest members - but not much more.

Current evidence points to bird-type flight evolving in the next group, Paraves - we have evidence of flight in raptor dinosaurs like Microraptor - which look something like this:

Animal G, Deinonychus, by Ripley Cook. This is a very birdie dinosaur with a long tail and huge wings. It is covered in feathers on most of its body, except the end of its snout and legs. The scales on these parts are yellow. It has two main claws on its feet, with a bigger sickle claw on each one. The body is colored much like a living falcon or hawk - it is grey and brown, with spotting all over. The wings have black and white stripes on them, and claws peaking out from the wings. It is very fluffy.

This is animal G, Deinonychus, a close cousin of Velociraptor. While these larger members of the group couldn't fly, their smaller relatives probably could! At this point, we see consistently large, bird-like wings, very similar to modern forms - huge wings that can generate lift.

However, not all living birds can fly - quite a lot can't. Is that really where we want to say they're birds?

Animal H, Archaeopteryx, by Scott Reid (originally Wellnhoferia, but that might not be a distinct thing from Archaeopteryx). It is a small bipedal dinosaur with a long tail and feathers all over its body except on the tip of its snout. It is black all over. It has a large tail fan, and large wings. It has white patches over its eyes and a beige snout. Claws are coming off its wings and feet, including sickle claws like in raptors.

This is animal H, Archaeopteryx. It was the first feathered dinosaur ever described, commonly called the "missing link" between reptiles and birds, and often is named the first bird. However, this group - Avialae - doesn't have any new particularly birdie features. Archaeopteryx and co have slightly smaller heads than Velociraptor and co did. That's about it. While we used to start calling animals birds here, it is becoming more and more arbitrary the more we learn about the evolutionary history of birds. There's nothing really more birdie about this than Microraptor. What's the next thing that isn't arbitrary?

An image of Lectavis, aka Animal I, by Tiny Longwing (CC BY-SA 4.0). This is a small, bipedal dinosaur with long thin scally legs and feathers over the rest of its body. It has a short tail, and large wings, and claws coming off of the wings. Its head is small, with big eyes, and small pointed teeth coming out of the jaws. Its feathers are black and white, with the wings mainly black in color. the underside of the animal is mostly white, with some orange by the legs. Its head is white, with a black stripe across the eye, and yellow patches on the cheeks. it is eating a hermit crab, and standing on a patch of ground in the swamp.

At Pygostylia, the long bony tail of other dinosaurs is finally shortened into the tiny fused structure we see in modern birds! This is Lectavis, an "opposite bird" - a group of dinosaurs that oriented their wings in the exact opposite way as modern birds. These animals are virtually indistinguishable from modern birds... except for one nasty detail: they still have teeth.

In fact, teeth persist in dinosaurs right until modern birds finally appear. The thing that distinguishes the group of Crown Birds - the group that contains all living birds and things that descended from their most recent common ancestor and nothing else, called Neornithes - from their closest relatives is not having teeth.

Animal J, Vegavis, by Jack Wood. It is a duck-like bird with a long neck, a stout body, and long legs. In fact, the legs are longer than that of living ducks. It has orange scales on its feet and around its eyes, and a duck-like black bill. Its body has white feathers on the neck and underbelly, with brown feathers everywhere else. It is lifting one of its legs up like a flamingo.

This is Vegavis, one of the first known Crown-Birds (Neornitheans). It is actually closer to ducks than it is to other birds! It's in the duck group! And it, like all living birds, does not have proper teeth - just a beak (beaks and teeth are not exclusive, many species have both - just not living birds).

So, we *have* to call Vegavis a bird, because it's in that Neornithes group. We *can* call Aphanosaurs birds, because they're closer to birds than anything else. But whether or not you call that or anything else in between a bird? It's really up to you. There is no wrong answer, because, in the end - all of these are steps on the way to bird, while still being their own full-fledged creatures. It's not like Microraptor and co were trying to be birds - they were just trying to survive. And to survive, they became more birdie.

Remember, there's no right *or* wrong answer! Follow your dreams! Vote for your choice!

Okay, animal H is a pretty wrong answer, IMO, it's just letting old white men of the past define what a bird is for us, but that's all the direction I'm giving y'all.

Please Please Please reblog this! I want it to escape Palaeoblr, both so that we can compare both data sets - before you got this info, and after - and also so that everyone who wanted to see the explanation can see it!!! Boost!! Boooost!!!

sources for everything are just, I'm a paleontologist. that's the source. but I can provide proper papers on request.